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Jeremy Gallon NFL prospects
The best thing that happened for him was Hoke becoming coach, it allowed him to showcase his talents. He might not be tall or super fast, but WR's at Michigan need to be able to block, run good routes and be tough in general for this staff.
The guy has good hop, great hands, runs well after the catch and is hard to bring down cause of his stocky build, I bet Tom Brady would love to have a guy like Gallon on his team, Jeremy would be able to catch a lot of passes if that was the case.
He might not get drafted high, but he has a chance to catch over 70 or 80 passes IMO and over 1,000 yds receiving this season. Someone will draft him in the middle rounds and he will definitely be playing on Sundays, he's got a lot of talent and ability.
The Pats would take you right about now.
....Print the damn thing!
So are you saying the Pats could probably be the starting quarterback at Michigan State?
He'd probably be the Pats #1 receiver. No worse than #2.
But you could probably say that for most of the top college receivers. The Pats have the worst receiving corp I've seen on an NFL team in maybe decades. How they managed to let that happen is beyond me.
..I was going to say I would take him right now. I'd actually like 3 of him though.
I read plenty of articles on the current UM players projections in 14 draft, so forgive me for not knowing the source of the one that discussed Gallon, but there was a 3rd round grade on him in that article.
I wasn't surprised. He has elite hands and route running ability.
I believe I know which article you are discussing here, although I couldn't find the link. The one that did stand out to me was CBS Sports - their projections for the WR position - have Jeremy Gallon as the #32 wide receiver overall, which in their estimation will equate to 7th round or UFA status.
He reminds me a lot of Heinz Ward. I don't see him going any earlier than a 3rd round pick but I do see him having a good NFL career.
Delicious condiment? Or hard-nosed WR?.....we may never know.
His speed and quickness is not on Steve Smith's level...
Not like Amendola or Welker who are both slot type guys. More "like" Steve Smith of the Panthers. He's definitely shining now. Again, some players will produce better under different circumstances and this current one is great for Gallon. How many players didn't really cut it at Michigan, leave for a year or two and then get drafted? I think our recent Mr. Cox is a great example.
if he is going to make a roster. For your second point, Ryan Mundy also comes to mind...
It's funny, the only two players I can think of who graduated from Michigan, played another season at a different school, then got drafted are Cox and (as the other commenter pointed out) Mundy. Who both play on the same NFL team. Strange.
Admit it - you were just waiting for someone to mention his name!
He was just a transfer.
I suspect he will get drafted in the late rounds or not at all. His size and lack of speed will make teams leery of drafting him. He is a great player and he does everything asked of him at the college level, but that doesn't always translate to an NFL career.
Lack of speed? He's not a 4.3 guy, but I don't see a stark lack of speed. He's just as fast as a lot of receivers in the NFL.
So, if he just has the same speed as a lot of WRs already in the NFL, but lacks the height those same players have, wouldn't that just further prove the point of the comment you were responding to?
No, because it refutes one of his points. If I say "he doesn't lack speed," I'm not sure how that confirms the statement that "he lacks speed."
It confirms the statement that he'll get drafted late or not at all. In your comment, I assumed you were indirectly disagreeing with that. In retrospect, that may have been a stupid assumption on my part, but nonetheless, your comment does further the thought that his draft stock is relatively low.
I think the disconnect is in what part of his comment I was responding to. I didn't mention anything about his size or his draft stock in that comment. I was simply taking issue with the statement that he lacks speed.
Yep, a mistaken assumption on my part.
It also seems like you're suggesting that height and speed are the only factors for where a WR is drafted. You suggested that if he has average speed and below average height, then he'll be drafted late. I don't follow that logic.
Gallon has great hands, great ball skills, and runs great routes. He has great hops and very good run after the catch skills. I'm not saying he's a first rounder, but I am saying that you can't predict a WR's draft spot based on size and speed alone.
No, you cannot predict how well a reciever will perform or where they'll get drafted purely based on height and speed alone. However, it still does play a significant role. I'd imagine GMs are more interested in players with superior speed or height attributes even if they may be a little lacking in other skills (i.e. - hands, route running, hops, etc...) when compared to Gallon. Skills can be improved on, height, and for the most part, speed, cannot. Why risk a high to mid draft pick on someone who is most likely going to be outmatched by NFL dbs?
As we know, especially with Mr.Brady, where you are drafted doesn't necessarily have anything to do with success. That's why I don't mean Gallon any offense when I say that IMO, he's not going to be a big name in this year's draft.
I can't remember the guys name but an NFL draft analyst was on a Chicago radio show yesterday and they asked him who after two weeks has made him think they might be better than projected before the season and he said Jeremy Gallon. I can't remember what his name was but he was from a major media outlet. Damn early morning brain failing me.
Whoever takes Devin at QB should find a way to get their hands on Gallon, although hopefully that will be made more difficult by them going in different years. Chemistry!
He's about the same size as guys like Ace Sanders and Tavon Austin, not as fast, but Gallon can jump like he's 6'-2". I think he gets drafted in the 2-4th round if he keeps these numbers up.
I think Jeremy plays better/bigger than his measurables. He finds ways to get open and is very good in space. Seems like at least a marginal NFL guy to me.
Stedman Bailey. Both are smallish WR who plays bigger than their size and is more of a outside WR. Doesn't have explosive speed but has nice quickness and suddeness to get open in route running. Very good hands to make catches in traffic.
Bailey got drafted at 3rd round by the Rams. If Gallon can continue his production, I think he'll get drafted at 4th round range IMO.
Fifth round pick if he stays healthy and produces in a similar fashion for the remainder of the season.
I think a lot of people in this thread are claiming he doesn't have good speed, which seems odd. He certainly isn't a burner, but he's got just as good speed as most WRs that enter the NFL draft. He's also extremely quick in and out of cuts, despite not being extremely quick with the ball in his hands.
Lack of height and elite top end speed will drop him, and he may be moved around a bit in the NFL, likely to the slot eventually. But I think between 4-6 is the right range if he keeps up his production, with round 5, as you said, being the most likely.
Fifth round, sounds about right. Get out of my head.
You know, maybe I've just brainwashed you. Maybe you've finally come over to the dark side where Mike Cox is pretty good and J.T. Floyd is bad.
Mike Cox is pretty good.
First act like you hate each other, then come aroudn to agreeing with each other, then fall in love and watch everyone follow (both for sports reasons and for the inspiring, engaging drama of it all). Brilliant Magnus/TIMMMAAY, brilliant. Thought the fact that you have like tens of thousands of posts combined is a bit sad.
It looks like I'm in 7th place right now. If we added our points together, I would vault to 5th. All these damn mods are racking up the points...
This guy burned Alabama and South Carolina for 100+ yards. There is a reason he gets wide open on his hitch routes. Do you all see the cushion he is given by ELITE cover corners?
Gallon is not a burner. He gets open by running great routes and having excellent body control.
he's a great leaper and is one of the best I've ever seen at making adjustments to the ball. Oh, and he's also got excellent hands. I'd definitely say Gallon will be drafted and will make a team's roster.
Will come down to his combine performance. If he runs well, he'll get drafter in the 2-4 round range. I think he will be prepared with the correct form and starting stance. Maybe Barwis will train him.
He doesn't need to be a slot guy. This guy has been a damn good receiver for over a decade, without any kind of "3rd receiver" tag, and he's 5'9":
except faster. Steve isnt a legit 5'9 either so that works in Gallon's favor. However, Smith ran a 4.39 at the combine. If Jeremy does that (and he wont by the way), he's a sure fire 2nd round pick. However, I think we all expect mid 4.5 at best...
He has a 40 time listed (I guess from HS camps? He went to the Army All-Star game) at 4.42, which is virtually indistinguishable from Smith's.
How "fake" that is, I don't know.
Anyway, I agree that I'd be shocked if he was picked in the 2nd or 3rd round, like Smith was. I'm merely saying that his height doesn't limit him to playing in the slot - it appears as if many of his assets actually lend themselves to the outside.
Santana Moss, De'vry Henderson, Laverneous Coles, Lee Evans have all had reputable NFL careers despite being under 6'0".
The guy may only be 185lbs, but he was power cleaning over 300lbs before he even got into a college weight room. He's a baby ox.
Seriously? That's pretty amazing. He weighed like 170 at the time (high school), right? Wow. That's an explosive athlete.
He may not leap off the page at the combine because of his measurables, but he'll find a nice spot to land. Reminds me of Jeremy Kerley.
If he runs the reported time and can catch, run routes and spin like he does I'd say he'd get drafted and catch on.
Two years ago I was tailgating in the victors parking lot and there were a bunch of 9 to 13 year old kids playing pick up football. Gallon came walking by and they started talking to him. It didn't look like he knew them at all, but he ended up playing pick up football with them in the parking lot for about 45 minutes. I don't know if that helps hm get into the NFL, but seems like a pretty cool guy to do that.
Tailgating at a...football game? And a football player played pickup football in the parking lot for 45 minutes? That seems counterproductive.
Even with the /s. Just no.
my Golden Tate like receiver, in the nfl though at his size he needs a short quick pass play system to be successful imo.
Or a group of replacement refs, amirite?
I had was up against Golden Tate. I missed the playoffs by one game (and had the tie breaker). It still hurts.
Look at Tavon Austin (the top WR pick in last year's draft, going in the Top 10). Gallon is not nearly as quick as Austin, but they're basically the same size and Gallon has fantastic hands/body control.
As mentioned earlier, the Patriots would have KILLED for somebody like Gallon last night. With the NFL basically eliminating hits by DBs across the middle, you don't have to be Calvin Johnson or Dez Bryant sized (though that is always nice) to be a very effective NFL receiver.
Thus, I think Gallon will go in the Top 100 picks. He's had huge games against big-time opponents, so he's building up great "tape" for scouts to drool over.
I agree that the Patriots could have used someone like Gallon last night (that Patriots offense was ugly), but not only is Austin REALLY fast, but he adds the dimension of being able to return punts and kickoffs, and perhaps play running back, run reverses, etc.
Granted, you aren't saying that Gallon should be drafted in the first round, but he doesn't have anywhere near that same talent as a runner. I wouldn't want him returning punts in the NFL, running out of the backfield, or even running reverses, because he's not that super-fast jitterbug player. If I were an NFL offensive coordinator, I'd want to use Gallon in the slot, on the outside, and perhaps as a part-time kickoff returner. Personally, I don't think teams usually need to draft a guy like that in the third round.
I'm just thinking a guy like Austin, as quick and versatile as he is, wouldn't have been a Top 10 pick even a few years ago due to his size. Now, b/c of rule changes and offensive schemes changing, his size isn't as much of a factor.
Thus, I figure with Gallon, who has good speed (though again, nothing like Austin's electric quicks), great hands, and great body control, will be more valuable than we might think (i.e., 3rd rd instead of 5th).
We'll see -- he'll probably go in the 4th round to split the difference.
Ask yourself when the last time you remember Gallon dropping a pass... I cannot remember.... he will find a home in the slot in the NFL... he reminds me of Peter Warrick. Forget his return game... he will play the slot, and thrive.
He did drop one against ND. Granted, he had a db draped over his back, but the ball did hit him in the hands.
He reminds me a bit of Deion Branch who was drafted in the 2nd round, though I think coming out of college Branch had a bit more top end speed/quickness. In his prime though, Branch was mainly a shifty guy who ran great routes, had great hands, and blocked well despite his 5'9 frame. He did that on the outside as well, like Gallon thus far in college, not in the slot.
Get him with a QB who really values precise route running and good hands over pure size/speed and I think Gallon's got a quality NFL future. Like Branch in Seattle though, if he doesn't end up in the right system or with the right QB, goings could be pretty rough.
All's I'm saying. The two are similarly sized with similar speed.
You said he's not a burner and then listed every good attribute Gallon has. You know what you didn't list? Speed...
I see a nice career for Gallon at the slot. He has great hands and makes catches through contact.
After watching last night's game I've never been more convinced that Gallon's abilities are needed on an NFL field