Hoke: Jake Ryan is getting closer -- believe me, he's wanting to play. He's been cleared by doctors to play.
Jake Ryan cleared to play!
great news, especially after 56 went down
ACL out, ACL in
Do you guys think the coaches will use him this week?
If a guy is cleared to play, he usually plays. He may not start, but I think we'll see him.
not always cleared to play may mean he is cleared to go all out in practice, that doesn't mean he is in game shape
You can do a lot of weight training and cardio while rehabbing an ACL injury.
When I played sports I was never in 'game shape' until I actually played my first game. I prepared for it but you can never simulate a game with practice as far as a physical toll goes. Every single year I played football the first game of the year was always the toughest on my body but after that every game never felt that bad. For me, no amount of training could replace actually playing the game.
I doubt a guy like Jake would do rehab to get his knee back to cleared strength and wait to do all his cardio until that happened. I'm sure he's been doing both so that everything lines up to where if he's cleared, he's physically ready, mentally ready, and he's done all he can do cardio wise.
This is hilarious. Wonder what the scenario was.
July 13th, 2013. Jose Fernandez was the pitcher of record in a 1-0 game agains the Nationals when Giancarlo Stanton hit a solo shot in the bottom of the 9th. Marlins went on to win the game in the 10th.
I know last week they seemed pretty hopeful and we're involving him more and more in practice, according to reports, so this is excellent news indeed. Hopefully, the JMFR 2013 campaign is allowed to commence at Penn State, even if in a limited fashion.
for the Minnesota game, but this is very good news. Hopefully we'll see him this next game, but if not, definitely for Indiana.
Why the hell would you want him playing or even dressed vs. Minnesota?
I'd prefer we sit him vs. PSU as well.
Get him some snaps vs. IU, I believe we have another bye in there...then come out 100% vs. Sparty.
Presumably, cleared to play and cleared for padded, full contact practice happened concurrently. I'd think he needs at least a couple weeks of practice to get back up to game speed. That said, it'd be nice if we can get out to a healthy lead against Penn St so he can take some low pressure snaps to get back into the swing of things.
He was cleared for full contact last week. Hoke said he could've played against Minnesota but elected to keep him out.
And let slip the Jakes of war! (or something)
Someone tell Hackenberg that the pain train is coming (and finally a pass rush)!!!
If Ryan does not dress, is he allowed to travel to Pennsylvania with the team? Does he count against travel-squad numbers if he travels with the team but does not dress? Could Ryan hop in a car and drive to State College on his own, not dress, and not count against travel squad numbers?
Seeing Taylor Lewan act like an on-field coach last week (that is a subject deserving of a thread all its own), I do think that team captains play a significant role in away games. If Ryan were to be hurried into a uniform, I'd have to think that "leadership" would be a big part of the decision.
So, I could be imagining things; it wouldn't be the first time. But, I think I remember seeing him come out with the captains at the UConn game.
Beacuse I had to explain to the 70 year old couple next to me why we had a player on the field in sweatpants.
I'm so happy
What? Why rush him back? We won't need him until the Nebraska game.
to suggest they are rushing him back if he has already been cleared.
That's, like, your opinion, man.
sooner than that. I'd like to see him get a few plays against Penn State, maybe a little more if necessary. Then unleash him vs. The Hoosiers! Got to disrupt their offense before it gets comfortable.
The Penn State game is a true freshman QB going against Greg Mattison. Do you really think having Ryan on the field is going to be the difference maker?
Being a true freshman QB is a lot less of aproblem when you are A.) An elite talent, B.) throwing to an elite WR, and C.) Facing a team with no pass rush. Right now that's check, check and check. Which in not to say that we WILL need him at PSU, but on the road, in a very hostile environment, we may. But your statement was broader than that, and if you don't think we'll need him against MSU, or maybe even to generate some pass rush against pass-happy Indiana, I don't know what to say.
Hackenberg is also throwing to Allen Robinson. Remember how good true freshman Henne was throwing to Braylon?
When the board meltdowns on Saturday as Hackenburg throws 400 yards and 5 TDs, you are going to be quoted in the game recap
UNLEASH THE FURY!!!
Man, Derrick Rose sits out over a year and Jake Ryan is back in 6 months? How does that work?
Rose is a mere mortal.
You, however, are not. +1
Guys rehab and heal at different speeds. Pkus it depends on how bad the tear was. Rose was a blow out.
Hoke said all along the target reurn was October.
But this says more about Rose than Ryan, even granted that this is an extra-quick recovery on Ryan's part.
Rose was cleared to play in February he just chose not to play. His team of handlers especially brother Reggie, did not allow a return to prevent any sort of set back.
constant movement with tons of cutting and jumping on any given moment while football, there's a short quick burst movement with very few cuts. I'd hold off longer in basketball as opposed to football for this reason. Beside Rose wanted to make sure that there is no setback and does not rush early only to reinjure himself. The Bulls were playing well without him anyway.
Welcome back Jake.
I agree. There is a 101% chance that Jake will play this weekend. Since Jake always plays at 110%, my calculations show that there is a 91.8181...% chance of him actually seeing the field.
Why float that bit of information if you are not going to act on it? It'd be like a cut scene showing a gun under the table in a mob movie, only to not have that play into the scene. It's not like it forces PSU to gameplan differently. He's an impact player, but his is not a position you really tend to play away from, right?
Can you imagine the conversation of the person who has to tell him that even though you are cleared to play, you are not going to play. There is no way they float that out if there was any doubt.
It wasn't quite floated. Hoke was avoiding answering until asked directly if he had been cleared to play. At that point he said he has. That said, I hope he gets in. We could use a spark.
YEAHHHH!! WOO! JMFR!!!!
But YEAH! WOOOO! #VIKINGS
JMFR going to smash some heads!
All the sacks
Why do so many people think we "do no need" Ryan for PSU. Nothing is a given. I dont want to rush him back either but PSU at home with a stud QB -freshman or otherwise - who will face little pash rush and has some nice WRs means we need all the talent we can get. If we had a legit pass rush I'd agree - Mattison can scheme all he wants but all trickery goes away if you have 4 seconds to throw a ball. Akron's QB looked like Joe Montana in the 2nd half since he was able to take coffee breaks back there.
... Jake's my boy!"
I'm so glad this is happening. He is my favorite current player.
Just posting this to include my signature line.
The couch coach here says I would like a ramp up in his playing time to be ready for a full game in November, where he would add the most value to the challenging schedule.
Welcome back Devin Ryan! no Devin Jake! err JMR!!!!
I don't think there is any question whether or not he's going to play this week. My biggest question is at what position and for how many snaps. Do you work him in with Brennan Beyer and rotate snaps at SAM? Or, maybe give Ryan some snaps at WDE and pull Frank Clark instead? In my opinion, Beyer needs to stay on the field, and that eventually he should move back to WDE and send Clark to the 2nd team. That probably won't happen this week, but I think that gets the best 11 on the field.
Disclosure - I'm not a coach ;)
I'd put Beyer down on the line replacing either Clark or Heitzman. Not necessarily Clark per se - he gets tough love on here for valid reasons because expectations are higher for him than Heitzman. That does not mean Clark < Heitzman. I don't know which one adds more value - at least Heitzman got a sack last week versus a Big 10 lineman but I dont recall his name being called much prior in earlier games. Jake than goes to his normal LB position.
On obvious passing downs I am at the point I'd put Beyer and Ryan as the D-ends. You will be playing a nickel package so 2 LBs are are all that is necessary. Anyhow we need help at the DEs one way or the other , and Beyer should be getting a chance. I am not expecting a world beater performance from Beyer either - much of his splash plays on the line have come against bad competition... but that is more than a lot of his peers have done on the DL.
clark is first team and beyer will split reps with Ryan and play more with his hand down when ryan hits the field.
it takes about a year to fully recover from an ACL. Jake will be back and will be great...in 2014. He'll be okay this year, but it takes awhile to get the speed back...just watch RGIII this year, he's not exactly running a 4.5 40 right now. Yeah, I'm downer, I suck...
but I'm not in the know. obviously. just feel like another week and a half would do some good. then one more game to get his bearings, bye to watch state film, and then it becomes time to go hunting for a species known as "Connor cook"
It's October already. Wow that was fast.
Hot damn!! This is a welcome relief after losing Pip for the rest of the season.
Can't wait to see him back in the field this weekend.
I don't get all the people talking about Jake coming back for PSU. He played against Minnesota, at least the announcers made it seem like he was all over the field!
At the time I'm reading this post again, the number of up votes is 47, so I suggest no one else up vote this thread.