November 9th, 2014 at 4:15 PM ^
I doubt it. I dislike the Ann Arbor gossip mill intensely, but by all indications Les Miles is just not a very good guy and he was doing some very underhanded scuzzy things on the recruiting trail. Rumors have continually surfaced that Bo was on frosty terms with him by the end because he was actively damaging the Michigan program.
November 9th, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^
I heard from somewhere that Bo did speak with Miles not too long before his passing and the two cleared things up. If true, Bo could have been a strong advocate for Miles.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:40 AM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 7:44 AM ^
Got it
November 9th, 2014 at 7:51 AM ^
He should have remembered this speech before he thrrew Bo and Michigan academics under the bus in 2007. Give me the guy that never publicly criticizes Michigan and works like hell behind the scenes to make it better. Give me the guy that understands that "The Team, The Team, The Team," is more than a slogan.
If he's coming back, he needs to address those comments in his interview process and his answer should carry more weight than his coaching acumen.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:19 AM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:29 AM ^
Jim said something that was probably true - players were, and still are advised into paths where they can stay eligible and graduate. Vincent Smith said on this blog he regretted not being able to take some more advanced classes like calculus. Reality is: only the top 5-10% or so of students nationally can compete on the grading curve in the more rigorous subjects at Michigan. An even more narrow subset have the right physical make up and skills to play football. It later came out that at Stanford there was an official list of easier classes to take to balance you work load.
People don't like to bring up the fact that a lot of players were in General Studies, and later Kinesiology, etc. The worst part was Jim just happened to say it to the Ann Arbor News when they were trying expose a questionable course and broadening into a larger question of academic integrity.
At the end of the day, this is one of 3 places I think the NCAA has to change:
1) Improve the academic mission: Properly prepare the athletes for college level courses, continue to ethically support them through school, and give the athletes the opportunity to come back and pursue a second degree once their playing days are over.
2) Shift to the Olympic model: most of the athletes will never be successful at the professional level. Allow them to earn what they can through endorsements, and autographs, and sponsorships while they are in college. [Yes they already are economically benefiting from their ability, but if we brought all this stuff above board, the sport would be more ethical. Why should coaches and ADs officially get cars and not players if the free market supports it?]
3) Extend medical coverage for injuries sustained while playing college sports.
As for Jim, in his locker room speech before the 2009 Sun Bowl, Jim Harbaugh asked the Cardinals if they wanted "to be the conquering heroes?"
He's Blue
November 9th, 2014 at 2:51 PM ^
I said it then, and I'll say it now: Harbaugh's mistake wasn't saying what he said--it was going back to the well and digging in his heels about it multiple times. He wasn't wrong. At all. But he pressed the issue one too many times.
Sure, there were serious problems with the academics story Carty and co. wrote for the AANews back then. Anybody who had ever taken classes at Michigan and/or looked at the academic calendar could have pointed out a series of holes in his argument. But the General Studies-palooza that the program had turned into wasn't a positive for Michigan. And Harbaugh was right to point that out.
I was talking to my dad yesterday about all the football players who lived on his floor in SQuad in the 70s. Those guys all left Michigan and became doctors, lawyers, academics, business owners. They were set up for success, and not coddled into an easy major. Bo didn't run a program of dumb jocks coddled into gimme majors. I'd like to see Michigan move back in that direction, and I don't doubt Harbaugh would, too.
November 9th, 2014 at 3:01 PM ^
??? But that's exactly what Harbaugh was essentially alleging.
November 9th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^
Doesn't change the fact that just as in the 70s, the vast majority of Michigan football players will never play a down of professional football.
November 9th, 2014 at 4:02 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:32 AM ^
Because we're hiring him as a PR executive? You must be kidding. When hiring a coach, coaching acumen should carry the most weight. You could argue that DB hired Hoke because this wasn't the highest priority in his search.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
Everything he said was dead-on right. Michigan DID (still does?) still athletes to easy majors to keep them eligible. This did NOTHING for them once they gradulated. Remember, 95% of kids aren't going pro.
Sure, his comments were self-serving, as he was trying to pump up Stanford. And maybe a bit hypocritical, as Stanford has been shown to do some of the same with their athletes. But it doesn't change the fact that he was right, and Michigan should look to do better. If a kid WANTS to be in a better major, Michigan has the resources to help him try, even if that means he's going to have to spend a lot more time studying and be at some academic risk. Shunting him into an easier major that isn't useful to him in life just to keep him on the football field isn't in the kid's best interest.
Obviously there are some kids at the very low end of the qualifying scale that you probably have no choice with. Michigan is a tough school and certain programs are absolute killers.
November 9th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
Athletes with sub-standard academic credentials do get steered towards easier majors. Realistically, that's probably their best bet for getting a degree at all, which often is what matters most (a lot of employers don't care what your specific major was.) Those with normal qualifications can usually major in whatever they want.
In any event, we now have a program (M-Pact) geared toward preparing athletes for post-sports careers.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:41 AM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^
Marcus Ray talked in circles the other day, [like why would we retain Hoke this year to maintain a small recruiting class, and then evaluate him next year when an even larger recruiting class would be at risk?].
However, I agree with Marcus that one risk of Jim Harbaugh is old school football gets at a high level of competition that may not be enough to be at the very top. Especially when you run up against the oversigning Alabamas of the world.
Side note: remember 2006 when the Michigan - Ohio State game was the clash of titans like that Bama - LSU game last night? Sad state ....
November 9th, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^
We're a long way from that conversation right now, however.
November 22nd, 2014 at 12:39 AM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 8:48 AM ^
This is more depressing than anything.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:52 AM ^
ok, this hits me in the feels and all, but what happens if he doesnt want to come back? It almost feels like we are setting ourselves up for absolute heart break.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^
Harbaugh gave one of the most rah-rah Go Blue speeches I've ever seen at the pep rally before the 2007 Rose Bowl.
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November 9th, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
OK give it a shot: [email protected]
November 9th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^
Let the record reflect that Bo was wearing khakis in the clip.
November 9th, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^
Save us Jimmy
November 9th, 2014 at 11:41 AM ^
Everyone keeps saying we need to divorce ourselves from the Bo lineage.
Goddamnit. The Bo lineage is staring us straight in the face. He wasn't able to coach with Bo or any of Bo's coaches because Lloyd didn't hire hm onto his staff, but Jim Harbaugh is the closest thing to Bo you are ever going to find. If we don't do everything in our power to bring this guy to AA it will be a travesty.
Obviously it has to be his decision to come. But we need to put the ball in his court.
November 9th, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^
The Bo lineage is not the problem. Harbaugh and Miles are Bo guys and they've been very successful. A good coach is a good coach. We just need to hire one.
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November 9th, 2014 at 11:45 AM ^
When he said, "THe finest coaches...." as part of the Michigan Difference..... Maybe we should get back to that tradition....
November 9th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^
He's the only great coach on that whole freaking coaching staff. Literally the only one.
November 9th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^
Mattison is solid. He's not great.
November 9th, 2014 at 12:57 PM ^
"Good" probably describes him better than "great". Remember Rutgers.
November 9th, 2014 at 3:04 PM ^
That Dline is looking pretty solid, but we won't mention who spends a lot of time with them.
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