Jarron Jones commits to Notre Dame.
a scary dline the next couple of years, huge loss for PennSt
I didn't want him anyway
The concern is not if we wanted him. The concern is how good they are going to be after last years d-line recruits and the guys they have gotten so far this year. We're fine with our DT's with Pipkins and hopefully O'Brien but they're going to be pretty scary going forward.
If only we could bring in the best O-line class in the nation...
Wasn't looking at it that way but totally see that now and agree.
I was just making fun of those types of fans who when a high ranked player commits elsewhere immediately disregard him as good or someone they wanted.
Good thing our OL recruiting is going well so far, and should even get better with the addition of Banner/Garnett/Diamond/etc
I sorta missed that thought too about how good our OL class is. Just got caught up in thinking about the DE's they got last year and the DT's this year.
So I guess they view him more highly than Schutt?
yeah, I think he was #1 on the board going back to when he was offered, I mean outside of guys like goldman who never gave ND a look
Pretty swell class lining up; that front seven will be terrifying in a few years.
More than content at this point, it will be interesting to see what this does to Armstead. Could use another solid OLB still.
Fuck Notre Dame
Eh, not really surprised. I'm thinkin' they should switch to a 4-3 in the future. They've got some good D-linemen, and their effectivness seems limited in the 3-4.
The defense played as much "even" as "odd" last season. I think they plan to continue that.
Their DL is gonna be sick the next few seasons. Doesn't help that our OL will be thin/young as well.
Magnuson, Kallis, Braden, Bars, and Stacey are the same year as Jones. And we'll likely add at least one more elite player on the OL. They'll be no younger than Jones.
Our OL is going to be pretty sick. I don't mind if they build up, as long as we build up better.
They pulled in a nasty DL this past recruiting year as well. Plus, DL are more likely to contribute early than OL since most RS.
Kelly seems to really be recruiting heavily on the defensive side of the ball. Almost like he realizes that defense was the doom of Rodriguez and Weis. Plus he can put together a solid offense with less heavily recruited players. So he makes up for his defensive shortcomings by stacking the defense with good talent.
Exactly. He's on the record saying that he can manufacture offense, but needs to recruit defense. If only our last coach thought the same way. And hopefully our current coaches recruit similarly to their strenghts/weaknessess.
Well, at least they are doing with with the O-Line/QB. It remains to be seen if they can bring in some top notch RBs/WRs.
wow I thought he was a PSU lock good get for ND
ND says no to Schutt and yes to Jones (lower rated player on some sites)
Michigan says no to Schutt and is willing to say yes to O'brien (lower rated player)
This seems odd to me.
rankings aren't all they're made out to be. When your coaching staff is happy, I could care little of what rivals grades the kid out as.
I like Jones because he was top 3 at least on ND's board from the moment he was offered; I have no idea if he's a 3, 4 or 5 star on any of the recruiting sites until I read Ace's post on the weekend.
Hey, not very familiar with your D, but where are all these DT's and DE's projecting? If I'm not mistaken, you run a base 3-4? Are y'all going for ridiculous depth, or are they looking to run more situational 4 down linemen stuff? Also, how many schollies do you guys have to give out this year?
in this class - or ~ 7 more guys if every commit holds (which is just by the odds a slim chance). ND mostly looking for skill guys now and 1-2 more OL.
The DE thing is already sorting itself out as a lot of the DEs listed last year arent really DEs (Ishaq Williams, Ben Councell, Tony Springman, and I think either Rabasa or Carrico) there was a mix of DT, OLB and OL in that group. This year they seem to be filling the gap on true DL types, but I'm not sure all will end up at DE. I think thats part of the approach, to just take a lot of good athletes that can grow into/out of a number of positions in the front 7 or go to the OL.
Some of it too is that ND wants to have a DL where they can regularly rotate 6-7 guys, so you will see a blend of "every down" type guys, and some situation rush or space eating specialists in there also.
Lurking has most of it up there but there are 2 dlineman right now, Day and Jones. In ND's defense they view Day is an end who can shift inside if needed and Jones is a nose who can shift outside if needed
Schutt was on ESPN2 yesterday(?). He looked like a fat, slow tub of goo
More like Notre Lame
Michigan's still rated more highly than ND on every site but Scout, which seems to have a hard-on for ND recruits. Could change going forward as I have no idea who their likely commits are going forward.
to Notre dame ?
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