This is probably the 4th time I said this on here, Beilein's last year at WV he lost his top 6 scorers from the previous season and still won the NIT championship and had wins over 2 top 10 teams. I was checking out the players they lost and it was astonishing he did so well. He lost Kevin Pittsnogale,Mike Gansey, Patrick Beilein and many others.
John Beilein is a great coach
It's so funny seeing fans from other schools visiting a Michigan blog site. Really goes to show you we are the leaders and the best.
It's true: Brian Cook runs the best blog in the Big 10. I'd read it if it were an Iowa blog or a Wisconsin blog or whatever.
It's just fun to watch the hive mindset kick in after every bad event. A little bit of trolling helps bring unpopular opinions to the foreground. The Michigan fans won't say them because they don't want to be negged. I don't mind.
That's because you're an idiot
You must have wwaaaayyyyy too much time on your hands.
I can honestly tell you that you could count on one hand that had every digit cut off by a table saw the number of times I visited a teams website that I was not a fan of. Oh to have a life so full that I had nothing better to do than see what opposing fans were talkng about.
Dude, you should get a life.
at least do your homework.
State loses Morgan and possibly Lucas.
Purdue loses 3 starters - Grant, Kramer, and Johnson (almost declared early last year definitely leaving this year)
Ohio State will lose Turner
Wisconsin loses Hughes, Bohannon and a bench player
Minnesota loses 2 starters - Westbrook and Johnson
Illinois was an average team at best that benefited greatly from a weak schedule
Indiana, Penn State, Iowa will not be rebuilt overnight
To me that is a lot of talent that seems to be leaving. I will also bet dollars to donuts that Manny returns next year and if Lucas is not around he will be the favorite for conference POY. DO YOUR HOMEWORK NEXT TIME.
one last thing... the worst kept secret in the big ten is the relationship between mccamey and weber. Did you watch today's game?
Yes, he conveniently didn't mention McCamey will probably be gone next year.
McCamey isn't going anywhere. His relationship with Weber has been up and down but its nowhere near Harris and Beilein levels. He's still in an NBA or bust mindset according to everyone around him. Harris is looking to get out, even if it means going D-League.
As for the other examples, you think Lucas is going, except for that he really has no incentive to go. Purdue returns two of their top three players for sure, may return Johnson as well, and they were a top five team before Hummel was injured. LewJack will also be around the entire season. OSU loses Turner but is getting a monster recruiting class. Minnesota loses no one particularly special and will get their point guard back from ineligibility. Northwestern gets back their best player. Illinois returns everyone and will be on their second top-10 recruiting class in a row.
And, although I hate to repeat myself, Michigan's recruiting class just isn't that good. You guys sound like Michigan State football fans when you try puffing it up. It's definitely a better class than what you've been getting, but even if you get Zeigler (which you're won't) it would still be behind OSU, MSU, Illinois and Purdue.
Michigan was a two man team this year. They will lose both players. If you want to read improvement into that, by all means go ahead. I'm just looking forward to the threads in 2011 when Michigan is 11-19 (5-13) and people are angrily calling out the haters for all the pessimism.
There is as good a chance that Manny leaves as McCamey and Lucas but then your point would be ridiculously stupid and moot, so you chose to ignore it. This is why you are a tool. Go home troll. Illinois will blow nuts next year without their floor general
...with your ability to continue talking out of your ass regarding Manny Harris. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
Except for that it's not going to be four returning starters, it's going to be three. And the two starters you are losing are the only two players you had this year that could have played for MSU, OSU, Wisconsin, etc. Douglas, Novak, and Lucas-Perry are Iowa-level talent. Morris may develop into a better player than that, but hasn't yet. And none of the players you have coming in are game changers as freshmen. They're decent players that might develop in time.
I refuse to carry on a conversation with a rival fan who claims to know the future of our players before the last game has been played. Remember before the year when it was a sure thing that Manny was leaving? Also, Lucas-Perry was recruited by and played for Arizona, so I am going to guess Iowa thanks you for putting their program up to the Wildcats level. As I said before, stick to Illinois basketball.