Johnathon Hankins
Will somebody tell me what is going on with him. I just read on rivals that Florida just offerd and that he is taking a official for the florida st. game. His offer list is now.
Ohio St.
Florida
Okalahoma
Wisconsin
NO MSU NO U OF M
How can he have offers from 3 of the top programs yet none from the schools in his backyard. I have been watching Mark Ingram tear it up all year, how can we afford to let another one go out of state. Not even offer him??
November 13th, 2009 at 11:52 AM ^
If it was just Michigan you might have a point but it's the same thing if we offered a guy in Miami and none of the Florida schools did.
Who do you think knows more about instate kids? The teams and coaches who are a few miles away or someone from across the country?
***EDIT*** We also told him "get in shape and you'll get an offer". He didn't and didn't show that he really wanted it.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:56 AM ^
It's a little different than us offering a guy in Miami because Hankins is being offered by 3 top tier programs and we're not one at this point.
That said, I agree with your second point that the coaches must know something that others don't (or I really hope they do). He even camped at Michigan and still didn't get an offer.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:56 AM ^
offered a kid from Florida and Miami, Florida and Florida had all not offered I would trust those coaches more than our own. They see these kids A LOT and they know about these kids more than some other coach across the country.
Come on.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:56 AM ^
I guess Michigan has to take into account that kids who don't want to work hard most likely won't make it through Barwis' torture chamber, however Michigan has had success with kids in the past who have come in overweight and out of shape. IIRC, Will Campbell, Gabe Watson and even Brandon Graham fit this profile and GW and BG got it together and WC has lost the weight and appears to be in better shape.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:58 AM ^
maybe. But MSU is also not offering him. I trust both of the home schools more than some schools across the country.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^
and maybe I am overeacting but last time I checked Florida is #1 and Urban Myer has 2 national titles
Okalahoma would be in the top 5 in bradford had not been hurt.
Ohio State is #9 and has kicked our ass for 5 years.
Michigans record 5-5
States record 5-5
maybe just maybe you should look into trusting some other schools
November 13th, 2009 at 12:23 PM ^
you can take chances on a kid like hankins. as it is michigan really can't take on a fat/flight risk like hankins, especially when they have a more than legit shot at a more athletic and more explosive DT playing in a better region in big tex. btw he was also offered by florida and oklahoma.
also btw, if there's one position where we'd like to not follow ohio st in recruiting it's DT.
November 13th, 2009 at 4:41 PM ^
i think william gholston has something to do about it. im lazy and didnt do my homework but im sure a lot of the schools that offered hankins have also offered gholston. maybe those schools think they can get in on hankins and he can sway gholston and they become a package deal? if i remember correctly, hankins stated awhile ago he wanted to go to the same school as gholston, things most likely have changed though.
we could definitely use some more bodys on the defensive side though thats for sure. why not take a flyer? i fully expect rr to sign over 25. maybe 28 or so.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:26 PM ^
from those schools. If he did he would have already verballed. Sounds like a backup plan for them and right now our D can't afford backup plans.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:56 PM ^
So you're saying we were wrong with Dileo since LSU hasn't offered?
November 13th, 2009 at 12:57 PM ^
OH NO! The dreaded double post. Son of a bitch.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:52 AM ^
Easy Smitty D, just breathe.
I'm going to tie a rope to my waste you just grab ahold and we will get out of this mess together. You and me.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:09 PM ^
I am fine, I like Rich rod i don't care if we recruit 3* I just hate when players that are from this state go to other schools like NICK perry ronald johnson and now seemingly john hankins, you guys say he is out of shape so was william campbell, they got him
November 13th, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^
Nick Perry is not the same situation as Hankins. We offered Perry and he did not choose to stay in state. You are comparing apples to pencils here.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:18 PM ^
Whatever in 3 years when he is kicking our ass too, I guess we will be saying he should of been in shape, while this weekend we are going to get fucking ran over by OVERWEIGHT lineman in Wisky
November 13th, 2009 at 12:21 PM ^
You just sound like a joyful person. Please re-read the line at the top of the page. Don't panic.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:26 PM ^
I was being rude I am sorry. Its just that when I go to rivals today and the main article I click on says, "Johnathan Hankins recieves written offer from Florida." I get upset I trust rich rod I love the spread, I am not one of the people saying fire him he is death he killed tradition and all that crap.
I guess doubt is starting to creep in my head. When I see schools like Florida and Ohio St. offering prospects here and we are not it confuses me. Those schools are powerhouses, and to tell you the truth I guess I do trust their recruiting coordinators maybe more then ours right now.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:33 PM ^
But again, this is a different situation. Michigan looked at Hankins and passed. We don't know if Hankins will be an elite DT yet or not. Michigan looked at a guy like Perry and said "come on down", but he decided to go elsewhere and he ended up being really good. Based on not knowing the outcome of Hankins playing in college, you can't judge Michigan's non-offer on him based on the outcome of guys like Perry...it's not the same situation.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:40 PM ^
david from wyoming, I should of not compared him to Nick Perry. Thanks for reading my statement and responding to it. Unlike some people who just get defensive when anyone says something about their program
November 13th, 2009 at 12:50 PM ^
You're questioning coaches on a public forum over why they wouldn't offer Jonathon Hankins. Wow you looked at Rivals rankings and said "WHY DIDNT WE OFFER HIM THIS IS OUTRAGE!!!!"
This is you:
November 13th, 2009 at 1:16 PM ^
come on man I am not that kid so just stop that shit. I am sorry that I have a different view on Hankins then you but don't ever question what I know. FOR the fact I have seen southeastern play twice and I am going to watch them tonight at Sterling Heights Stevenson my old high school, who has the number 1 offense in the state, he has looked very good the games I have watched so, thats all I am going to say today
November 13th, 2009 at 1:34 PM ^
what Mr. Roh had to say should make people stop questioning things. People come here to voice their opinions and hopefully they do it in an intelligent way. If someone wants to write something then leave it be. You can't censor things bc we might, GASP, not get a recruit.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:36 PM ^
the same recruits as other "power-houses" no matter if they fit our scheme or not. This is a great idea! Who needs to look at film and all that stuff all that we need is to see the offers pages on Rivals. We will DOMINATE!!!!
November 13th, 2009 at 12:22 PM ^
for a fact!
pack it in boys why even play the game.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:26 PM ^
I guess I'll just rake some leaves or something tomorrow.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:32 PM ^
"Now that Denard is starting, Wisconsin's lines are HUGE and our lines are tiny and athletic what are you going to do since Michigan isn't going to show up to the game tomorrow?"
November 13th, 2009 at 12:35 PM ^
and hang out with you since you seem to be upset with me and I like you bouje don't be mad at me
November 13th, 2009 at 7:28 PM ^
I really hope this is sarcasm.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:00 PM ^
I think you have a typo. I think you spelled negative-nancy as smitty D.
Seriously, we take him we are taking a project. That hasn't shown our coaching staff the motivation, drive, determination it takes to garner an offer.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:07 PM ^
this now but yet everyone on this blog seems like they need to tell me I am stupid.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:16 PM ^
I don't understand that
November 13th, 2009 at 11:52 AM ^
He camped at Michigan, the coaches thought he was out of shape and unwilling to put in the work to dominate (this comes from WTKA recruiting round-ups). My guess is that the coaches at those other schools haven't had as much time with him in person and don't have the amount of 1st hand info Michigan does. Most recently I heard Michigan was waiting to see his progress over his senior year before extending an offer. I'm not saying the Michigan coaches were right to not extend him an offer, but I think this explains what you're seeing with his offers.
November 13th, 2009 at 11:56 AM ^
Barwis and Co. have already chased off a couple fatties (Mitchell, Slocum, Kates). Why would they want another one who's just going to remain fat and not do the work?
November 13th, 2009 at 12:00 PM ^
I'm pretty sure Slocum had to leave due to academic issues. FYI.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:03 PM ^
I see this as a big difference between the two: Rodriguez seems to err on the side of not picking up lineman who have good size but who show a propensity to get fat. He'll apparently take his chances with a leaner team made of guys who are workers...I don't say this to bash Carr. Michigan may well get crunched tomorrow by an O-line built on massive guys.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:52 PM ^
And this is one of my favorite things I have seen from Rodriguez. He appears to put more emphasis on effort and attitude than numbers (ie height, weight). I mean, he likes speed and size too, but they don't seem to be the first thing he looks at.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:03 PM ^
Couldn't this also be construed as confidence by some of these premier programs Perhaps they believe that once they get him on campus and around winners, they can get him to buy into the system.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:28 PM ^
I think the biggest thing is that these elite teams don't need him to be great right away. He will likely have a few years before he sees major time, and with the depth they have they afford that risk as was mentioned above.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:10 PM ^
i think we should offer him but there are signs of another Adam Patterson there which is what our coaches are afraid of.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^
this has more to do with the fact that Michigan has a very good chance with others at his position. Mainly Big Tex.
If UM does not land any other DT's and there is a scholarship open for a DT... I wouldn't be surprised if Hankins got a late offer.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:45 PM ^
What do Florida and Michigan's recruiting coordinators have to do with it? They don't decide who to recruit. The coach says "Recruit Bob Dole" and then the recruiting coordinators get contact information, set up visits, etc. No offense to Chris Singletary, but he's got little to no say in who we recruit.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:47 PM ^
has a wicked stiff arm.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:48 PM ^
+1 for 'funny' -1 for 'eww' +1 for 'beating me to that joke'
November 13th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^
told this kid at camp to drop some weight and to get into shape and we'll offer you, and he didn't bother with it. then that is squarely on him. i sometimes get the feeling that these kids feel that they are entitled to offers instead of earning them. but for all we know michigans coaches could still be tracking him.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:59 PM ^
I don't know how to make the nice yellow box, so I'll do it old school:
Smitty wrote:
"Okalahoma would be in the top 5 in bradford had not been hurt......Michigans record 5-5"
Smitty: If you get to speculate OK's record if Bradford hadn't been hurt, then I get to speculate UM's record had Forcier not been hurt. I say they would be at least 7-3 right now if Forcier had remained healthy, and possibly 8-2.
Ya think that would have changed the atmosphere surrounding the program?
November 13th, 2009 at 1:03 PM ^
Bradford has missed entire games. Tate has missed a few plays or series. Our record would not be 7-3 with Tate healthy.
Molk being healthy on the other hand....
November 13th, 2009 at 1:04 PM ^
Tate to the heisman trophy winner of last year is the most ridiculous thing I have ever herd period
November 13th, 2009 at 1:17 PM ^
I don't think he was comparing Tate to Bradford. He was saying that you were speculating on what Oklahoma would be (record wise) had Bradford not been injured, so he speculating on ours had Tate not been.
You ever hear the one about the kid who plays football and runs track with his shoe laces untied? Now that is ridiculous (true.....but fucking ridiculously amazing).
November 13th, 2009 at 1:05 PM ^
stop to think that maybe Hankins wants to go to school out of state and UM/MSU know this already?
November 13th, 2009 at 1:08 PM ^
he camped at both schools this summer and neither offered, to me, that says a lot.