Jehuu Caulcrick @JehuuCaulcrick 9m
I don't understand y everyone is making a big deal over Arian Foster saying he got money while he was in college. News flash We all did.
Jehuu Caulcrick admits that he and his teammates took money while at MSU
Jehuu Caulcrick @JehuuCaulcrick 9m
Ugh. On the one hand, there's some serious Sparty-Freude here.
On the other, there are times I am wary to jump on the graves of other programs, because you never know what dirt might come out of your own. All it takes is one guy...
George Campbell and Jabril Peppers are probably expecting more than just scholarship money.
Not sure how you make that jump
According to RCMB he is referring to the food/clothing stipends that athletes get.
In their defense, only one of them actually said that. The rest are more realistic.
This will definitely lead to some serious repercussions
I fully expect the NCAA go come down HARD on MSU. I'm talking wins taken off the books, B1G championship banners removed, rose bowl appearances vaca- yeah, I can't even finish this joke.
only if there was any extra stretching.
Yeah, I have no idea how deep this stuff is in college sports. Every team may very well do it but it takes some kind of stupid person to tweet that.
if he was actually referring to the completely NCAA-legal stipend money he got, and he is too stupid to realize the difference between illegal funds and what he got. that would be classic STAEE
...Foster's original comments didn't seem too clear on that distinction either. He made it sound like he would have been starving to death on zero cash.
Stanley McClover flat out admitted to Real Sports with Bryant Gumble in 2011 that he accepted a cash payment from an MSU booster during a recruiting visit, and the NCAA did nothing. Don't expect anything to come of this either. MSU is too small of a program for the NCAA or the national press to waste their time with.
key word: "cash"
Notoriously hard to track and therefore prove.
>>MSU is too small of a program for the NCAA or the national press to waste their time with.
That is exactly why the NCAA might do something.
They would never voluntarily do something to a program that matters (financially).
Which is kinda like saying that the NCAA doesn't care if a program pays for players...
... as long as the NCAA gets its share of cash, too.
MSU has boosters? Like, people who care enough to pay players with their own money?
who this guy is... is it outside or inside the NCAA statute of limitations?
The only thing I remember about Jehu Caulcrick was Valenti's rant: "Jehu Caulcrick was a bowling ball! Notre Dame didn't want any part of him! Yet Javon Ringer saw all the carries in the second half! EXPLAIN IT!"
How long ago did he graduate? Does the statute of limitations apply? I see a trend coming of former players admitting to benefits after the statutes of limitations pass.
Well the msu collapse vs nd was in 2006 ao at least 7 years ago.
While I was there with the recruits for that game some drunken Sparty students threatened to kick the shit out of us. They really know how to entertain their guests.
Really don't think we can count on RCMB to parse this statement for us. They aren't exactly a font of credibility.
Caulcrick was a very good running back.
He would be getting carries for Michigan if he was here right now.
Yeah right. Fitz ran for a buck tonight bro.
Caulcrick ran for 4.5 ypc and 39 TDs over his four years.
I hate MSU too, but let's not pretend Caulcrick was some obscure useless weirdo.
Thomas Rawls > Jay who?
I believe his last season was 2007.
Thank you Jehuu. Now I can listen to some State schadenfreude on the radio during the commute this week instead of Michigan panic talk.
I guess I belong in a tree.
WHAT IF I AM
handshakes your nuts
Nobody handshakes my nuts.
Okay, this was a good one. I'm sad I didn't see it first.
But didn't put it all together. Bravo. Needed that laugh.
I do not want anyone to handshake my nuts. Sounds uncomfortable
embezzelment scandal at an MSU booster club a couple years, money missing as in thousands of dollars. Kind of got swept under the rug, I'm sure this was the source.
I personally do not believe a single D1 program is clean with regards to giving extra benefits to athletes. Too many nice cars, nice clothes, nice gagets.
They couldn't account for 50/50 raffle funds. There has been a lot of smoke with that program, but when it comes down to it...nobody cares enough about MSU to do anything about it.
I did not take any money while in college.
I didn't either and that's why I left early to pursue a job in the auto industry
I always just assumed everyone who lives in East Lansing was getting some sort of extra benefit to voluntarily live there.
Do they help with student loan payments?
Like a "hardship stipend" that state department staffers get when they're posted in war zones?
because they're sure not buying much on the recruiting trail
he's ever done in his life i bet. #yesI'mbeingajudgmentaldick
Oh it's okay he totally got hacked, totally, definitely...
I think it's a staged hack. Everyone says their twitter got hacked, but is anybodies twitter every really hacked? If they are, it's posting viruses. Not supposed NCAA infractions
These days people don't know the difference between getting actually hacked and forgetting to log out on someone else's computer when you're done checking your twitter.
That's my take. Guy has his phone out, starts tweeting. Gives it to someone and they write something else.
By definition, hacking is any unauthorized access to a computer, file or online account. Doing so through a script, spyware or some sort of algorithm program is just the way everyone likes to think of hacking. So, as stupid as people many sound when they say they've hacked when they had just ended up leaving their account up on a computer, they're technically correct.
Why does it matter if these kids get some cash on the side? Perspective. Did they murder, rape, or rob someone? Who gives a fuck what some poor black kids got? The school uses their bodies for four years and then they dump them after they "earn" a degree that was more times than not handed to them because almost all of their teachers make consessions when grading their papers (talking to TAs from UofM is not recommended if you can't stomach the truth). If they're elite players the story is a little different as far as being taken care of by the team in the future. These kids need to be selfish and get what they can while they can. Work their asses off in school and expand their minds and focus more on that than anything else. It's a business no matter how much they tell you it's not. Wise up.
Not all of us got scholarships. Most of us are still paying off student loans and would gladly take 4-5 years of paid tuition plus free meals. I understand the amount of money the university makes off of their merch but it still doesn't compare to a degree.
You would gladly take it? Sorry to break it to you, but you suck at football. These kids have a lot more to offer to the athletic department than you do.
I meant academic too. I know i'm not good at football. You could try not being a jerk. :((((
I have absolutely no idea if you are being serious or not. I'm guessing you are being "truthful" for whatever that means.
Athletes definitely get preferential treatment; that doesn't surprise anyone. And the collegiate athletic system that treats them negatively does exist, but (1) not all football players are poor or black, and (2) they also receive numerous benefits most other people don't. They get access to great schools, connections, and life lessons that few others are granted. It isn't a perfect system, but the kids on the fringe academically who get a chance at college because of athletics may well benefit immensely from it if they try. And by and large I think most college teams want their kids to do well in the classroom as well as on the field.
Finally, I will agree that players getting compensation isn't the be-all, end-all of crimes, but at the same time they are told explicitly that their scholarship and eligiblity prohibits taking money, and that is a rule they have to abide by. It may be a dumb rule, but so is parking on the street in my neighborhood Wednesdays between 9:00-10:30 am for cleaning. And if you do park there while ignoring the numerous signs on the street, you get a ticket.
I wouldn't make the comparison to parking on a street. If you want me to explain why I will. The majority of college football players are black. Are all of them poor? No, but a case could be made for well over 50%. Too many corollaries to hidden slavery for me but then again most people are slaves, it just depends on what to.
Yes, if you drastically redefine a word to encompass lots of people, it will be true for lots of people. Interestingly, this is also true of every word ever. You're not profound.
Maybe not, but I was never trying to be. I'd also recommend looking up the definition. You shot yourself in the foot on that one.
Everybody kills people, murders people. Of course they did.
Regardless of what he meant to say, this is probably true at every school to varying degrees. No reason to laugh at Sparty for it.
I'm not laughing about him taking money. I'm laughing that he is dumb enough to tweet it out to the masses. There are grapefruit in a bowl on my counter smarter than Jehuu Caulcrick.
I know of a somewhat smaller (former) Big East school were it for a fact happened for basketball (not giving anymore details because it's not my place to do so). And by fact, I mean unsubstantiated hearsay as I heard it from a college athlete at one school who had heard it slip from the very well known athlete who was allegedly receiving the money at another school. Anyways, this can literally go on anywhere and I really don't want to even imagine at how many schools it actually does.
I have a friend that's working towards becoming a sports agent and spent all last week hanging out with Tajh Boyd and said at one meal at a restaurant people were just laying 100s on the table. He said he picked up about a thousand dollars in an hour. I don't know how common this is across the country, but I think we all can assume it's pretty common at the big time schools.
I don't want to be naive about this and blindly assume that Michigan was different in this regard. But seeing the athletes on campus when I was in school during the late Carr years, I just don't believe these guys were anywhere beyond where any of the rest of us were. There weren't flashy cars and clothes, fancy jewelry or ostentatious spending.
These guys may have had their girlfriends sign them in for evening film screenings now and then, or may not have gone to class all the time, but this wasn't a team in fur-trimmed jackets and tricked-out cars. That's just not what was going on.
Frankly, I don't think Michigan State was any different. If there was really any serious cheating going on, don't you think the results would have actually shown on the field in a dramatic way? They've shown improvement since JLS, but not blatant cheating improvement. As much as I want to hate on Sparty, if you ask me, there probably isn't anything here.
Now, if we're talking OSU... We all know the score there.
College football is filthy, it's essentially rotten to the core because of the charade of amatuerism. Hell, Rickey Seals-Jones father had a chapter in The System about how his son was offered 6 figure pay days from schools, along with perks like season tickets and a steady, off the books stipend for him and his family. Now, I hate to trust just one source, but it's not like it's an isolated incident. From Oregon to Alabama, Okie State to Miami, it seems more and more major programs are caught with players who took payment from boosters.
That leaves us in a tough spot, either Michigan somehow still manages to pull in very talented players that, at the age of 18, are willing to give all of that up, AND manage to avoid that temptation for 3-5 years, or it's probably happening at Michigan as well.
Unfortunately and obviously, Michigan is home to the most well documented paid college athletes story (not by members of the athletic dept. directly of course, but still...).
True, but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever there was ever any connection between the Ed Martin scandal and Michigan Football. Ed Martin was a basketball booster and connected with athletes through basketball alone. Period.
And there's no such thing as football boosters?
Sure there are, but they were never implicated in the aforementioned largest financial scandal in NCAA history.
And remember, "booster" in itself is not a term that describes someone breaking the rules. It's a formal term for pretty much anyone who buys tickets, donates to a university, or in any other way supports or represents an athletic program in a tangible way. A good chunk of us around here are "boosters" by definition. Ed Martin was a booster whose sport of choice was basketball. His interest and activities as a booster, however, were pretty egregiously against the rules.
Thanks for the welcome dose of hilatiry. You "sky is falling" guys with your "charade of amatuerism [sic]" sctick always make me laugh.
The fact of the matter is that you don't have a clue as to what is actually happening to athletes on the overwhelming majority of campuses. Are there some cheaters? Sure. We've had 'em at michigan, too. Does the existance of cheating mean that the system is a charade? No, no more than the existance of financial fraud means that the US economy is a charade.
But please continue to be emo and silly. I enjoy it.
The Michigan athletic department hacked his twitter as a follow up to the skywriting.