Same shit, different day.
This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
Same shit, different day.
They can't even fucking spell his name right on their website? "Weber" - I mean, come on. Pathetic.
Seems like CWebb wants to move on from that part of his life and Jalen can't handle it. Just let it go Jalen.
If CWebb wants nothing to do with Michigan so be it and I'm sure Michigan will be fine if CWebb wants nothing to do with the univeristy.
I think jalen is dying to have his moment where all five are there for a game. He wants it more than anything and Chris is doesnt want to and it's killing jalen inside
Who cares? Webber's actually more tolerable than jalen anymore. It's not about you guys anymore, get over it.
Damn there like children. Why can't rose drag his ass to a game have them honored he waves to the crowd and they go home what's the worst that could happen? Who would realistically boo? Most students don't even know who is too young to remember and they make up most of the crowd. He doesn't have to apologize for nothing. We're contending at the highest level and competing for big ten championships year in year out. were making more money i. The last 2 years than we would have the last decade through televised games. Beilein said it himself michigans getting so much tv coverage making recruiting easier. Both sides need to grow up and just get it over with
He could write a big check without an apology.
If he does maybe they can name timeouts after him. "30 seconds to go and Michigan calls its final Chris Webber and Family time out for the game."
go away fab 5. you are an embarrassment
no, your classism is an embarassment.
the fab five were and are awesome.
The "endowed" Chris Webber University of Michigan Head Basketball Coach.
I would forgive him.
Also, why not honor the "team" minus Webber?
I meant the noise not the dead beats that just lay there. And sure you could do it without weber but I feel like rise wants everyone there or none.
You mean Webber
the 89 team >>>> the fab 5 team. they actually won something. there have also been many UM teams that won the BIG and made final fours. have they all been "honored".
plus, didn't they have a 20th anniversary "honor" for them last year? i also think it's a slap in the face of the other players on that team who played significant roles to the success of those teams.
and i couldn't care less about webber anymore. if he doesn't want to show, good riddance. UM has plenty of other good representatives out there.
I agree with you on every point except the lack of honoring the previous national runner up teams.. They have honored those other national runner up teams with banners that hang in the rafters. We could just hang the banners from those Fab 5 led teams....oh crap, the NCAA won't let us do that for some reason. What was it again?
Jalen does a pretty good job of recognizing the Fab 5. The university probably couldn't add much after Jalen is done hyping himself and the Fab 5 up every chance he gets.
Jalen was asked a question and he answered it.
These dudes all need to move on with their lives, and we do too. This shit was 20 years ago. They're retired from the pros. They have real jobs. How many other 40+ year old guys remain so fixated on their college career, no matter how good or controversial it was?
It's common, I would imagine, for a lot of star athletes to fixate on their fleeting careers. It's why some of them turn into Joe Namath--making drunk passes at women less than half their age. It becomes their identity because nothing else has brought them as much notoriety.
Just a slightly heightened version of Al Bundy and his four touchdowns in a single game.
a quarter mile. Wanna see me throw a football over that mountain?
Man if Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.
How many people do you know who are still fixated on their HIGH SCHOOL careers (sports, the girls they should have asked out, music, classes, parties attended, whatever) let alone college?
Hope Jalen isn't holding his breath on C. Webb "growing up".
We're fortunate to have Jalen Rose representing our university the way he does.
If all former players cared about UM and tried as hard to stay connected as much as Jalen, it would be a great thing.
Except for that whole DUI and night in jail he conveniently covered up until right after his documentary aired on ESPN.
There is a paper that is typically not seen favorably but for this purpose does have some direct quotes from the interview.
Regarding Webber's non-participation in the "30 On 30":
“For whatever reason, Chris wasn’t inclined to hang out with us.That was his choice. I still love him. That’s still my brother. He doesn’t owe us anything. But there’s clearly a disconnect, and it’s unfortunate. But it is what it is.”
On the chances of healing the rift:
“I think there’s a chance for it to get ironed out one day, but until it is ironed out, I guess it’s going to be like it is right now. You can’t cry over spilled milk. Whatever happened 20 years ago ... I would think, eventually, it’s time to mature and let it go. Unfortunately, Chris, at this point, hasn’t let it go.”
I did listen to it as well, and he reiterated the position that the University should honor the Fab Five at some point in some manner as well.
Speaking of letting things go, Jalen...
as part of the fab five. I can see why the other guys would, but it's inevitably an occasion to talk about what might have been. Webber was the team's brightest star, but also the focal point for their biggest disappointments. I can see why he would prefer to just leave that in the past.
again. He and Jalen may have their own completely good, and different, reasons for their stance. It's Jalen who's wearing the thing out, though.
Jalen needs to come out of his shell.
It's interesting to me that Webber & Rose both excelled in their new careers, and they have completely opposite approaches. Rose won't stop talking about the past, and Webber won't talk about it at all. It's also pretty awesome that they succeeded despite the way they were perceived in college. I love both of them. I always will. They made me a fan of Michigan back when I was only 8 or 9 years old.
What does Jalen think about Larry Foote cohosting a radio show with Mike Valenti?
This issue has been talked about enough.
The difference is that these were players who were young and made bad decisions. Tressel was a sociopathic cheater at every stop who fostered a cheating environment. The Michigan players broke the rules behind the school's back, whether it was knowing ignorance or not. The equivalent would be Michigan celebrating Steve Fisher at a basketball game, and even then it's debatable how much Fisher knew, but that has still NEVER happened. So I will continue to call a spade a spade and Ohio is still Ohio, a school that has cheated in football and basketball, knowingly.
When/if c -webbs ready I'm sure Jalen will be the first to know.
When will these guys get the point it's not about them anymore? At some point, they need to realize their self-important "legacy" doesn't mean anything.
We have a winning team full of kids doing things the right way. Enough with the Fabs trying to get themselves back into the conversation.
I am a total fab 5 homer and this post is fucking ridiculous.
I will bet you my life's earnings that there are players on this team that have better NBA careers than King and Jackson (and thus, are 'better' than them).
Totally dismissing Burke & Hardaway, plus the other greats like Glen Rice & Rudy T. Webber is probably the best ever but Jalen/Juwan were good NBA players but not head and shoulders above everyone else.
Buccaneer-9: you must be joking. I can name at least ten players who were more talented than Webber or Rose. Rudy T., Glen Rice, Cazzie...just to start with a few.
went a little Fred Jackson with his hyperbole but ten players better than Webber? Rose I can understand but Webber was as dominant a college player as I've ever seen. I'll give the nod to Rice and Burke but I can't say there are 8 other players that were better than Webber.
Realfootballfan-Have you ever seen any of these players play: Cazzie Russell, Henry Wilmore, Rudy Tomjanovich, Campy Russell, Rickey Green, Roy Tarpley, Gary Grant (not going to mention players in the last 25 years; I assume that you have seen them). Webber was great, but one dimensional on offense, most of his points came on dunks and tip-ins. I'll take the players I've mentioned as I have personally seen every single one of them play, including Webber.
film on every one of them. All very talented players. Webber wasn't one dimensional, however. He could handle the rock, lead fast breaks and pass as well as a guard, in addition to rebounding and blocking shots. Most of his points came from tip-ins and dunks due to the position he played, how Michigan ran their offense and because he was a 6'10" athletic freak of nature. They didn't need him to shoot threes and play the wing- He was a post player. His all-around game developed after he got to the NBA(where he was the #1 overall pick and rookie of the year)especially during his Sacramento years. I respect your opinion though. All of the players you named were awesome.
but Chris Webber was as talented a player as Michigan has ever had. Like it or not
didnt bang sarah palin
i guess you missed a guy named rice averaging over 30 pts per game in his CHAMPIONSHIP tourny run.
Rose is very opinionated. Thankfully that's his job. He does a great job of being a representative for the University of Michigan, as a player-alum and a fan. I don't love everything he says, but I have no problem with him giving his opinions (especially when prompted).
The Fab 5 "reunion" at the title game was so forced and awkward. I love Jalen and his unabashed homerism, but he needs to let it go.
JALEN, CHRIS WEBBER DOESN'T WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND. HE DOESNT HAVE TO BE YOUR FRIEND.
They may have asked a question, but man, Jalen has some things going on. He's like that girl at school that needs to be liked by everyone and blames them if they don't, like it's their problem. Jalen, bro, you had a mildly successful pro career and have boatloads of money. The fact that your childhood buddy isn't feeling you or your school isn't bending over backwards to parade you around, that's called people moving on. It happens. Most normal adults don't hang out with the same group of people they did 10-20 years ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't mean they are scared or less of a family person. They simply moved the crap on.
why anyone would give two fucks about this anymore. I can't wait for WILL THE FAB FIVE RETURN for a 30 year anniversary mentioning of their names during a timeout at Chrisler.
I am not alone.
Who gives less then -2 fucks?
I give less than -3 fucks...
I think the Fab Five need to realize that most people don't care about them anymore and care more about the current team, which is the way it should be. The Fab Five played in the early NINETIES. It's 2014.
Thanks for speaking for most of us. YouTube clips don't describe how they changed college bb forever while fighting racist stereotypes, even from alumni. If you missed out I'm sorry.
Give it up, Jalen. Seriously. With how many times you've called out Webber, and the fact that he still remains silent, it's clearly obvious he has zero interest in ever affiliating with Michigan ever again. Or with the Fab Five. There's a reason he hid away up in his private box at the title game last year.
Webber wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend that his years at Michigan never happened. Frankly I think that makes him a coward, but he's within his rights to do so.
If he ever wants to come back, great. If not, I couldn't care less. The time of the Fab Five is over, dead and buried. We've got a great team with a great coach RIGHT NOW, which is infinitely more important than anything any member of the Fab Five has to say.
I don't take exception to anything Rose said. It was honest answers to reasonable questions. As fans, it's like we want to criticize athletes and coaches for vanilla answers but then criticize them for being honest.
He will be there for that.
He was just answering the questions he was asked. It's not like he's writing all this on a blog somewhere every day. If nobody asked him these questions, he wouldn't be talking about this.
I seriously doubt Jalen sits at home at night unable to sleep thinking over and over, why doesn't Chris like me, why doesn't Chris like me....