Very glad to hear that. Horford, as shown during the MSU game, provides an excellent defensive presence along with solid zen-like leadership.
Jon Horford, who graduates this spring, confirms that he intends to come back for his final year of eligibility at Michigan.— Brendan F. Quinn (@BFQuinn) March 3, 2014
Jon Horford to return for 2014/2015 season
This isn't unexpected, but makes me happy all the same.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind snagging a Masters degree at UM for free, either.
Yellow ribbon program and post 9/11 GI Bill team up to form a wonderful thing in that regard.
Please be the start of everyone announcing they will return...
It will be strange if, atfer all the worrying about GRIII and McGary leaving early, that Nik swoops in and goes to the draft before both of them
this is my thought. though GRIII's play has picked up, and i think it could take off, we have a great run, and he'll be gone. if so, great for everyone.
nik might be in a spot where if he came back he'd just be opening himself up for nit picking. better to go too early than too late. i think he goes if he gets a 1st round promise, and that seems likely.
I love me some Nik, but who is he going to guard in the NBA?
Guy needs another year to shore up that D, ad a bit more bulk, then be NBA ready. JMO. Though being a late first round pick may put him on a contender now.
Tom Thibodeau hybrid zone principles has made it so defensive liabilities like Nik are no longer liabilities.
Does anyone know what the scholarship situation becomes if no players leave? Or 1, or 2, etc?
If Michigan is one (or more) scholarships short, what happens? Does someone get forcibly shunted to preferred walk-on status?
They would only be one over if everyone comes back and if Austin Hatch* is healthy enough to play. I'm not sure what they'd do if that happened, but Coach Beilein obviously believes it's not very likely.
*I love and admire the young man, but he has a long way to go to be able to play D1 basketball.
Michigan will get a medical waiver for Hatch and he won't thereby count against our scholarship limit. It will take another miracle for Austin to ever get Division I able---though if anyone can pull off another miracle, I suspect its Austin.
One of two things would have to happen:
1) Austin Hatch gets some other type of scholarship (a la Ben Cronin, where he gets to go to school, part of the team but he doesn't count)
or 2) Horford doesn't get a fifth year.
Since it seems Horford wants to come back, 1 seems more likely.
None of this matters because at least 1 of our players will go to the NBA. All 3 are not coming back.
Stauskas is almost a sure thing. He's a lottery pick.
GR3 and McGary who knows, but if either left, I certainly wouldn't be shocked.
It has been discussed, but going over the scholarship limit will not be a problem.
I wouldn't be shocked to see someone transfer a la Smotrycz. With the incoming freshman and those guys back, someone may decide that he'd rather go somewhere where he can play something other than garbage minutes.
What picks in the first round are considered lottery picks?
16 teams (8 from each conference) make the playoffs and if you don't, you're in the lottery for the top 3 picks - to discourage tanking.
1-14, all 14 teams that don't make the playoffs enter the ping pong ball lottery. Each with different percentages to get the highest pick based on final standings. Which is why there is so much tanking.
Really? I would say not at this point.
Stauskas is staying...
I don't think he's a lottery pick, but I might actually have to start watching the NBA if he fell to the Utah Jazz...
Anybody think a Bielfeldt transfer is likely?
This is CRITICAL for next year. With McGary's future uncertain we need to know that Horford will be back to provide a consistent presence in the middle. Bielfeldt will probably get more play, but he's woefully undersized for the center position. The only other option is incoming freshman Ricky Doyle, who will be forced to play if McGary leaves. The only other option I could see the coaches trying is to play Bielfeldt alongside Mark Donnal. On D they could switch roles with Donnal guarding the other team's center and on O they can let Bielfeldt set the perimeter screens while Donnal operates as the stretch four.
I think Donnal is going to surprise a lot of people. He is a good shooter, very smart on the court, and has strength to go along with a bit of a mean streak. I think he'll be next years' breakout player.
He can shoot outside or come inside with finesse or bang if he has to do so. I agree there is a very positive future for Donnal
becomes Horfeldt? or Bielford?
He adds some stability and senior leadership in the middle.
Thank you Jon!!!
I'm very happy about this, but was it really in doubt?
but there were talks by some people about not letting Horford take his 5th year at Michigan.
There were talks that Horford might not want to return, not that Michigan might not "let Horford take his 5th year". I still believe Horford has a very high ceiling and if it all clicks I could see him making a living playing basketball somewhere.
That's not as big of an accomplishment as you might think. I know a kid who could barely crack the Northwestern rotation as a senior who plays professionally in Scotland.
The wages obviously vary based on talent, but most D1 players could at least get a contract for a shitty team in Europe.
Graham Brown still plays professionally
We will need his experience and size next year in the paint. Donnal and Doyle will be new players and still learning. I'd be amazed if McGary doesn't come back. I'm really hoping everyone comes back with the goal of a 2nd Big Ten title and NC. Maybe I'm dreaming a bit. But, I'm not sure Stauskas or GRIII are ready for the NBA quite yet. At least, I don't see either has high to mid first round picks.
But given his age, and the injury this year, I would be surprised to see McGary return as long as he is healthy and can work out for the NBA clubs before the draft. He has enormous upside, and surely there is a team that would take a shot at a healthy McGary in the 11-24 draft pick range.
just yesterday. It occured to me that even though this is our second title in 3 years, only 3 players on this year's team had ever won a B1G title. That made me think of Jon being a 5th year senior and possibly not returning for that 5th year. I didn't think that he would leave, but it is good that he confirms it. Unless McGary returns, we will most definately need him. Even with Mitch, it would be nice to have Jon also.
Good veteran presence to go with Donnal and, hopefully, McGary.
Still not sure why people think Donnal is a 4? Seems perfect a the 5 spot as a PnR and PnP player and he isn't exactly capable of handling the ball and coming off of ball screens.
preferably a 4 who has size and can shoot. Donnal fits that mold for a big lineup.
Can you direct me to a link where JB stated he wants a bigger lineup?
is not exactly the same as Cronin. Technically we can not rule of the possibility of him returning to court at some capacity, and I hope that awarding him the medical scholarship does not take away this possibility, even it is very small at this point.
However, given the type of tragety he went through, I think that even NCAA will make some exception for him.
If Stauskas stays were to stay we would be so good next year...
Good to hear! I was starting to get concerned that he may be testing his draft chances.
This is excellent news, of course. Horford may average only about 15 minutes per game, but they are impactful minutes and the defensive presence cannot be understressed when he is out there. Like others said, having some veteran leadership on the squad never hurts either. Similar to the situation last season, leaders like Horford may not play the most minutes, but their presence helps the team play like a team.
Great news. This is like signing a top 50 player for 2014.
is not the equivalent of a top 50 player.
Hell yea he is. Who wouldn't want to prolong their time here based on how things have gone the last few years? It seems like Horford is enjoying the hell out his time here.
With all the player comments about JMo and Horford as seniors and winning for the seniors etc etc., I was starting to worry Horford had already been told a firm handshake was coming.
Good news. I doubt we have to worry about the scholarship issue. If I had to bet on one, and only one, NBA scenario it would be all three leaving. Next most likely IMO is GR3 and Stauskas leave with MM staying.
I'd be shocked if any permutation of 2 of them came back.
Having Horford back with Donnal (and Bielfeldt) and potentially McGary is great. It also helps afford a redshirt for Doyle which is nice.
If we keep just one of Stauskas or GRIII this team will be loaded with talent, expereince, and versatility. Assuming Stauskas is the one who leaves early, you are looking at this roster:
LeVert, Irvin, Walton (when they play Albrecht at the point)
GRIII, Irvin, Chatman (Irvin slides up to starter when GRIII inevitably ends up back at the 4 despite off season comments about moving to his natural wing position)
GRIII, Donnal, Chatman, Wilson
McGary, Horford, Donnal, Bielfeldt
Other than Arizona, show me a front court that matches up with that depth.
Tim McCormick spoke at a UM lunch today, expects Stauskas to go and the rest to stay.
the further we go in the tournament, the more likely Nik splits, says he.
I'd be fine with that. Everyone coming back except Nik, with McGary, Donnal and the 2014 recruits added to the mix? That could be a top 5 team.
Horford was always coming back IMO, just like J-Mo. We're going to need his leadership one more year.
It'll be nice to see him and McGary playing next to each other with GRIII at SF and him coming off the bench in a similar role behind McGary with GRIII and Irvin at the forward spots.
Personally, and I've said this for awhile, I think EVERYONE comes back just like UNC and UF have had not too long ago. I think they all come back for a shot at a national championship.
However, after NEXT season, I think just above everyone is gone. At least Horford (graduation), McGary, GRIII and Stauskas. I even think Max B leaves for a year of grad school like McLimans did. LeVert and Walton could also be out, but I'm hoping they'd return along with Irvin and Albrecht for one final year.
I see this exact same team next year in the same roles except swap McGary for Morgan.
Here are some interesting scenarios
Which would you pick
Win out (including B1G tourney) and win the dance. But, Nik, Mitch, GR3, Caris (has a huge tournament) leave.
Lose in championship game, Nik, Mitch, GR3 leave.
Lose in Final Four, Nik and GR3, leave.
Lose in Elite 8, Nik leaves.
Lose in Sweet 16, All come back
Easy - Win Out
Seriously, is there any doubt that winning once would be worth everyone leaving? Nothing is guaranteed next year, whoever returns.
What if it was guaranteed they make the elite 8 next year if they return them all???
Is there any doubt what would be chosen?
next year he will get the minutes his obscene REB% and PER deserve
After all the injuries to start his career he's rounding out well. Would like to see him add some more muscle and explosion. If Mitch stays as well we would have a formidable front court along with Donnal stretching things out with his shooting.
GR3 should come back along with Levert. A starting lineup of Walton, Levert, Irvin, GR3, and Mitch sounds good to me. Still have Spike, Horford, and Donnal off the bench with Chatman, and DJ Wilson coming in.
2015 definitely needs a 1 & 2 guard. With how Beilein and staff develops talent I trust they'll find just what we need.
I just don't want to believe Stauskas will only play here 2 years.
Stauskis being in the NBA already.
His body does not seem ready for how physical that league is and he does not create his own shot all that well at this level.
Left alone he is deadly. But you dont get left alone in the NBA if they know you can drill it.
I hope he comes back.
Have you watched any Michigan basketball this season? You think he's on the cusp of Big Ten Player of the Year because he hits shots when he's left wide open?
Come on. The only valid point you have is that he's not very thick, but that's not a huge deal for a guard who shots 45% from 3, is 6'6 and can create.
he'll be "creating" his own shot in the NBA. He doesn't have the handle, strength or quicks. To me the question is can he improve or is he destined to be a 3P shooter who helps spread the floor.
And while it's popular to say they don't play defense in the NBA there is sort of a range that goes from All Star game awful to championship better. Stauskas has to improve.
Like they play defense in the NBA
He'll improve his D while on that first round contract.
Why don't people understand that you don't need to be a fully polished product for it to be a great decision to go pro?
the only opinion that matters is yours....right?
What a dick.
He should be looked at as a great example of what a student/athlete can achieve in school. Glad to have him back!
JJ Reddick can take guys off the bounce in the NBA. Stauskas can adapt.
... John Horford does not return... he reincarnates, buddha style.
Win the fuck out!!!
Maybe I am reading too much into it but maybe Jon knows Mitch is leaving for the NBA and he wants to start at the 5 next season? Cue the X files conspiracy theme
We still need two bigs either way. Mitch being here still means decent playing time for Jon. It also wouldn't hurt if we ever got comfortable with two bigs out there
I want to enjoy the ride this year but I think this means Stauskas is probably gone. This team could be a powerhouse next year if Stauskas is back with LeVert, Walton, Irvin, and Spike.