What is going on this winter????
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
What is going on this winter????
Workouts. QBs could be throwing to receivers.
No one told him it was 2014?
I blame the messenger. Now where is my torch and pitchfork?
That's all I can say anymore.
Football. Just go away until spring.
Dear god nooooo! I guess Ian Bunting probably won't redshirt. Any link? Source?
I found it on UM's twitter with a link to a press release at MGoblue.com. Don't know how to make the link.
Thanks for the update anyway. He really looked good this past year. I would've loved seeing him in year two.
Remember, we still have Khalid Hill coming off a redshirt last year. Hopefully Funchess, Williams, Hill and Paskorz are good enough so Bunting doesn't have to be called if he's not ready.
Silver lining is it's encouraging knowing we could potentially have Butt and Bunting as RS Freshmen in 2015...
Good call! I forgot about Khalid Hill, and I was excited about him when he signed. I think we'll be able to overcome the injury, it's just very unfortunate for Jake Butt. Hopefully he has a speedy rehab.
I honestly don't understand why we don't go with Shallman at a offset H back instead of a TEZ at this point.. he is too damn athletic to not get on the field. Matchup nightmare.
He is going to be a redshirt freshmen this season, so there is a pretty good chance that happens....I also think he will make a very good H back....
You are confused that a player is not named by some poster to be in the mix? Huh?
Firstly, Jake Ryan hurt his ACL in April and played by October so Jake has 2 months and we don't know the severity (even though all are surgically repaired some are not as bad as others).
Shallman sounds to be an H back candidate or more skilled FB so he wouldn't be a pure replacement IMO. Bunting could play a role but remember Jake had the benefit of spring ball to get a bit more experience. Hill is rumored to have good hands but doesn't have the blocking mojo yet. A.J. Williams is much leaner so at least the blocking guy with a bit more catching threat will be there.
Set back for Jake but only for 14 perhaps. Does not affect him long term. I think we will be surprised by what this develops in other players and how qucikly Jake returns.
This is totally gut reaction but are we statistically different in terms of ACL injury rate in recent years versus other programs? Yikes.
JMFR tore his ACL in mid March, not April. I learned of it the day I left for Las Vegas to watch the start of last years NCAA basketball tournament.
and Shallman at TE/H Back.... Butt will miss Jake.
What the fucking fuck. This is horrible.
So much for happy 2014. Stupid angry ACL hating demons!
Ian Bunting time to step up young man.
Wish him the best and a speedy recovery!
Gosh. The kid looked like a stud in hs on film and I'm sure he will grow a lot between now and then but I'm not sure this is OPTIMAL.
Do we have an abnormal amount of ACL tears? If so, do we need to consider getting a new strength and conditioning coach, or new field turf?
Yes. I'm starting to think the same thing
Yes, what is going on? There has to be something that is/is-not being done in conditioning or style of work outs that makes us more susceptible to ACL tears. I remember Barwis at some point talking about how he prides himself on not having these types of issues....how can anyone deny this? Wellman needs to evaluate what is going on - I'd like to hear some non-boiler plate discussion about the topic from the staff.
It's not a UM thing. ACL injuries are on the rise across sports. Like the guy said below, you can't strengthen it, you just have to hope and pray.
Here's a nice article from Grantland, just talking about the ACL, injuring it, and just the sheer randomness of it all
To start, I studied ACL and Knee Morphology in particular non-contact ACL tears for a long time. Morphology plays a huge role. You are correct that you cant necessarily strengthen the ACL but you can strengthen the surrounding muscles. however, the ACL tears when there is a torque delievered to the knee (landing at an angle, making a cut in football) . The ACL can take a huge load, upwards of 800 lbs of vertical force wont tear it, but add a little torque, even a 4 degree angle and its shreds. Basically what I'm saying is players theses days are more muscular, weigh more, and run faster. They are pushing their limits. So the rise of the ACL tear is part nature, morphology of your knee, and part physicality of the game. Looking at slow motion video imaging of actual tears shows we are putting more force on the ligament than in decades past (hence the rise of the injury in the 90's).
I can't speak for everybody else, but I deny this using logic and reason.
is when I say "there is not any reason for me to use logic"....
if we have an "abnormal" amount of them, but you can't strengthen an ACL, you can only strengthen the muscles around it in hopes that the muscles are doing the work and the reducing the loads that the ACL sees. There is also some though that you can train people how to cut, etc so that you are using more muscle and relying less on the bones and connective tissue. However, I suspect that Jake Butt, Jake Ryan, Ondre Pipkins, Chris Wormely, Blake Countess, etc. already have extremely strong muscles in their legs, and they appears to be fluid athletes, so the S&C coach can't do much to train them to be less susceptible to ACL tears.
A more interesting question is what are all of them doing when they tear their ACLs? If they are contact injuries, there is nothing you could do other than eliminate the contact. If they are non-contact, are they participating in drills or movements that we should be avoiding?
Someone should look to see if the soccer and tennis teams are having ACL issues at a similar rate to the football team is, especially if the football injuries are happening in non-contact situations. If those two teams are not experiencing issues, their training methods need to be studied by Wellman. Those two sports put a large amount of load on knee ligaments.
I know as a tennis coach that I do a lot of work to help strengthen and stabilize leg muscles to help prevent injury. Most of my stuff I just take straight from our soccer coach.
ACL tears aren't really predictable. You can do the same move 1000 times and then on the 1001st time it goes out. A good example is when EMU's QB, a few years ago, dropped back from under center and just fell to the ground from tearing his ACL. He wasn't hit and he obviously had dropped back tens of thousands of times, but, for some reason, his ACL decided it couldn't handle it that time.
Maybe a better way to look at it is to compare it to what happened to Kevin Ware. There is nothing that happened that would make you think his leg would break like that, but it did. ACL tears are similar in the fact that they are an anomaly and that there is not much you can do to realistically prepare for them.
It's doubtful they have been on the field recently. In fact this artice says it was during conditioning.
If the conditioning drills were in the practice facility, he was on FieldTurf.
I said this on the last thread about someone tearing their ACLs (forgot who) and I got ripped for it
Jake Butt's ACL tear is the 9th incident since spring of 2011 according to Nick Baumgardner on Twitter.
At first I read "tears" as in "tears of sorrow". The answer to that might indeed be yes, we do have an abnormal amount of ACL tears. This board alone has shed millions of gallons of tears over ALC's the past few years.
A statistical study done by Stanford's team doctor revealed some interesting stats. He used stats for complete ACL tears from the 2004-2008 seasons on injuries reported to the NCAA Injury Surveillance System.
The main takeaway: there are 1.24 ACL tears per 10,000 exposuires on natural grass, compared to 1.42 per 10,000 exposures on artificial turf. The doctor was quoted as saying that "the rate of injury...is significantly higher on third-generation artificial turf."
The current Duraspine version at the Big House could debatably be called "fourth generation" artificial turf; I don't know what turf is on the practice fields.
Dr Dragoo also noted that the injury rate during games could be as much as ten times that in practice.
I am guessing we can just chalk this one up to bad luck and hope for a speedy recovery. .
Are you EFFIN kidding me with this stuff?!
And here I was having a good day.
Man, ACLs are real downers....
Hoke should find one of those basketball power forwards who wants to play college football for a year to prepare for the NFL.
Wellllll, we gotta make sure it doesn't mess up team chemistry.
Oh and we have to execute.
Just grad transfer to the football team?
Morgan doesn't exactly have the softest hands.
Not to mention it would be like his 7th year.
Seriously, I have been asking for a year now where Bielfeldt has a higher upside, football or Basketball. I know you just can't start playing football and be great right away, but as of now it does not look like minutes on the court will be easy to come by, and 6-7 245 is not a bad place to start for a tight end, and he has 3 years of eligibility left.
If everyone returns to the basketball team we are one scholarship over the limit. Jon Harford to tight end!!!
They seem to just break a lot
but we should also stop doing conditioning drills---look how many times our athletes end up in bad condition from them!
Jake Ryan last year and Jake Butt this year! REALLY?!
We should probably stop recruiting guys named Jake
And guys with ACLs
don't forget about Jake Pipkens and Jake-Drake Johnson
What about Jake Countess?
from State Farm?
Joliet Jake BLUEs.
something tells me we're not done. . .
Tough break for Jake, working hard in the off-season and this happens. [LINK]
It's the offseason, man!
Per the release, this happened during winter condition, so sadly it is definitely possible. It's a shame too because I really liked what I saw from him in 2013 and was hoping for an ever more prolific 2014 season. Hopefully, his recovery goes smooth and he is out there again as soon as he is able.
and I cannot lie.
Look at Jake Butt, his ACL is so....TORN!!!! NOOOOOO........
2014's way of keepin' it real.
Goddammit. Perry the ACLephant needs to go back to Purdue and stay there.
Angry Jake Hating God??? AJHG
And things that rhyme with Jake. Like Drake.
And Ondre...well 2 out of 3 isn't terrible.
His full name is Ondrake. Ondre for short.
blake...drake...i think youre on to something
(edit: According to Ace's "Hello" post, two fakes:
I thought the recovery was about 6 months. Am I totally off base here? That would get him back right around fall camp.
Especially for a young player that was probably still growing into his body. I wouldn't be surprised if he came back this season (though they may just redshirt him if it's too late in the season), but I'd predict mid-Oct or Nov for a more realistic timeline for his recovery if he did come back.
Obviously, it also depends on the degree of injury. Was it a clean tear? Partial tear? Does it require surgery? It's usually a pretty safe bet to say 9 months +/- 3 months. Not everyone is Jake Ryan or AP, and the worst thing for Butt would be to rush back into it when not completely ready.
This flippin' weather, man. First I fall and crack my iPhone... (/hathos)
Hoke will just call it a boo boo.
Any chance he returns this year just like Jake Ryan did last year? Hopefully that is the case. I believe this injury occurred earlier in the year that Ryan's torn ACL so maybe we still see him in 2014. After the 2013 year he had I was really looking forward to seeing him play in 2014. Hoping for a healthy and speedy recovery.
Any guesses on a time table for his return? I would guess he will have surgery within a week or two once the swelling goes down. That puts us at the third-end of February. Is he likely done for the season?
So that's six ACL tears in the last 17 months: Countess, Wormley, Ryan, Bellomy, Pipkins, Butt. Is this a strength & conditioning concern yet? (I have zero knowledge on the subject, so it may just be the availability heuristic in play.)
brzinski (sp) i think.
Oops, forgot him and Drake Johnson. That's eight. Eight ACL tears!
Drake was certainly not conditioning...but we do seem to have lots of knee issues.
But I don't think it's a huge outlier compared to most teams around the country. I mean, in your length you included two full seasons of football, and ACL injuries are maybe the most common non-head related injury in the sport.
I would say most teams are pretty safe for one per offseason and two-three per season, unfortunately. ACLs and what not are very frustrating injuries for everyone involved, because they seem to happen for no reason a lot of the time, but there also isn't much you can do about it a lot of the time.
but i think only a couple of those guys were injured during games. so i think that is a lot of off-field acl injuries.
Did he slam his knee into a table? Damn u Dan dakich!
Bad news. But since it is early February (not spring practice), I wonder what his recovery timeline is. Back in time for B1G?
IIRC Ryan had his surgery on March 31st of last year, so Butt has about a six week advantage. The advantage he does NOT have is MF as a middle name... yet.
this really hurts. hopefully, funchess can improve his blocking and move back to TE for a bit.
At some point, the way these guys are trained has to be looked at. Although, I don't know what you'd find out from it. This blows...
What the fuck are they doing in their conditioning that would cause so many torn ACL's?
TE depth is terrible behind Butt. Just terrible. Big guy who can't block and parties too much, converted DE, and a freshman who is more of a WR than a TE. Fuck it all.
One has to hope our new OC will adapt in a way our old one could not
Yes. Probably be more 3 WR sets with a FB and a RB. No more 2 and 3 TE sets....
Seriously, Williams needs to get his act together. Recruited to be a blocking TE and he can't block for shit. Add that to the fact that he's about as fast as a really large bear, and you have one useless TE. The partying and subsequent arrest the week of the MSU game was just outrageous
Is the personal criticism really necessary?
Hey recruit x, come to Michigan so the fanbase can bitch about you petulantly.
Ummm grizzly bears run 25-30mph for up to 2 miles. You might want to rethink your speed metaphor
Redshirt Kahlid Hill? HB/TE?
Annual ACL Tear is Annual.
michigan football: tearing your ACL is a rite of passage
Those who stay... will very possibly tear their ACLs.
This sucks. A really good, productive young player at one of the thinnest positions on our roster. I disapprove.
ha. i see what you did there; likely unintentionally though.
The amount of improvement we saw from Butt last year shows he is a very hard worker and was probably practicing with his teammates when this happened, We all saw the benefits from Gallon practicing in the off season with Gardner and hopefully it has rubbed off on the younger recievers and TEs.
Hope that Butt can put in the work that Ryan did(and practicing in February implied he can), because this is a month earlier than Ryan tore his ACL and he was back on the field by mid October.
At least the OC is no longer married to multiple TE sets and we won't be forced to play a 220 lb true freshman Bunting at TE even if he's not ready or move Funchess back inside.
So you're saying he's single???
All the single ladies...or....
This basically means Funchess back to TE. AJ Williams HAS to step up and improve. Khalid Hill and Ian Bunting will have every opportunity to spell Funchess. I could even see Shallman getting reps at TE in the spring.
Shallman's skill set seems like he could get a look at TE.
funchess isn't going back to TE. he's too good of a receiver and he still can't block.
What a shame. Hopefully Butt can do what Ryan did and come back earlier than expected. He looked great toward the end of last season. Funch back to TE, I suppose
I will give Jake my ACL...hell the team can have both. I'm just a bald Dad damnit I dont need these things.
Please let this be it as far as pre fall injuries
Can make it back before mid season.
Does your Butt hurt, too?
(in honor of BiSB's request)
Butt was one if the reasons why moving Funchess to WR was such a great idea. Now that he's injured...Funch may likely be a primary TE again (correct me if I'm wrong). Which means I sure hope he learns how to block. This seems like a bad injury because it could also effect our WR depth chart.
I know it's mostly unproven, but the WR depth could be very good this season. Replacing Gallon will be no small feat, but we're not short of plausible candidates. Funchess will probably get moved back to TE on the depth chart, but I don't expect it to have much impact on how he's used.
I wonder if we are really having an above-average number of these injuries (in relation to other teams), or if it just seems like it because they have been to important players like Countess, Ryan, and Butt.
It seems like we've had a lot, until you think about how many injuries other team have had (like Purdue and Iowa).
It does seem to be an epically bad stretch and especially seems to hit the more critical positions and depth guys. This may just be bad luck, but between the lack of push the OL and DL were getting and this stretch of ACL tears in the past year there does seem to be something going in the Strength and Conditioning program.
This season is going to be horrific, again, unless some pass catchers STEP UP.
Not that it matters since DG will be running for his life half the time in the backfield due to WE GOT THE FUNK.
This season is going to be horrific, again, unless some pass catchers STEP UP.
Not that it matters since DG will be running for his life half the time in the backfield due to WE GOT THE FUNK.
Well, may as well skip to the 2015 season then.
BBB. It's Nuss's fault.
Anyone else read that as if Justin Timberlake was singing it? Anyone?
Just me? Damn.
Don't worry, guys, We've got Jordan Paskorz.
What is he, on his 7th year? Jesus.
And this is what I find. What a great way to start the day. 8 ACL tears in 17 months is rather crazy, but who knows.
Good luck in your convalescence Jake.
Hate to hear that. Hope he recovers quickly.
This is getting suspect. Last week listening to Cowherd, he said he "knows" college football analysts who go to michigan practices and they are not impressed. Specifically said, "the training and practices they have seen are not at the level you would think of a big time football program"
Well, if anyone knows Michigan football, it's Colin Cowherd.
So, so glad I didn't listen to that show. I hate Colin Cowherd when he talks about having a cup of coffee.
NFL Coach, a former NFL Nutritionist, a former NFL Equipment Manager, a former NFL LB a former NFL QB, a Coach who has coached 15 All-American or All-B1G players, and a guy who spent multiple years at IMG in addition to the rest of the staff who contribute 50 or so years of experience. We should get someone that knows the game, like Cowherd.
And he's a USC slappy. Their shit don't stink.
I like listening to him, until he talks about Michigan. Because it's never good. Even when Michigan does something good, there are always caveats involved. He talks about not being a "prisoner of the moment" all the time yet that's basically the only level of analysis he gets to with anything Michigan related.
He was SO QUICK to point out that surely Nuss wasn't stolen from Bama, that Saban wanted Kiffin and shoved Nuss out the door. He was harshly criticizing Michigan fans. Because surely nobody would abandon the almighty Saban. The Nyss hire was "luck". He not once had anything good to say about it. This was the morning after the hire too.
Turns out there is a nonzero chance that he's dead wrong. There's a real possibility Nuss wanted to leave from personality clashes and Nick knew ahead of time. He was scapegoated, after all. And...ugh, Colin actually thinks Kiffin is an upgrade. It might be, but there's not much on his resume to point to other than the time he was co-OC with Sarkisian under Caroll. So, shove it up your ass, Colin.
Colin Cowherd is right up there with Mark May, Lou Holtz, Skip Bayliss, and Stephen A Smith as far as guys who think they are the biggest geniuses in the history of sports but they make me want to punch them every time they open their mouth and try to pretend like they know things
At what point does this become an issue with training?
Do not run. Do not cut. Do not walk to class (ice slippage danger). Do not use stairs.
We'll have a well-atrophied team by early August, but at least our ACLs will be intact.
Get well, Jake.
Yup then they can tear them against Appy St. Oh the joys
from now on everyone wears those knee braces the OL wear. i mean all of the time; to class, to bed, everywhere.
When our walk-on punter steps out of the shower in the morning, he better damned well be wearing a knee brace. I'm even advocating for a fleet of electric sit-down scooters to transport our players to class. Elevator use is mandatory because stairs are evil entities just waiting to rip apart an ACL. I have reached ACL panic mode.
/ too soon?
Seriously, This sucks. For the team and for a kid who seemed to be developing into a damn good player. As far as return date goes, I am not sure having him hurry back is smart. Ryan wasn't the same player as in 2012. Depending on the prognosis, it may be smarter for Butt to take a medical RS and come back fully healthy in 2015.
In conclusion, this sucks.
Should've taken 2 TE's in 2014.
I want to yell random obscenities like Brick Tamlin
wow. So mid October best case scenario?
I believe Jake's injury took place during an early spring practice. So I guess if we have extremely high expectations we could expect him to return around the same time or possibly several weeks sooner. But that is probably at the earliest.
Bellomy tore his around the same time as JMFR last Spring, and I don't remember ever hearing about him being ready by October like Ryan. Every tear is different, from what I understand.
he likely still isn't ready, but not because of his knee.
FUCK THIS NOISE!
2014...you have failed us. No but seriously, things have been going so good lately. I was not ready to see this thread when I refreshed. This is tough to hear.
...that torn ACLs are so prevalent now? Is it the increased size/weight of these guys causing additional stress on joints, ligaments and tendons? Is it related to the types of workouts and conditioning they're doing? Has this always been a problem over the years or is it exponentially increasing?
I just don't get it.
MGoBlog Circle of Blame on ACL Tears
Step 1: Blame Al Borges
Result: Al Borges has been fired so is unlikely personally responsible for current ACL tears. Suspicion over past injuries remain.
Step 2: Blame Dave Brandon
Result: Dave Brandon unlikely to be wrecking ACL's personally due to corporate jet setting and influence peddling for University
Step 3: Blame S&C Program Coaches
Result: Wellman appears generally well regarded within his profession but still under suspicion
Step 4: Blame Adidas
Result: Adidas is probable culprit
Step 5: Engage in circular logic. Accordingly, because Dave Brandon retained S&C coaches and signed Adidas contract he is reasonably at fault for current ACL issues.
I'll agree with that logic. I'll blame Adidas. Or maybe the B1G network. It has been a downhill slide since literally the first live football game televised on the network.
Yup, pretty much.
how desperate Nussmeier was for the job. Knowing all the above, he still left Alabama and the SEC to come to a cold, snowy, Ann Arbor, where the staff conspires to injure players. In addition, Michigan/A2 really needs some nearby medical infrastructure, so that people who understand medicine/surgery/human bodies can be consulted.
This ish cray. We have a crazy amount of ACL tears recently. What gives (other than ligaments)?
shouldn't 2014 juji have prevented this? what's up with that 2014?
if this was still 2013. Zombie practice apocalypse. Or at least rampant pink eye.
What they are being asked to do in off-season workouts. Too much squat at high weights can really pave the way for torn ligaments. Could be a number of things including bad luck, but I don't remember this happening with other staffs in the off-season. Can we get a work out specialist on here with an informed opinion? I really don't know enough about this...
were asking the same questions. Prior to that, they were talking about pizzas.
What the hell. I'm no trainer or S & C expert, but could this be freakish bad luck, or poor training techniques? Get well soon Jake.
The company and the NFL deny it, but there are studies showing an increase in lateral knee injuries on FieldTurf as compared to grass. Grass breaks, FieldTurf doesn't. It's tough to tell now, as many programs with grass fields have FieldTurf practice facilities. I will look for citations on the injury rates, I have some on my other laptop.
A lot of folks blaming/questioning conditioning...
I tore my ACL many years ago and, due to my active lifestyle, tend to have "flare-ups" whether it be soreness, weakness, etc. In dealing with doctors, therapists, and trainers, I've learned the best way to help prevent/condition/rehabilitate ACL and other significant knee-ligament injuries is basically strengthening the surrounding muscles, namely the quadricep.
That being said, I don't know of many conditioning and strength-based workout regimens that do not feature "squads" or "deadlifts," a combination of the two, and other such Olympic style power and strength based lifts as a staple. So unless Wellman teaches the worst lifting form ever, I don't know if that is the ideal tree you want to bark up.
is still available correct?
His regular redshirt is available and a medical redshirt is obviously an option. If his prognosis isn't until week 6 or beyond.. I would prefer we reshirt the kid and still have 3 remaining years on the table. Either way, the kid will work his "Butt" off to recover as quick as possible. Get well soon Jake!
the only way you can use a 'medical' redshirt is if you have already burned your regular redshirt. So injury or not, would still count as a redshirt (in the hypothetical situation that he sits the season).
sure Gardner got a medical redshirt without burning his regular redshirt
it was a little confusing with how I phrased that. What I meant is that for example even though Gardner's redshirt was medical, he would not have another redshirt year available to him. If the medical redshirt comes first, it becomes the de facto redshirt for the player.
Please be good Ian Bunting
Bad luck again. Hopefully it gives him enough time since 7 months out is still September.
Time for Nussmeier to go 5-wide or back to that Washington spread-to-run he ran. No need to force the TE on the field now.
Get well soon Jake!
Can we update the quote at the top of the page to
In conclusion, butt :(
for a Stanford-like training and conditioning program. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/sports/ncaafootball/stanfords-distinct-training-regimen-redefines-strength.html?_r=0
That's what we get for talking about our TE depth in the podcast this week. Damn you AMTEHG!
Unless I'm missing someone, I believe that's nine ACL tears since Hoke took over as head coach in 2011.
He already did
This was shaping up to be a real position of strength for this team; while we do have some depth at this position, this is a real blow.
He must have actually hurt it in 2013, and is just now reporting it, right?
Does Funchess go back to TE now that we'll have Darboh back for WR?
Terrible news. Speedy recovery, Jake.
WHYYYYYY do the football gods hate us still?
A butt tear is never good.
/ negs self
Blake, Drake, Jake, and Jake.
And Blake's brother Brad (at Penn State) tore his ACL last summer! Almost like the ACL monster got the wrong brother.
Football is a brutal sport, but this is an inordinate amount of ACL injuries. I'm wondering if this calls into question our SC coach?
What a novel idea!
You make fun but seriously, what is the staff doing about this?? My dr friend said the players aren't wearing their braces when they should or not keeping up with the right programs in the off-season. Don't these kids know what they are risking, or do they have the teenage it won't happen to me mentality? These are mostly rhetorical questions, obviously, but I wish there were answers.
I think Magnus may also be referring to the 2 dozen or so other people in this thread who have previously questioned our S&C staff and training methods. Another "WTF S&C?" question at this point seems, well, -1 redundant.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Are we supposed to read all of the replies in a thread before we reply? I don't generally have time to do that. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely asking.
Y Y us!!!! Nnnnnooooooo..
We cannot have nice things.
What what in the Butt!
This is a heartbreaker on the level of Jake Ryan's injury to me. I was very excited to see what Butt could do this year, and what Nuss could do with him. We went from having the best TE tandem in the conference to having big question marks. Hopefully Williams takes a big step and maybe Hill can do some things.
that's too bad. why is Perry the ACLephant living in Ann Arbor nowadays?
Butt is having surgery Feb. 20, about a monyh before Ryan tore his last year. I think Butt will be back around the start on the B1G schedule.
with a new OC there are probably going to be a bunch of new plays and formations. Missing spring and probably fall camp is going to put Jake behind in terms of learning the new offense on the field.
UofM needs to invent a quick fix to ACLs but not share it.
damn that sucks...I was really looking forward to seeing 3 TE sets this year with guys over 6'5".
I fucking hate the ACL Gods!!!!!
EDIT: Fuck...just tore my ACL.
What a shock. What a fucking shock.
This would happen to us. Again. At least its basketball season.
I believe there was a thread about this and I don't know if it's already been mentioned here but there was a NYT article about Stanford adopting a conditioning program that focuses on flexibility and balance...
9 ACL tears in basically 2 years is absurd. And anyone who attributes it to just bad luck is deluding themselves.
9 in two years? I didn't realize it was that many.
How is it basically 2 years? This is the fourth winter conditioning Hoke has been at Michigan for.
Given there are some of the world's best experts on ACL injuries on campus, I would think that Hoke or Wellman would contact them for advice. I asked a couple of the professors this week and they haven't had any communication with athletics about it.
FWIW, I saw Jake Butt walking up the stairs and out of Mojo today. He had crutches, but he was walking up the stairs pretty much without them. This means it's not a very severe ACL tear right? right? right?
p.s. I have no medical knowledge whatsoever, so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.
You actually don't even need your ACLs to get around in day-to-day life. Your ACLs are required for quick, lateral movements - a common event in the sports world, but not if you're just walking around. Older people with ACL tears quite often don't even get surgery.
I had a friend who was born without ACLs. He played football growing up all the way through HS. He required three knee surgeries after he was finished but played, and started at LT. He was good, but he always struggled with lateral movements. You can walk forward with an ACL, you just have difficulty cutting.
Yeah I know, cool story.
Ya, this is officially a problem. Time for the S&C staff to get put on notice. Way too many injuries like this then what we've seen in the past
And not a coincidence. Strength coaches need to change something fast
Michigan Injuries and Mike Barwis For the life of me, I don't know why all those pro athletes train with Barwis. You fellows should run right over there and warn them, right after you get rid of the current staff.
No, no, we have never been down this path before.
is that that thread was complaining about a handful of various dings and sprains, while this one is talking about 9 ACL tears in 2 years...
I think you mean 9 in 4 offseason SnC go rounds.
Whatever someone did to break 2014, please go back and fix it now!
ESPN mentioned that Nuss offered Ferns as a TE at Bama. I dk what his weight is, but that might be a decent back up plan. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/95870/what-will-michigan-do-without-jake-butt
Half a knee, philosophically,
Must, ipso facto, half not be.
But half the knee has got to be
Vis a vis, its entity. D'you see?
But can a knee be said to be
Or not to be an entire knee
When half the knee is not a knee
Due to some recent injury?
La dee dee, one two three,
Jake Butt has half a knee.
A B C D E F G,
Jake Butt has half a knee.
I love this sophomore TE,
While working out in February,
I love him carnally.
He loves him carnally,
Russell Bellomy. . .
/ with apologies to Monty Python
Welcome to the Big Ten Ian Bunting
This can't possibly be just a concidence. It's either conditioning, the turf, or shoes. One of those has to be the problem.
Since Nuss came on board we are averaging almost 1 ACL tear a month!
Has it been confirmed that the tear was a result of football related activity? How exactly did he tear his ACL? I hope that information comes out.
Was running routes. No contact.
Never like to see a kid injured. Speedy recovery Jake!
Here's hoping for a quick recovery to be back stronger than ever.