Jalen Rose tells all - recruiting

women at a party who just want to party vs. grad assistants for hire at the Rick Pitino School of Pimp management. 

Not really news its not hard to see how Kentucky and Louisville get there one year players from.

Holy shit some of you are self-righteous. A 17-year old high school kid being fawned over by schools from coast-to-coast wants to capitalize on his 'fame' by going to parties and getting laid by college girls? You're absolutely insane if you think this doesn't still happen at EVERY FREAKIN' SCHOOL in the country. It's a thousand-mile difference between going to college parties with a player-host and what Louisville did.

All this makes me wish I had been a D1-caliber athlete in high school instead of a dorky solid-but-unspectacular hockey dman forced to play for a different high school.

I went to a small Christian college.  One weekend when there was a group of prospective students, we went up to them and handed out flyers to invite them to "Naked Bible study"  at one of the dorms.  The fake flyers we printed up were pretty funny, but you have to get creative when attending a college like that. 

Is this Jalen's way of trying to stay relevant?

Oh man, my image of the recruitment of the Fab 5 just got shattered. -_-

What does Craig James have to say about all of this?

 I wonder what advice he gives to students at his Leadership academy when they go on recruiting visits.

I don't think this is new for him to say. I think he has said this on a podcast or something before that I heard. Not a big deal. The coaches don't have to put most of this together. The players will set a lot of these things up.

He might make people cringe occasionally, but Jalen's done a lot for the betterment of underprivileged kids and, IMO, is an all-around good ambassador for the University. He definitely loves Michigan and the basketball program, which is pretty apparent from this recent quote:

On having a future role assisting in the program:
"I can do anything they ask me to do, because I’m that committed to the university and I really want to see them be successful. That would have to be something initiated from their end, but I’m here regardless.”

(from a freep article, so here's this instead - http://www.ooyuz.com/geturl?aid=8596147)

Sorry to say it, but Jalen is desperate for attention. He will talk always no matter what. I mean it happens everywhere but he is the one always talking no matter how that affects the school.

"if I'm not getting laid, I'm not coming."

 

so as a 17 year old kid he never masturbated? Obviously lying

That's what I told the Physics chair on my campus visit. They learned the hard way after I chose microbiology. Although, I didn't get laid under any circumstance.

Some day someone will write a good enough tell all with enough proof to name names and be specific.  The average fan has no idea what happens on recruiting trips, and I'm not even talking SEC, I'm talking the Big Ten.  These kids might be with their parents during the day visit, but for overnight visits they are usually at these types of parties no matter what school.  It's why so many of these kids decide to take all of their official visits.  They're 17 year old kids who probably haven't seen boobs much less gotten laid.  If I would have had the opportunity at that age I would have taken recruiting visits every single weekend.

I'm not surprised at what Jalen shares. Anyone who is shocked by what Jalen said has been living under a rock. It doesn't particularly bother me. And also, given Jalen being a storyteller, and having a podium, I'm not that surprised he shares the story either.

I do think there are a lot less kids having sex at 17 than we assume. You can google the numbers as easily as I can. But somewhere between 60 - 75 percent of high school juniors aren't getting any. In other words, it is normal. I'm not posting about morality, or what is right or wrong, although I have my own beliefs on that. Just saying, not everyone is doing it. 

The problem is generalizing from one's personal experience to the whole group. There are a bunch of users who have shared they were sexually active at 17. There are undoubtedly a ton who weren't. I was one of them (the ton who weren't). The reality is that I wasn't a stud athlete, and I didn't have girls throwing themselves at me. If I was, and girls were throwing themselves at me, I might have chosen differently. I don't know. But at least for me, it wasn't lack of desire:  it was lack of opportunity. In retrospect, I'm glad things worked out the way they did.

Here's the thing though. It isn't cool to share that you aren't really interested in being sexually active with as many women as you have the opportunity to bed. While I'm not surprised that Jalen and others regularly "went to the well," I'm sure there are a ton of others who not only didn't, but weren't focused on that.

A couple other things strike me. I am sure that there are some schools were there is a pervasive culture of sexual promiscuity on teams as the norm. Think Louisville. But I also suspect that there are plenty of schools where sexual activity happens, but it doesn't drive everything. More than that, I'm sure that there are particular players who choose not to be sexually active as a matter of personal choice and belief.

Because religion and politics are a third rail, and a verboten topic on the board, we can't really discuss this. But just as there are guys like Jalen who get as much as they can, there are guys on both the football team and the basketball team who choose a different path.

You can get along with someone and be friends with someone without necessarily sharing the same patterns of drinking, drugs, and sex. There were guys in my fraternity who were always drinking, doing lines, and who always had a different girl every night.  Their choice, their priorities. But there were other guys who didn't drink at all, and who didn't sleep around. Their choice, their priorities. 

tl;dr. My point:  there are all kinds of different people, who make the choice that is right for them. To put everyone in the same boat, with the same choices and the same priorities, is pretty naive.

During that time we also had boosters paying kids. I don't think it's unreasonable to think in this era, especially with cell phones and cameras, that things have changed

Jalen, as part of his media obligations, goes on a podcast he's always on, and responds to the question/issue of the moment.  It's his job, and he's good at it.  And the only reason I could see why someone would be upset (and your name isn't Chris Webber) is because it blows up your belief that UM does nothing shady.

Jalen is talking about something 25-30 years old and people are freaking out.  If people really care about cleaning up the shady parts of college athletics, you need more people like Jalen speaking out about their experiences.  Sex, money, performance enhancing drugs.  Put it all out there on the table.

 

to get those socially awkward white kids laid so they'll stop shooting up schools

If someone didn't point Rashan Gary in the general direction of pussy on his visit I think I'd be upset.

Most of us don't know everything that goes on during a Michigan bball recruiting trip. Though maybe this kind of activity possibly played a role in why Coach B has lost out on some Big time recruits who we thought were seriously interested in coming to Michigan, but didn't. We always tend to joke about the bag man making a recruit change his mind about us, but it could simply be this kind of stuff, every now and then. I would like to think that Coach B wasn't providing it, because it is against the rules.

All this does is make me think of Champaignin' and Campaignin' from the Bill and Jalen NBA previews. Sucks we only got 1/3 of a year last year and none this year. Fuck ESPN, so on and so forth.

Jalen says sorry for partying.

sell a book....

I lived down the hall from a couple of UofM basketball players my freshman year.  There were girls lined up outside the door.  The term back in the day was Jersey Chaser.  Same thing with the hockey players downstairs. If a player is hosting another player he has no problem finding a bunch of girls to hang out.   None of these guys should ever have an issue getting a girl.  While there are all sorts of bad things about that scenario, there is still no shortage of girls who want to bang an elite athlete.  

The difference with Louisville is that they hired hookers.  Seems like that is where the line gets crossed.

This stuff never really bothered me, in that I always assumed fit, attractive, popular members of a team would have a chance to party and hang out with comely coeds (man that feels percy writing) pretty frequently.  It's why the Louisville stuff is kind of funny as well, and probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow if it wasn't for the huge cash outlays.  

I talked about this last week when he actually said it. Nothing wrong here, he basically said he went to parties met chicks and used his game to get laid. He also went out of his way to say that nobody hired hookers because it would've been unnecessary to do so.

Where did the money come from?  He will get away with it he always does..We have a BUNCH of high profile Div 1 coaches who have learned how to get away with murder and never get in trouble...There is no way in hell he didnt know...no way , and just because there is no smoking gun YET...doesnt mean he didnt know and at the LEAST should have and stopped it....The head coaches NEVER know nothing about anything..the whole system is corrupt

Where did the money come from?  He will get away with it he always does..We have a BUNCH of high profile Div 1 coaches who have learned how to get away with murder and never get in trouble...There is no way in hell he didnt know...no way , and just because there is no smoking gun YET...doesnt mean he didnt know and at the LEAST should have and stopped it....The head coaches NEVER know nothing about anything..the whole system is corrupt

I thought Jalen had enough money and attention. He's a hero around here and gets to be the cool guy on ESPN. I guess he still needs more. Every time a former player does this all it does is hurt the present. I think everyone knows how things go when you're being recruited and in visits, keep your stories to yourself.

17-yr old Soon-to-be-Sports Stars in College Find Easy Alcohol and Sex on Campus

Jalen is not alleging that anyone at UM paid for him to have sex.  If you think this doesn't happen at literally every big time program (and yes, even with the squeaky-clean program Beilein runs, even here), you're nuts.

And as far as 'Jalen should keep his mouth shut' goes--the guy is getting paid millions to talk about sports.  When an issue comes up that he has some experience with and he doesn't give up the goods, he's stealing from his employers.

I was recruited in a non-revenue sport and there was strippers, coke, and plenty of weed and beer.

Nothing too out of the ordinary if you party hard in college, pretty crazy for being a high school senior.