JH talk blowing up on message board

Submitted by lager86 on

The Rivals message board is blowing up with Harbaugh to UM hype.  Seems like Balas and Helmholdt are convinced he's coming.  I'm having Les Miles flashbacks from 3 years ago.

BigBlue02

December 29th, 2010 at 2:39 PM ^

Jim harbaugh's "signature" win was followed by losses to 5-7 Washington, 5-7 Washington State, and 3-9 Notre Dame. I guess if a signature win makes you a good coach, giving a shitty team its 3rd and final win of the year makes him an awful coach, right? I just want to know if he was such an amazing coach for that signature win, how come he couldn't beat the worst Notre Dame team of my lifetime?

M-Wolverine

December 29th, 2010 at 6:43 PM ^

You've really followed the draft during the 00's, and can really say with a straight face we've had equal or BETTER talent than USC? (or for that matter, anyone has).

M-Wolverine

December 29th, 2010 at 6:57 PM ^

USC - 69 draft picks, 15 1st rounders (1 of which came before 2003).
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<br>Michigan - 50 picks, 9 1st rounders (3 of which came in 2001 before we ever played USC)
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<br>And that's not counting superiority in 2nd and other high ranking picks.

WolvinLA2

December 29th, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^

Well, just this season he beat 3 bowl teams (ND, Arizona, and Washington) and really a fourth in USC who was 8-5.  Not only that, he demolished those bowl teams 37-14, 42-17 and 41-0, respectively.  Those teams weren't exactly world beaters, but they got smoked by Stanford.  How many bowl teams have we beaten in the last three years?  Just sayin'.  In 2009, he beat both USC and Oregon.  In four years, Harbaugh has beaten USC three times.

Whether or not you want RR gone, you can't deny that Harbaugh has done some impressive things in a short time in Palo Alto. 

bluenyc

December 29th, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^

I understand where you are coming from.  I like the beat down of bowl teams, but has he beat down a BCS bowl team.  All numbers can be biased in certain ways. 

I think either RR or JH will be a good coach for us.  Heck, I even think BH can do well here.  I jsut would like to get a move on for next year.  A bowl victory is important but I would like to start working on a B1G championship with RR, JH, BH, or whoever.

WolvinLA2

December 29th, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^

So wait, only coached who beat down BCS teams are good coaches?  Not a whole lot of those around this year.  And although Stanford didn't beat any BCS teams this year (although they still have a chance in their BCS bowl) they beat Oregon in 2009 who went to the Rose Bowl and the 2007 USC team they beat won the Rose Bowl that year. 

So if Stanford wins their bowl, they will have beaten three BCS bowl teams in four years, there are probably not a lof of teams in America who can say that.

bluenyc

December 29th, 2010 at 1:00 PM ^

So wait, only coached who beat down BCS teams are good coaches? 

Did I say this?  I don't think so.  I was responding to your following post :

Well, just this season he beat 3 bowl teams (ND, Arizona, and Washington) and really a fourth in USC who was 8-5.  Not only that, he demolished those bowl teams 37-14, 42-17 and 41-0, respectively.  Those teams weren't exactly world beaters, but they got smoked by Stanford. 

You were pointing out how JH beaten down 3 bowl teams this season.  I was pointing out that so far he has not beaten down a BCS bowl team(UConn).  I was trying to convey that making a statement about beating bowl teams can be misleading because who know what bowls they are going to and how good they really are.  That's similar to saying, we beat a BCS team, so we must be top team. 

I said I understand the point you were making about JH being a good coach.

BigBlue02

December 29th, 2010 at 3:28 PM ^

Can we say the same thing about VaTech if Stanford beats them? I mean, they lost to what amounts to a a DII team so they can't be good. They are really lucky to be in a bcs game

MGoShoe

December 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM ^

...why people can't make the distinction between Div I-FCS and Div II.  They're hardly the same thing.  Furthermore, as a member of the Michigan fanbase, heaping crap on VT for their loss to JMU makes zero sense given the reality of The Horror. 

Virginia Tech is hardly "lucky to be in a BCS game." They are undefeated since their opening losses to BSU (a game that could have gone either way) and JMU (hangover game after a short week) and pretty much dominated the ACC.

OMG Shirtless

December 29th, 2010 at 4:09 PM ^

I know the distinction, but I think people are confused because the name is stupid.  They should just change Div I-FCS to Div II, Div II to Div III and so on. Before, when they were known as D1-A and D1-AA there was still confusion, as high schools in Michigan were at one point classified where Div 1-AA was higher than Div 1-A, similar to the baseball minor league system.

BigBlue02

December 29th, 2010 at 9:04 PM ^

First, you didn't get my point. I wasn't saying Virginia Tech was lucky. I was saying if we aren't counting UConn as anything special even though they were playing better towards the end of the season, winning 5 straight, then should we just not count any wins against anyone who played badly at the beginning of the year? I wasn't trying to compare VaTech and UConn, I was saying it is ridiculous to just say "well, we can't count UConn because they sucked at the beginning of the year. What happens if they beat Oklahoma? Can we then count them?

And when I said "what amounts to a DII team, " I knew it wasn't DII, I was just posting from my phone and couldn't open another window to look up what it was actually called. I can easily make the distinction between them, but if you are asking me to name off every division in all of college football while taking a shit and posting from my phone, I can't do it.

bluenyc

December 29th, 2010 at 3:30 PM ^

I don't know about them being terrible.  But I was arguing against profiling a team just because they are bowl bound or BCS bound.  Just because you are bowl bound doesn't make you a good team, same for BCS this year with UConn. 

Wolvinla was pointing out the fact that JH beat 3 bowl bound teams.  I said that could be misleading, because RR beat a BCS team.  Which would maybe seem more impressive when you find out who that BCS team was.  Basically, I understood and agreed with his point but didn't like the analogy.  Sorry, I guess I explained so poorly that no one understoond what my point was.

JBE

December 29th, 2010 at 11:20 AM ^

That's why you don't do acid with Les Miles.  I know, I know, he is very persuasive, but you gotta just say," No, Les, drugs are bad, M'kay."  But, seriously, Harbaugh does tricky things pre-snap with offensive lineman, and that makes me believe he can beat OSU.