Joey Galloway's comments during yesterday's game
Joey Galloway sucks. I don't think we need to analyze his comments to know that.
I am rewatching and he is even worse. The ref accidentally said late hit when it was a personal foul face mask...and he's arguing why it's not a late hit and how you have to let the defender finish the hit.
Dumb ass...that wasn't the call, the refs made a mistake on the announcement. It was clear as day, especially with replay.
This one bugged me as well. Clearly it was a penalty. The referee mistakenly announced it as a late hit, but it was a facemask. Galloway chirping about the defender's feet being allowed to follow through with the tackle as the replay ran showing Gardner's head being turned was pretty bad.
However, nothing will ever top Urban Meyer calling "The Game" while his agent ironed out the final details of his contract with OSU. He was slobbering all over Braxton Miller. Michigan won so it more-or-less went ignored, but he was just attrocious knowing any praise or even even keeled analysis he offered up for Michigan could be held against him once he officially took the job days later.
Never heard of the guy.
What's the sign? He has always shot his mouth and comes off with a really impressive blend of arrogance and ignorance.
i hate galloway too but really? a michigan fan calling someone else arrogant? for real?
End of story.
No thread necessary.
Fuck Joey and his 4.2 40...
It was a difficult broadcast to listen to. I want that TV with the setting to mute the comentators but let through the croud noise.
He was pretty much just being honest.
I also don't blame him. He started to say it, realized, although true, it wasn't the right thing for a commentator to say, and trailed off quietly.
Joey for the Miami game if it's espn.
I expect lower production values from the B10 Network, but the commentary, inability to get relevant replays, lack of anyone with knowledge of the rules, etc. is pretty surprising for ESPN. I imagine if you held open tryouts for color and play-by-play you could score a dozen better candidates in an afternoon.
I still can't believe there was no mention of what happened with the timeout right before the third down play for App State when they came back from commercial. The last thing the audience sees before the commercial is a sack, then the broadcast returns and it is third down again. There was another play where a flag was thrown and they mentioned it, but nothing was called and once again they commentators did not offer an explanation.
It was bad enough hearing Joey talk about how great it was, but there is no excuse for how bad the overall coverage was.
from a commercial the repeated third down also resulted in a tackle for a loss (a sack this time).
I was a tad confused, and I was sober.
You would think why the teams were playing a complete down again would at least be worth mentioning.
You're still surprised when ESPN puts a dogshit product on the field?
That's like being Charlie Brown and being surprised when Lucy pulls the football away. ESPN has been shitting up sports for about 15 years.
solves the "color commentary by Joey Galloway" problem nicely.
Saying Robert smith does a nice job may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. That dude is a complete joke of an analyst.
Smith is just as bad. His Michigan hatred clearly shows. He & Galloway are probably still mad they never beat Michigan except for the 13-13 game
I find it funny how people here love Desmond Howard for always showing his Michigan bias but hate former OSU players who do the same for OSU. If you think all ESPN broadcasters should not show bias, that's fine but don't be a hypocrite. People make way too big a deal about former OSU players calling Michigan games. The alma maters of the commentators doesn't even cross the minds of the people setting up the schedules for the weeks games and it's not a huge deal.
we're Michigan fans, not ohio state fans.....
Thats not a fair comparison.
Desmond is in the studio offering his opinions, biased as they may be. Galloway is on the broadcast, where commentators are expected to be unbiased and call the game objectively, unless its a ND Fig Thing game on NBC, but lets not get into that...
This! Totally different jobs. A commentator should be unbiased.
Until every M game is broadcast by some combination of Dierdorf, drunken Brandstatter, and Zombie Ufer, people around here will be upset. They hate Musberger. They hate Herbstreit. They hate Hammond & Mayock. They hate Speilman. They hate Mike Patrick. They hate all the women (sideline reporters excepted). They hate Danielson & Lundquist. They hate Chunky. They hate all the studio guys except Desmond. They hate the BTN guys.
So much hate.
and clone Keith Jackson.
It does seem like the natural follow up to a sheep.
Honestly there are two people I hate - Musburger because he's kinda creepy, and Matt Millen, he has no credibility when talking about football after destroying the lions.
Who in the hell is chunky?
student play-caller on the radio at some mediocre institution of higher learning.
....you mean like OSU.
My favorite was calling De'veon Smith slow after he broke off a run that was about 15 yards longer than Michigan's longest from 2013. You'd think that would have been a good time to mention the hole that the line opened, or the discipline Smith showed in letting the hole open and making the cut with authority, or the excellent downfield blocking. You'd think that, because you're not an OSU douche.
I kind of chuckled when they showcased some downfield blocking by a wide out and Beth took a jab at Joey saying something about him not having any experience with that.
I also liked the battering he gave Gardener for "being confused" last year. You can tell he has no idea what he's talking about.
Oh, wait. Now I remember. Typical 11W commentary.
With all our scoring, I had a tough time hearing Joey. I'm sure he said something profound though.
He didn't bother me.
The fastest guy in the stadium comment came across to me as Galloway making fun of himself. It was mildly humorous.
Yeah, he doesn't seem to know our team very well and said some dumb stuff, but that's pretty standard with broadcasting crews.
He made me LOL a couple times. I wouldn't want to listen to him in a close or important game, but in a 35-0 at half-time game I was ok with it.
True, most broadcasting crews don't know the teams intimately, so mistakes get made, but Galloway did seem bent on putting as negative a spin on Michigans performance that he could. Given that potential recruits watch the games, that kind of broadcasting from a rival is borderline unethical.
I don't think Joey Galloway was being bias...he's just an unprepared idiot like 99% of other broadcasters
The actual quote is attributed to Napoleon, and goes something very close to "never attribute to malice that which can be adeqately explained by stupidity."
Robert Smith is the douche.
He said green had had maturity issues, but had overcome them. That's perfectly believable; the lack of weight control was probably at least partially a maturity issue.
the rest of us?
Galloway is horrible. Not sure what ESPN's obsession with former OSU players is, but for some reason they like to hire them and assign them to UM games.
Galloway did a good job. Robert Smith needs to be beaten senseless to wipe that smug, shitty eating grin off his face. Nobody knows why it there, only that the world needs it rearranged.
Here is how the broadcast went:
Beth Mowins: "Hi! I am a basic, solid play by play announcer and good professional."
with his being slightly biased (going against every call that might have benefitted Michigan),or even the weird way he questioned Derrick Green's maturity. My problem was that the three times he actually managed to put together a coherent sentence, he added zilcho to the game.
Mowins is awful.
whether anyone who gets as exercised about her as some of you do could accept any woman calling a game. She's thoroughly unobjectionable.
Galloway, on the other hand, just comes across as an amateur. Compared to someone like Gus Johnson he comes up so thoroughly short on facts, inspiration, and color that he's pretty close to pitiful. The racing comment distinguished itself in being the only thing of ANY interest he said all day. And THAT was so lame even Denard didn't rise to the bait. Some guy who played football in the 80s is talking sh*t about racing me? Yawn.
Her voice bothers me for some reason. There are women with voices that don't bother me.
I finally got Dierdorf and Brandy to sync with the broadcast, and it was glorious. Sayonara Mowins!
I've been a bit surprised that there haven't been a lot of comments (at least that I've seen) on the quality of the radio broadcast. I caught the highlight reel on MGoBlue.com, which synchs the video with the radio calls, and I thought it was a pretty good start for Brandstatter as a play-by-play guy. Because what they posted is all action, there was little of Dierdorf on it though. Anyone have an opinion of the new radio team?
much better than any of the TV announcers. I plan to sync all the broadcasts.
But I am concerned about how a group of Michigan fans could sync with delayed radio while watching together in a bar. I thought that the radio broadcasts this year were not supposed to be delayed. What happened?
I'd heard the broadcast play-by-play would not be delayed for fans within the stadium as one of their "enhancements." Don't know that they committed that for the radio feed itself.
I've always been able to synch the radio and video as long as I've had the ability to delay the video. If they don't delay the audio that might be a problem as the two likely will be out of synch just due to differences in transmission times. Seems harder to delay the audio if it turned out that it were broadcast before the video.
Well, there are several TBD times still on the schedule, of course, but the chances of seeing Galloway again among what is known are probably not great. I very much doubt his team gets the Penn State game, and the Miami (OH) and Indiana games are 3:30 PM kicks which, even if they end up on ESPN or ESPN2, still stand less than a 20% chance since I think 6 or 7 different teams from ESPN rotate through those games.
Does anyone know his 40 time? I know he's 6-5 230 plus, but I couldn't tell the locals (I live out of state) what his speed is like.
The team calling Saturday's Michigan game was weak. Not so much biased, as flat-out bad. Some examples include fucking up names of Michigan landmarks and players ("Union Hall," what?); sarcastic banter where the lead announcer was calling out Galloway's down-field blocking ability (you have to have some credibility to take swipes like that); total lack of knowledge of Michigan personnel, or context for who was playing where; trying to make Peppers' injury into a storyline.
I would rather suffer Galloway than either Robert Smith or Spielman. Those two, but especially Smith, are glib, smug, and engage in subtle passive-aggressive Buckeye promotion. Herbstreit is very, very good. He knows what he is talking about and can call a game.
Deep down i think herbstreit wished he played for us. Usually the ohio people of high moral fiber choose us. Note that he had to move out of state due to his own OSU fans harassing his family.
His dad was an OSU captain under Woody Hayes, so I doubt it.
I honestly cannot understand why you would take Galloway over Spielman. Spielman is far more articulate when it comes to explaining the game than almost anyone else doing color commentary.
Former Lions great also.
On the subject of commentators, whats with the B1G Network hiring non-B1G studio guys now?? I'd understand if those guys were good, but the ex-LSU receiver that was on the Friday studio show couldn't even pronounce some of the more popular B1G players' names correctly. Surely they could find some more ex-B1G players that could do the same mediocre job.
Speilmans problem is he loves us. Love and hate same emotion and he chose us but his father and the entire state blocked it.
I remember listening to the interview where he told his dad that he wanted to go to Michigan. Although he said his dad told him he would basically disown him if he choose Michigan. So deep down in his heart I am sure he wish he would have wore the Maize and Blue.
I'm sure he got over it after all of these years.
But the important thing is that he does not reflexively hate us. He can actually call a game with Michigan in it pretty much the same as any other game he calls. Smith and Galloway can't get past the fact that it's Michigan, especially in the Big House.
That's fine. I don't think I could go into Ohio Stadium to call a game and successfully hide the implied "assholes" that just comes out with every comment I make regarding Ohio State football.
"Robert Smith does a nice job in the studio."
Uhhhh... What? He's the biggest Ohio State homer and Michigan hater out of all of them. I don't think I have ever heard him say a negative word about Ohio State, or a positive word about Michigan, ever.
Was going to start crying when they showed the OSU halftime highlights when they were down 13-14. He might be the most biased out of them all.
Also, my most fond memory of Chris Spielman commentating a game is when he said the best chance for a defense to score a touchdown is when they are playing against the offense. I will never forget that comment.
I have listened to the likes of Pam Ward, Chris Martin, and too many horrible commentators but Beth Mowins did a decent job. Joey Galloway needs to take attention off himself and put it back on the game. Actually, I see a trend putting more emphasis on the announcing personalities taking away from the game but no one watches because of the announcer.
People will disagree with me, but I like how he talks about the particulars. His NFL perspective on technique is interesting. Hammond is okay for a Domer. Yeah, he looks like a mansheep, but that's good for humor.
I watched the ND game yesterday and most of them last year too. I guess I have to pay closer attention.
Mayock talks about a football game as if it was a scouting combine. "Look at how big his hands are." "Look at that closing speed." "This kid can ______."
No thanks. I like a color commentator who talks about the game, not the physical tools of the kids playing the game. I know the guy is fast, tell me why that is important in the context of his responsibility on this play.
Mayock is great. I'm a big fan of Mike Tirico. I think he's one of the best around right now. Seems very intelligble about what's going on and has just the right amount of excitement when something great happens.
Spielman is fine IMO, I think he speaks the truth, when a criticism is deserved, he dishes it, when kudos is deserved, he dishes that. He's not as polished as herbstreit but he's tolerable most of the time. To me, Galloway just comes across as not informed, doesn't know Michigan, just makes stupid comments.
I actually think Chris Spielman is very biased and goes out of his way to criticize Michigan more than other teams. I don't think Galloway is as bad as Spielman.
team like that.
I agree, and Spielman has it down to where he seems to think he's hiding it, but he isn't, and everyone listening knows it. Galloway I think just isn't as polished and makes a lot of uninformed comments.
I feel like all the things Spielman criticizes us for during the game are the same things many of our coaches would as well. Maybe this isn't what a commentator should do, but I like it.
Spielman has this thing where he criticizes bad plays and gives kudos to good plays. I think the reason that people might be confised is that he did the UConn game, and there was a LOT to criticise.
Yep. If you broke down last year's Mich/Ohio game that Spielman did, I'd guesstimate he was 75% positive Ohio comments vs 25% negative Ohio comments, and about 45% positive Michigan comments vs 55% negative Michigan comments.
They need to get rid of ex-Alums doing games like that.
I think the term for "ex-alum" is "corpse."
it wasn't really that bad.
I don't think the issue is bias; the issue is that he's an idiot.
Most commentators are and the rest are instructed to dumb things down for the average viewer.
That's why this blog is so vital.
I would venture to guess that everyone who considers Spielman to be unbiased is a Lions fan. I think he's a good commentator, but he is as biased as anyone else.
You know how to get rid of Joey Galloway? Don't play App St to open the season on ESPN.
Every team plays a cupcake or two at some point in the year.
F*ck Joey Galloway. I'd almost rather listen to Pam ward than that biased fool.
I think it's interesting that Michigan doesn't have a complete "homer" play-by-play guy that does our games. Even Bob Griese was pretty impartial and he was doing Brian's games -- now THAT is a professional. Desmond is on CGD, and I think he's very imparital, but he doesn't do play-by-play that I've seen.
Robert Smith and Spielman unbiased? My ass. Loved how yesterday, when referring to the elite programs in the nation, Smith opened a sentence with "Alabama and Ohio State" and named no others.
Watch the Ohio/Mich game Spielman called again, and note he devotes 70% of his comments toward Ohio players.
I can't believe how much college football audio now gets filtered through the lips of so many damned ex-Buckeyes. There should be a quota and they've far exceeded it.
and he never did. A million fakes out of 5. It's just urban legend.
I didn't notice that he was that bad yesterday but I lost respect for him earlier in the week when he was in College Football Live (or other espn show) and when talking BIG10 he obviously talked MSU and OSU but when asked about Michigan he said that they just don't have the talent to compete. Now I know recruiting sites don't mean everything but you would think he would see that we have put together some great classes and the one thing we do have is young Talent !! May not be translating to the field yet but there is talent there. (It did on Sat) Do your homework Joey! When the BIG10 network guys went to AA that's what they highlighted the talent that's there.
Note- I don't think I notice commentating because I come here to much and try to observe the topics/ issues brought up here. Which is much more relevant than what they are jawing about.
I had the game on, and my wife said, "That woman is terrible." I responded, "She has to keep talking, because Joey Galloway sits there for minutes at a time without saying anything."
And when Galloway did say something, it was frequently anti-UM. And yes, arguing the facemask late hit call was a bit much. I find Spielman to be very fair to UM, pretty much the same for Kirk and Smith. Joey has to go.
This fanbase cries about everything. Whaaaa Joey was mean to us!
Nothing more enjoyable than a guy posting on a message board complaining about people making a mountain out of a molehill.
It's games like these when I wish I spoke another language so that I could switch to that feed and save myself the trouble of listening to former Buckeyes try to string together full sentences.
We should petition ESPN to have Jalen Rose announce our games. Love his bias.
I don't blame Joey. He had to sit through a Michigan blowout and it probably reminded him of the beatdowns Michigan put on him. Kind of like PTSD for Ohio players.
end of story. Chris S. is a great commentator...he holds no bias. Joey obviously does
games. It really doesn't matter to me who is calling a game, I don't even think about in fact. If I flip to the ND game, I want to see how they are doing. When I turn on CBS sports to see Ohio State/Navy, I am more interested in the fact that it is 14-13 Navy than if Vern and Gary are the broadcasters. When I watch Bears games, it doesn't matter to me if Joe Buck and Troy Aikman or Daryl Johnston and whoever are calling it, I am just glad to be watching the Bears.
I get why some people are concerned with the announcers, so mute it. As for the bias, I woiuld argue that if some of us were Buckeyes fans, we would scream that Brian Griese is so biased for Michigan. It seems to work against what you are in favor of.
Spielman is really good. He is insightful and he offers commentary other than the usual twaddle that seems to be geared towards 7 year olds who are just learning about the game of football. Spielman is one of the few guys who points out things that Brian later points out in his UFRs. Blackledge is decent at this too and so is Ed(?) Cunningham, who for some reason people don't like.
He and Sean McDonough make a wonderful pair. They are probably the most critical guys in their jobs in the business and for some reason I love listening to them get offended when a team is playing like shit in front of them.