It'd be huge if we got either Garnett or Diamond, let alone both. Please God, make this happen.
Jordan Diamond drops OSU
A 5* OL, what do we need 2 more for?
...where Hoke and Borges unveiled the plans for the "Super Awesome Offensive Line". The point is key.
...300 pound tight ends and slot receivers.
is 300% more awesome.
Probably 200% more awesome, but I'm with you.
awesomeness behaves in a non-linear fashion
But I love a weak link on an offensive line. Someone to get beat on every play.
How else are we going to see Denard/Devin scramble? I'm with ya man.
Because we need 5 offensive lineman every offensive snap of the game. If we get more... put him at fullback as a lead blocker.
To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of their fans.
Best. Reply. Ever.
I would like to have a plethora of 5* OL who will treat Buckeye DL and LBs like pinatas.
Hey, why couldn't it happen? Tigers got Fielder, so anything is plausible.
YES, we CAN get both,... btw, anyone check DGB recently to see if he hasn't included us? (where is Shock we need a DGB update!)
Michigan gets Diamond and Garnett, Dantonio gets a player named Pyrite, that's the way of the world.
+1 for pyrite.
Keep the momentum rolling our way for these final spots -- that's great news!
this makes me very happy. if we cannot have him, at least ohio can't.
Apparently you didn't read the thread. OSU doesn't want him after his visit. They're getting Dodson. Even though Dodson has said he's most likely going out of state.
Unfortunately we see many similar posts on here after targets go elsewhere.
Haha, yeah we all play that game. But I shall still enjoy pointing out the ridiculous in this case.
You can't fire me. I quit!
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I truly appreciate the Post and Posbang. When I saw that I immediately thought "What !?! How great is that Spermin Meyer's not getting his coffee today! ;-)
The thread title made my stomach sink for half a second because I didn't read "drops".
If you go to 11w, it seems like OSU doesnt want him. They do say something about it would take a large price. Was that even me? They need tackles.
The original article indicated OSU hadn't talked to Diamond since his visit. Probably confident in Dodson, or there was something about him they didn't like.
Thanks, I thought at first they were implying something else. I hope Dodson goes to Wisky.
or, far more likely, he wasnt showing interest.
OSU knows that Diamond wasn't going to pick them and was likely headed to Michigan. Rather than lose a recruiting battle to Michigan, they just basically forfeited instead.
For better or worse, Meyer is a relentless recruiter. I can assure you that the fear of losing a recruiting game with Michigan would not deter him from going after a recruit. Heck, he had/has no problem trying to go after Kalis and Dymonte - and they are about as solid to Michigan as it gets.
but you can't make him answer the phone.
OSU reacts that way about every recruit OSU doesn't get
Yeah, the fanbase for sure. But, I thought it was one fo 11w's writers or contributors. That is kind of irresponsible. Ace or TomVH, when here, would never write that about a recruit.
Sounds like they think Diamond wants money. There was a thread on the 247 boards about it. Almost guaranteed that it's complete bullshit.
Hypothetical question: Would we be able to take Garnett, Diamond and Kozan should they all commit?
It is unlikely that we get them all, but we would accept commitments from them all if they wanted to join the squad.
Yes, especially with Stacey no longer in the fold. Kozan can play center, which is where Stacey would play.
If Hoke and company wanted to take them all....
Yeah, and a follow-up question:
For OL more than other positions, isn't there more of an incentive for solid recruits to join one another in terms of looking good for future NFL prospects, and be part of a stellar unit, rather than being the big fish in a little pond (ie the STAR RB or WR)?
If that's the case, shouldn't the signing of one star recruit on OL catalyze the signing of others?
And shouldn't there be an incentive for a recruit to, once committed to a program, sell the program to other OL prospects MORESO than other positions?
And if that's the case, shouldn't there be motivation for OL prospects to commit ASAP so they can get on with recruiting OTHER top OL to their program, and thus improve their OWN prospects of being part of a stellar OL unit, and hence improve their future NFL incomes?
Or am I missing something?
Apparently something soured OSU on Diamond. I hope that after Dodson flips to OSU it doesn't matter who dumped who, because we've moved on. OSU and UofM clearly are head and shoulders above the rest of the B1G in recruiting this year, and I like it that way.
Honest question, how confident are you that Dodson will flip to OSU?
Everything I have read and been told is that it is more 50/50 than an OSU lock.
but I think Dodson winds up at Ohio State. Much better chance than 50/50, IMO. I can't remember which, but Scout's or Rivals' experts are all predicting he goes to OSU, as is 11W's version of Ace.
Badger fans are getting very nervous about possibly losing Dodson to OSU. They already lost JJ Denman to Rutgers today. They're mad because Coach Brett said he'd have his new coaches in place by now and they're not. The old coaches were the contacts to these O linemen.
UM fans (hell, myself included) are not above this spin. But do you really think that's the case? OSU wanted him, wanted him, wanted him, wanted him, wanted him [2 weeks pre-signing day], wanted him, wanted him, wanted him, [one week pre-signing day] I HAVE SOURED ON YOU! ?
More likely they realized that they didn't have a very good chance with him, and decided to focus their efforts on Dodson.
I usually hate when fellow OSU fans play the "OH WE DIDN'T WANT HIM ANYWAY" game, but this is a case where the OSU fanbase wanted him, but the coaching staff didn't. There has been zero contact between OSU and Diamond since his official visit more than a month ago. It's possible that it was a mutual decision, but the recruitment certainly ceased a while ago. So while us fans may have been saying we have wanted him along - it's certainly not what the OSU program was thinking.
I promise, this is the first and last time I play the "We didn't want him anyway" card.
Does Urban notify you each time he contacts a recruit?
Ohio soured on Diamond?
He visited Columbus, you know....
(below is the South Campus Gateway in Columbus...beautiful, isn't it? Who could resist relocating to such an attractive community?)
Those buildings got torn down in the 90s.
Here's a picture of the Gateway as it looks today:
That gave me a chuckle, thanks.
Bill Greene of Scout.com says that OSU has not contacted Diamond since his last official visit (12/09/11). I'm in the camp that thinks Urban decided to shift his focus to flipping the in-state Dodson rather than a fickled Diamond. While I think Urban would love to have Diamond as well, he knows that the class is nearly full and he has to start being more selective. Personally I would like to see him cap off the class with Armani Reeves, Kyle Dodson and Stefon Diggs.
then youre in the minority of osu fans. most have been salivating over diamond for months. far more likely urban saw the writing on the wall and stopped recruiting him cause he knew there was no chance and no interest from him...given your needs on the o-line. but keep telling yourselves osu didnt end up wanting him if it makes you feel better.
Srsly, Brah. That name is funny. That said, take a look at that picture...do you seriously think that looks better? Jeebus.
He started his posting career here as @TrustsTressel.
Hoping that Blue remembers every kiss begins with Kay. Or we can just go to Jared. I want some jewelry-named recruits
Isn't OSU low on spots? Maybe they are confident in Reeves or Dodson for their last spot.
Very confident on Dodson (as in, near certainty based on what insiders are saying), but Reeves is still very much up in the air. No feel on him either way - as close to 50/50 as it gets.
In terms of spots, OSU still has plenty due to attrition (already announced publicly, and future transfers that haven't been made public yet). They will accept as many as want to come. If I had to guess, I would say 4 more players - making it a class total of 26 once you figure in Roger Lewis going the JUCO route.
Hopefully Diamond goes Blue. (Or is it the Blue Hope Diamond?)
Wouldn't mind seeing Dodgson follow Diamond's lead and also drop OSU!
What are the chances that he ends up at msu?
Diamond showed little love for OSU, and the same in return. My guess is Urban realized they were longshots for him, and continuing to pursue him was hurting their chances with Dodson.
The bucknuts are confident on Dodson, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Wisky.
Hope theres corroboration other than devidee's claim that osu cooled on Diamond...he was a notorious troll at EDSBS awhile back...not the most trustworthy source.
It seems like hoke and co. are building this team from the ground up starting with both sides of the line (offense and defense) which to me is smart football. If we get commits from diamond,garnett and kozan and filled the last spot wit armani I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I would be surprised, because we have 5 spots left.
any chance one of these OL can play DT?
Linemen. Especially this group. They are Michigan
men. Playing O line or D line at Michigan is an honor
I'd like to see a quote from Diamond himself on the situation. He is announcing after NSD so it would not make too much sense for OSU to drop him in hopes of gaining a more favorable position with another OL recruit. They could just wait till after NSD to see where Dodson goes and then decide to drop.
I saw it mentioned elsewhere that there is an article somewhere on the internets that he is telling the schools of his decision on 1-31, and announcing publicly on 2-3.
Hope we are now i the pole position. In any event, we will not be lining up against this guy in late November for the next 4-5 years.
This has probably been posted a dozen times, but Wiscy lost Denman to Rutgers. Wonder how that plays into Diamond's decision (or Dodson's)
Someone is saying on bucknuts that an inside source said that Meyer quit recruiting him because he heard that Diamond is asking for money to play at their school. Hahaha they will go to any length to rationalize on why someone wont play there
Urban probably misunderstands what "you couldn't pay me enough to go to Ohio" means.
They certainly have set the bar on negotiating that amount...
thats tough for urban since im pretty sure osu boosters got slapped by the ncaa with a one-year probation from paying players, as has been par for the course for a decade. poor urbie :(
that if you go to OSU you get money, free tats, a Charger and cool loaners on occasion just for something different, and then there is the loose and free girls at the tat parlor as well.
So when the recruits find out OSU now has to look clean for a few years while everyone is watching, they are all let down and stuff.
If Diamond was really looking for the Pryor treatment, does anyone believe the seemingly minor, isolated instances or minor malfeasance did not manifest a recruiting advantage for Ohio State during the Tressel era?
All that semi-sarcastically said: Buckeye fans are saying we don't want him, he asked for money is a pretty hilarious concept.
I'm betting he ends up at Arkansas.
I think we will finish with the following recruits: Grant, Garnett, Reeves and some guy.
RURAL MEYER..that is all
247 reporting Chizik is visiting Diamond, so we'll see how this shakes out.
5* OLs eventually make 3*s RBs in to 5* performers.
Reject the Buckeye's. So, this is good news for Michigan.
Our O-line will be truly a immoveable object with the addition of all the studs Hoke and Co, are bringing in :-)
No it will be an unstoppable force
Well done Mr. Diamond, well done. You made the same good choice thousands of other fine young men made by saying NO to Ohio State.
Sure Urban soured on Diamond. Just like Hoke soured on Dunn and Dantonio soured on every 4 & 5* recruit in the nation.
Checking that 247 board makes you really appreciate the general quality of discussion on MGoBlog. The so-called Michigan fans on that site are as obnoxious as the Buckeye fans which is saying a lot.
screw o-lie-o we will take all of the manball lineman and then dominate the pathetic defence and cram it right up the gut of their defence.