Ok reading another one of those "don't rush the court" threads. Those are ridiculous we rushed the court it's over stop talking about it, it's over finished end of conversation. It was brought up that we as a fan base need to find another technique of INTIMIDATION!!!!!!! (imagine that in one of those God like voices). Lets be honest Jingling the keys is downright annoying, I guess there is a claw, I assume like the Tiger claw, that is more annoying than those foam fingers. On this topic and I believe we are an intelligent fanbase lets come up with something better. Something like the Cleveland drummer, those wacky wavy inflatable arm flailing tube men behind the basket. I know these are cliche but let's please stop jingling keys I do that for my baby cousin. I know the best form of INTIMIDATION!!!! is a higher decibel level, but something to make us stand out. When I was little and I know this will get me negged, but I wanted to go to Florida, not for tradition, or the powerhouse Steve Spurrier had created, It was solely because when I was seven I went to UF vs. FSU and the the atmosphere created by the gator chomp.
Jingle those keys?
WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!!!!!
Not intimidating when said by a 10-year-old on a school bus.
Agreed, but I really hate the jingling of keys. I miss the marshmallows. At least the camera guys were intimidated then.
Think the camera guys were intimidated by marshmallows with the "solid metal core". Wasn't that the reason that tradition ended?
I'm not sure. Eventually they put up a plexiglass shield to protect the camera guy on the lift. It was his fault he got pelted since he always blocked the view of the students.
Ultimately, I guess it was probably a safety issue that killed the marshmallow fights, but they were pretty cool to be a part of.
With more cowbell!
I wanted to be a pirate as a little kid...I guess some dreams just never come true
Jingling the keys is less about being intimidating and more about recognizing that play as a "key play". That is why you still yell at the top of your lungs while jingling your keys.
Jingling the keys really irks me though because it's no longer a recognition of a key play and more of just a recognition of a 3rd down.
All 3rd downs are not key plays, people!
Based on the relative interest they show in The Wave and Beachballs vs. Football, there are a bunch of people in the student section who would do well to advertise their recognition of 3rd down...
All 3rd downs are not key plays, people!
I also dislike the key-jangling, but for the complete opposite reason. When you're in the stands, every play should be a key play. You should be making lots of noise every time the other team has the ball, not just on third down when the cheerleaders hold up the "KEY PLAY" sign.
So what you're saying.... is that we should....
To be clear, I have little use for the keys altogether - they hardly make any noise. I'm just saying that we need to give up the idea that we only need to make noise on 3rd downs; we should be loud/intimidating on all downs on defense. (I have no idea why I got negged for saying this. People want a quiet stadium?)
I think what sets us apart is that our stadium holds 110,000 + people.
I have never understood why crowds all start making noise while the player is preparing to shoot. He takes a deep breath, acclimates himself to the noise, and is able to execute easily because the noise remains constant throughout his delivery. I would love to see a crowd go dead silent, wait until the shooter is halfway through is shooting motion, and then explode as he starts his forward phase.
This would be much more effective at making opponents miss free throws. It wouild change the enviroment and energy level in the middle of the shot he is trying to execute and there is no way he could mentally prepare for it. It would almost be guaranteed to cause a "yip" in the shooter. Inexplicably, no crowd has figured this out or even tried it to see if it would work.
This needs to happen. Can we get SILENCE signs to the cheerleaders and Maize Rage, immediately soon?
Also - there is one guy who figured this out, but in the wrong way and mostly as a fluke. When Harris was taking his 2 shots during what should have been Garbage Time on Sunday, Crisler went silent, but for one dude who sounded like he was actually cheering FOR Manny as he jerked up a brick.
I thought of that when reading Taters' post.
Cameron Crazies have done it. it's impossibly hard to make an entire arena go silent for a united rush of noise. people just don't care enough to time it.
"People just don't care enough to time it."
Probably half of it. The other half being that they don't have the knowledge that a lot of their chants/sike outs/whatever are ineffective or pointless.
I pulled off a seemingly effective version of this during the BC game this year. After the game was "over," most of the arena cleared out (nice and quiet), and lo and behold Reggie Jackson was up for some meaningless free throws
so while he was preparing I yelled "Regggggiiiieeee....."
louder this time, "REGGIEEEEEEEE!!!!"
then, right as he was about to shoot I yelled at the top of my lungs, in my best blood-curdling metal voice, "REEGGGGIIEEE!!!"
and he missed. I am sure he feared for his life. So the quiet-first-then-get-loud method works. We must command the sheep to behave properly
STOP doing the damn seminole wave we are not Florida St. I hate that ohhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhh (wave, wave) stop doing it!!!! Once again we are not Florida St.
When did this start happening? I don't really remember ever seeing the Seminole Chop at Michigan Stadium.
turning your hand from a chop to a claw does not a new cheer make
The motion is imitating pushing their heads down... you know... to suck. Isn't that what it's supposed to be?
A friend of mine who was in the marching band a decade ago insists that the motion is supposed to be a closed fist swinging downward, like a hammer going down on the opponent. Unfortunately, lots of fans have wrongly interpreted it to be an FSU-style chop instead. And then the Daily added to the confusion by promoting a third motion (the "claw") in recent years.
I think most of us can agree that the chop is bad and unoriginal. I guess the "claw" is original, but it's dorky. The fist is the best. I'd like to see us go back to it.
Realistically, other than, yell louder, or, throw shit and become really obnoxious, we don't have a whole lot of options as far as intimidation.
A successful Maize out would be cool, but that's never going to happen as 30-35% of the stadium will always wear blue. Not to mention the fact that there are so many different Maize colored Michigan shirts and sweatshirts on the market.
The only thing that would genuinely make Michigan stadium a more intimidating place to play IMO would be to move the fans much closer to the field (think the Swamp) and making the seating first come best seat, but neither of those things will ever happen
Michigan Stadium's first row is right behind the players just like like at the swamp
It's waaaayyy different, because the fans are at field level and in the end zones they are literally right on top of the action as opposed to Michigan Stadium where you are 10 feet above the field and pretty far removed from the end zone. The swamp is the closest thing to arena football style seating you'll see.
Even on the sidelines, the fans are right there. A Michigan player couldn't just go over and give someone a hug in the stands.
I mean, they are right there. Its gotta be intimidating, not only in terms of the extra noise, but when you're running a route in the end zone and instead of a brick wall 15 feet away from the back line, there is a wall of people 10 feet away from you at ground level.
I agree this is why I believe the swamp is the most intimidating stadium to play at thus creates a significant home field advantage.
I jingle my mf'ing keys AT THE BAR while watching UM games. I love it, can't stop won't stop.
We all need to use Jouney sike outs. It worked in Baseketball. Nothing throws off a shooter like a solid "Steeeeeeeeeve Perrrry!
I put them in my hoodie pouch along with my caseless digital camera watching The Game in 2006 at a standing room only B-Dubs on State Street. I pretty much ruined the screen.
I will never not jingle my keys again.
Yeah, keys of coke! BADDUMPSH!
Death Valley is LSU...