Jeff DelVerne's Tweets on the Scrimmage

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Jeff DelVerne's Tweets on the Scrimmage

Former Michigan kicker Jeff DelVerne was at the scrimmage and tweeted these observations...

I was at the U of M scrimmage today and they look very organized! Fitz Tousaint was the star for me.. Defense looks amazing

Denard is the real deal in this offense.. Seems to be easier to scramble in this offense cause defense doesn't expect it

I would say that the coaching staff today spent a lot of time on tackling, technique and teaching (less ranting). Black @ DE looks quick

Demens is baaaadddd to the bone

Kicking game looked solid! This freshman kicker has a lot of swagger/confidence and I couldn't believe it. Going to be a good year

I was shocked to see the growth from last year to spring to now! Very sharp on both sides of the football.

 

Needless to say, the part about Fitz made me feel all giddy. 

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August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 PM | I like (Score:2 Normal)
Idaho Wolverine
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I like what I hear.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:52 PM | (Score:5 Normal)
Chi-Blue
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well we should for sure be able to trust the analysis of the kicking game which may be the most important news we could hear. the off and def will continue to improve as the year goes on, but with the kicker either you got it or u dont.

August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 PM | WOO (Score:5 Normal)
ILwolverine
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FITZ!

This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan

August 20th, 2011 at 10:10 PM | Agree (Score:4 Normal)
TVBLUE
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I've always had high hopes for him.

 
August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 PM | For you who don't know... (Score:5 Funny)
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Bad=Good in this case.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:16 PM | Damn kids with all their (Score:5 Normal)
Stephen Y
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Damn kids with all their backwards slang and such

Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. - Ephesians 6:11

August 21st, 2011 at 11:11 AM | Yeah.. (Score:1)
JD_UofM_90
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And you dang kids, get the heck off my lawn

“Oh Yeah, what he said forgodsakes...”  -   -         

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August 20th, 2011 at 9:46 PM | Does this mean Fitzgerald Toussaint is a real person? (Score:4 Normal)
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Not sure if I believe it yet. 

August 20th, 2011 at 9:47 PM | That knowledge (Score:1)
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is still awaiting confirmation.

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August 20th, 2011 at 10:36 PM | kinda like vunter slaush (Score:2 Funny)
coldnjl
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kinda like vunter slaush

August 20th, 2011 at 9:48 PM | Ahh beaten by a minute, well (Score:2)
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Ahh beaten by a minute, well played. 

" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."

August 20th, 2011 at 11:04 PM | Are you sure... (Score:5 Normal)
Firstbase
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...those tweets weren't from Coach Jackson?

August 20th, 2011 at 9:47 PM | Who is this Fitzgerald (Score:5 Normal)
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Who is this Fitzgerald Toussaint you speak of? I was convinced he was a figment our collective imaginations?*

*except for when he won the Heisman for me in NCAA 11. 

" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."

August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 PM | i won 2 with him (Score:1)
maizeandblue21
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he is the best back on the team with the lowest rating but after a good year he becomes like a 97

But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING

August 20th, 2011 at 10:24 PM | He is the RB who is as (Score:2 Normal)
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He is the RB who is as powerful as Chris Perry and Anthony Thomas....but faster.

uh...no wait...that was someone else... quick get Fred Jackson on the phone!

August 20th, 2011 at 9:50 PM | if we go undefeated (Score:-1 Redundant)
August 20th, 2011 at 9:54 PM | No, (Score:1)
ILwolverine
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it will be bigger.

This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan

August 20th, 2011 at 9:53 PM | If we go undefeated, there (Score:5 Normal)
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If we go undefeated, there will be a Mardi Gras party in Hoke Arbor.

Festivities will begin on the corner of Hoke and Hoke, right outside of Hoke Auditorium.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 PM | That would be quite (Score:4 Normal)
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That would be quite confusing...but it'd be worth it!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

August 20th, 2011 at 10:58 PM | I played concerts (Score:4 Normal)
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at Hoke Auditorium...memories, memories, memories...

Abort, Retry, Fail?

August 21st, 2011 at 6:17 AM | Annexation (Score:5 Normal)
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Yspilanti would become East Hoke Arbor in the confusion.....

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

August 21st, 2011 at 1:40 PM | No need to annex (Score:1)
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We already have a protectorate over Ypsi.  /imperialism

Abort, Retry, Fail?

August 21st, 2011 at 2:00 PM | Vassal States (Score:2 Normal)
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This makes Saline, Dexter, Scio Township, Barton Hills, Pittsfield Township, etc....all vassal states of Hoke Arbor? I see potential here....

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

August 21st, 2011 at 3:03 PM | +1 (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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for "Hoke Arbor."  That's got to be the funniest thing I've seen all week.

As for the vassal states, we should grant baronial titles to famous Wolverines and give them gold scepters to wave about as they rule over these communities with a maize-and-blue fist of justice.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

August 21st, 2011 at 8:41 PM | For Example.... (Score:1)
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Dan Dierdorf shall now be styled as "The Baron Dierdorf, Protector Of The Whitmore Lake And Warren Road Area"

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

August 20th, 2011 at 10:13 PM | Now that's just cruel to the (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
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Now that's just cruel to the residents of State Street.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:53 PM | Ugh (Score:5 Normal)
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Anyone else rooting for a 12-1 season now?

They no longer call me Bisbiño

August 21st, 2011 at 1:41 PM | Tear gas guns at the ready! (Score:1)
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Ready...aim...

Abort, Retry, Fail?

August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 PM | Must. Tame. Optimism. But (Score:3 Normal)
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Must. Tame. Optimism.

But in all seriousness, gotta take these things with a grain of salt. Don't get me wrong, it's better than hearing "Team looked lost", but it was just one scrimmage.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
August 21st, 2011 at 12:13 AM | I agree completely.  It's (Score:1)
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I agree completely.  It's always bitter sweet to here good things about the team, players, and recruits.  It's awesome because they're supposedly doing well; it's no so awesome when they don't perform to their hype, your fantasy based on the compliments, or turn out to be a 3 star recruit who was suppose to be borderline 5 star.

August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 PM | Here's what... (Score:5 Normal)
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...Desmond Howard had to say:

Michigan's scrimmage..they are not close to where they wanna go, but very far from where they were.

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August 20th, 2011 at 9:56 PM | Hmmm... (Score:5 Normal)
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Desmond Howard.... or Jeff DelVerne... Whose opinion should I listen to...

 

DelVerne.  I want my delusions of grandeur to continue.

Now lets go win the National Championship!

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August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 PM | Alright, well my decipherment (Score:4 Normal)
One Inch Woody ...
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Alright, well my decipherment of this post is that if we want to win the B1G on a consistent basis we need to develop elite-level consistency, but the scrimmage has shown that we can acheive elite-level play in flashes on both sides of the ball but need to get more consistent. We are a far cry from the middle-of-the-pack team we had last year. I'm probably taking it a lot more positively than he intended.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:06 PM | Damn... (Score:3 Normal)
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Damn...you turned 160 characters into that. Well played, sir.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

August 21st, 2011 at 7:44 AM | Nah, you're not taking it too (Score:2 Normal)
cbuswolverine
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Nah, you're not taking it too far.  I'm 100% certain that if twitter allowed more characters this is exactly what Desmond would have said, verbatim.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:25 PM | Desmond...speaking in (Score:0 Trolling)
August 21st, 2011 at 8:01 AM | Desmond's Tweet (Score:2 Normal)
LSAClassOf2000
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It is the same thing I say on the Frank Borman Expressway every time we visit family in Chicago. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 PM | Hoke & Co. must be using... (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Miracle Grow!

August 20th, 2011 at 9:53 PM | Less "ranting."  Seems like (Score:4 Normal)
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Less "ranting."  Seems like this has been echoed by quite a few people so far in the fall and also the spring.  

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

August 20th, 2011 at 9:57 PM | I've noticed that thread (Score:4 Normal)
Wonk
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I've noticed that thread throughout a lot of analysis too.

If the difference between Hoke and RR is brought up so much, what was a standard RichRod practice like? I know from gamedays that he looked violently disgusted at times on the sidelines, so I imagine it was something like that, but probably worse since he wasn't on national TV.

August 20th, 2011 at 10:07 PM | (Score:5 Normal)
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i went to michigan coaches clinic back in 2003 and 2005. lloyd and staff were always polite and when we viewed practice he and staff coached them and they ran a basic practice. when i went to coaches clinic in 2008...1st yr on job...i thought it was a will ferrel saturday night live skit the way he and his staff screamed and yelled and cussed at all the players. i thought to myself if this is how he is in front of coaches tht might send players to him...whats it like when no one is watching. i gave him the benefit of the doubt becuz i herd bo was like that...but it did give me a bad vibe.

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August 20th, 2011 at 10:13 PM | It's become increasingly (Score:5 Normal)
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It's become increasingly clear that RR spent too much time berating the team. (Rosenberg got that part right, at least.) And, yes, RR's body language was too often negative. 

August 20th, 2011 at 10:37 PM | detail (Score:3 Normal)
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I've not surprised to hear that RichRod had problems with impulse control. You alluded to his sideline demeanor, which was often unmistakably cloudy.

Still ...

I don't mean to go all Section 1 on you, but did you have to give even a drop of praise to that @#$% Rosenberg? I'm at least 11% serious. Those articles went too far and hurt the program unnecessarily.

"..."

August 20th, 2011 at 10:39 PM | Yes yelling a lot is bad. /s (Score:5 Normal)
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Those boys need positive encouragement! Bah. This meme wasn't legitimate when Rosenberg wrote it or now. Both styles of coaching can work, it depends upon coach and players. There is nothing superior in either approach- great coaches have used both.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

August 21st, 2011 at 12:33 PM | Actually (Score:5 Normal)
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You should read Martha Nussbaum's writings on shame. Destructive shame, which would be caused by too much negative reinforcement and not enough positive reinforcement, would have detrimental effects on a team. Constructive shame, on the other hand, has positive effects. That's what the current staff seems to be causing in the players. Long story short, just yelling at your players isn't going to result in anything positive. It may work in the immediate future, but will come back to bite you in the ass. I'm sure any teachers or coaches can back that up.

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August 21st, 2011 at 2:43 PM | I believe Nick Saban yells (Score:2)
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I believe Nick Saban yells like an asshole.  I'd trust that his coaching methods work pretty well and don't "bite him in the ass."  

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August 21st, 2011 at 9:51 PM | Hmm, I wonder if Bo read Martha? (Score:1)
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I'm sure Nussbaum would have much to teach him.

To be clear, I'm not saying any yelling is good, just that a blanket statement like above that lots of yelling is counter-productive to player development is not correct. Great coaches can come in the yelling and non-yelling varieties. 

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

August 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 AM | I think you mean Positive Punishment (Score:2)
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I think you mean Positive Punishment instead of Negative Reinforcement.  Negative Reinforcement is still reinforcement not punishment.  Negative Reinforcement strenghtens a behavior because a negative condition is stopped or avoided as a consequence of the behavior.

Negative Reinforcement is often confused with Punishment because of the word "negative".  However, they are very different.

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August 20th, 2011 at 11:03 PM | Nah (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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Some coaches yell more than others. Bo Pelini yells a lot. Brian Kelly yells even more.  Bill Parcells made grown men cry.  It's a perfectly accepted and widely practiced form of coaching and motivation.

His problem wasn't berating players. And his problem certainly wasn't "negative body language;" there's no such thing as football coach feng shui. His problem was losing.  But he's gone, so let's stop making comparisons and saying that the new way is better because the old way led to losing. Hoke is heavier than RR, but that doesn't mean that having a lighter coach was our problem.  Mattison doesn't have GERG's flowing mane, but that doesn't mean that beautiful hair was bad for the football team. 

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August 20th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | There is a certainbody (Score:5 Normal)
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There is a certainbody langauge though.  I attended some RR coached practices during his last season here and whenever the defense messed up he'd get mad.  The defeatist "We're so fucked" kind of mad, not the "light a fire under your asses" kind of mad.  Also some unpleasant yelling between him and some assistants (including the one of the flowing mane).  The players can tell when the coach has no confidence in them.  

Mattison will definitely bark at people but it's much clearer he's doing to get them to play with emotion, not just because he's yelling out of frustation.  

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