frank beamer #1
Jabril Peppers is killing it.
I better not see Peppers on the field in a "limited" capacity next season given our uninspiring DB play this year.
Completely agree. He is the number two player in the country for a reason and he needs to start.
I will be pretty pissed if he isn't getting most of the reps. Taylor was absolutely awful last night and Countess didn't look very good either.
Yes, because one bad game surely means our DBs are trash. Also, we all know that with an entire offseason and extra year of experience, they probably won't improve...
He'll be a true freshman next season. I have a lot of confidence that he'll be a great player but it may not happen in 2014. Don't have unrealistic expectations.
we should expect him to play like a freshman, bonehead mistakes and all -- but still, he should play. I hope he slots into the Nickle but I think with his upside there is a chance you see Taylor move to nickel and put him out in coverage. Countess played as a freshman and I think we can all agree that while he is a good corner, he did not have the hype or athleticism expected from Peppers.
I'm not the coach so I don't make the decisions, but I think you are wasting a year if you don't get this kid on the field on regular downs.
Let's start out 2014 in anticipation of being pissed!
normally i'd take this sort of report worth a grain of salt, but i am so desperate for good news that this just made my morning!
over Hand's spot on the Alabama roster.
While I mostly agree, there is nothing wrong with posting something positive with the added enthusiasm for an incoming recruit. There haven't been enough postive posts on the board lately, so I will gladly welcome such things.
Also your avatar is hilarious.
This post is considered positive. Hmmm.
I considered it positive because it's mostly about Peppers being a beast and his potential to benefit and contribute to the team next year.
Insults are always welcome...particularly if they somehow make you feel more intelligent!
Why would you state something as stupid as "I don't know why this kid loves Michigan so much"? Let me paraphrase your good news:
"Hey kids! I know you're all fat, out of shape and should be on a diet, but great news! I brought you a double cheeze pizza!"
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Why wouldnt he love michigan, last night game confirmed that he will start his freshman year and beat all the rest of the guys for the position..he will prolly play offense too seeing how poorly our running game is..i hope this kid does make a difference we desperatly need
I highly doubt it will be at RB. He'll be a slot who will have a few runs designed for him.
What is he killing? ugh I hope he doesn't get in trouble for it.
The OP is right. Cheese makes everything better. The second best recruit in Michigan isnt a kicker. I am sitting right now and probably will be until I have to take a leak. Who put the pickles on the top shelf? The coaches suck. Peppers doesnt suck. Hand doesnt suck but then again Peppers still doesnt suck. I like tomatoes. They will either turn this around or they won't but either way Dave Brandon will be there. Always there. Did I mention that cheese makes everything better?
Unfortunately, that is where this program is at right now.
Looking forward to seeing what Peppers can do in the Maize and Blue! Also already looking forward to next fall...
Who recruited this kid again?
totally excited to see this kid live. however, 1 guy does not make a team. We have big problems. i would bet dollars to donuts that Hoke will not survive past next year.
You just got negged by Magnus. That must hurt at least a little.
using every opportunity they can get—whether it's within recruiting rules or not—to point out our apparent dedication to having our DBs play 8-10 yards off the receiver, regardless of down and distance, and whether you think you will have an opportunity to match Charles Woodson's career playing that kind of coverage? Or have Hoke & Co. already told you that once you set foot on the field that you'll be playing press coverage in most situations, rather than settling back in a soft zone for most of the game?
Edit: I couldn't care less about getting negged, but if you disagree with my point, what's your reasoning? Do you really think that rival coaches have stopped negative recruiting with JP?
I saw him get burned in a video on twitter so it's hard to say he's "killing it" Yeah the kid is good, but he will still be a true freshman. Why does everyone assume the best high school players will come in and dominate? It's not that easy.
Well, there have been a couple Heismans for freshmen the last couple years...why not have us luck into a dominant freshman for the first time in a decade? That being said, I think our problems are structural.
REDSHIRT FRESHMEN ARE NOT FRESHMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He took to twitter to defend himself. There's no pressing allowed in the game, so that's why he played that far off the ball. So yes, he got "burned" in the video, one time. But, had he been able to play press coverage, I'm sure it would have turned out a little differently. It's not his fault he has to play so far off the ball. He just does what the UA coaches tell him.
The kid may have great potential but it will take more than him to get this team to 9 wins given we have four tough road games next year. Brady and staff have shown very little ability to win outside the Big House or against decent teams. If we don't get quality play from the front four or the line backers, we could have Charles Woodson and it wouldn't turn things around... the absolute best thing for this team, besides more experience, is to have ZERO hype, no rankings, and a chip on their shoulder to prove something.
then maybe he's not all we thought he'd be. Taylor's had two years as a starter to look this bad. I'll take some burns on double moves for a guy who will be showing his talent by the end of 2014. I'm NOT saying this is Woodson 2.0, but Ty Law started as a true Frosh, got burned early but looked excellent near the end of the year.
As dominant as Derrick Green?
derrick green = kevin grady, part II? i really hope this year was just a symptom of terrible offensive line play, and that this rb can actually play. why do we only seem to get the underachieving 5 stars? big will campbell, anyone?
Green played well last night. He can't help that he would get 5 yds and then they'd take him out.
wow, i stand corrected. 1 carry for 5 yards. he's a world beater for sure.
look, i'm not closing the door on his career, just stating that he has been disappointing to this point. he almost always goes down after first contact, and he clearly failed to impress in practices enough to overtake a relatively ineffective starting rb. didn't help that he wasn't motivated enough to arrive to fall camp in shape.
i was hoping for more, especially when rb is the one skill position that a freshman can make a real impact.
like i said, hopefully an indictment of our oline and not his actual potential, but boy it is frustrating to watch rbs that are much lower in talent coming out of high school being much more solid contributors on teams with average olines.
Slow down, champ. Try adjusting your expectations for freshmen, and you won't be so upset when they play like freshmen. He has plenty of time to develop and improve.
Why should he lower his expectations for Freshmen? Freaking freshmen are winning the Heisman!!! They are performing all over the country, yet for some reason Michigan fans act like an impact freshman is some sort freak that only comes around every 20 years. I'm sick of the youth excuse. 5 star guys like Peppers should produce as freshman, not
saying he should be all Big10, but he should be on the field quite a bit and perform well.
Redshirt freshman are sophomores. Thanks for playing.
A true freshman HB will be very limited in his production with a bad offensive line. That's a fact. Trying to compare him to RS freshmen quarterbacks (Manziel last year and Winston this year) who were on damn good teams does little for your argument.
I was actually referring to Peppers more than Green. I'm not saying a hyped true freshman should win the Heisman, but people around here act like there is some magic elixir that only second year players get. That is unless you are on the O-line, then you have to be a Jr or Sr to be good. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, we have to wait and see like always and speculating does little especially on someone that hasn't signed.
yes, you are right. a bad oline is hard for a freshman rb to shine with. that's why i said i hope it is a reflection of the oline and not his true potential.
ask any football expert and they will tell you that running back is the one position that a talented true freshman can consistently contribute in. mike hart, marshall faulk, tj yeldon, adrian peterson, ron dayne, even crazy ass maurice clarett all excelled as true freshman. the one thing each of them had was decisiveness, an ability to hit a hole hard and fast, and an ability to keep their feet moving after contact so that they nearly always gained yards. the oline is responsible for the first few yards, the rb for yards after that. in limited action, i failed to see anything that promising from either derrick green or smith in this regard. granted, there were few holes to hit, thus the jury is still out. trust me, i want derrick green to be amazing, i just haven't seen evidence to support that he will be.
green couldve been anthony thomas 2.0 and dominated every session since setting foot on campus and hoke still wouldve found a way to trot out touissant for much of the season. if we all recall the logic was touissant was the best pass pro back on the team yet still failed to execute 90% his blocks. and if i recall articles at the time, it took several poor losses with worst rushing outputs in um history (ie 27 for 27 yds) as well as transfer rumors to shake up the RB lineup. hoke has this crazy loyalty and insane hard work / effort / physicalness complex where he appears to justify playing time not by expectation of production/ success during games but rather by who works hardest during each week. whether its walkons on kick coverage teams or guys like ryan glasgow "earning" snaps during practice only to get blown up every snap on saturday or the loyalty factor with guys like reynolds and jackson or touissant in some situations or even justive hayes all of a sudden becoming #1 RB.....if guys put out during the week and earn PT thats fine, as long as the coaches honestly believe they will provide best production possible at that position during game that week....if not then youre simply rewarding the guys who sweat the most during practice or play with most "physicality" yet do not offer your team the best compeitive advantage. hopefully the platoons will lesson on D in 2014 as mattison has now seen a full year of reps from tons of guys of somewhat equal ability, hopefully the cream rises to the top and is rewarded with majority of snaps. and hopefully hoke feels the heat and understands the most talented 22 need to play especially when this year has shown that everyone misses tackles or blocks or drops balls or whiffs blocks regardless of year or experience level
I think Peppers is going to be a great player for Michigan but I also remember reports of Boubacar dominating these types of events.
If anyone is interested, we do have other recruits in the UA All-American Game and hopefully there is a comprehensive update late. As I recall, Brian Mone, Drake Harris, Michael Ferns, Wilton Speight and a few others are down there as well. Actually, the fact that we have so many recruits playing in this game - Peppers included - is pretty intriguing in itself, in my opinion, and rather exciting.
Are there but wont play due to injuries.
Wangler is also out but present due to injuries.
I just hope the staff is brave enough to play him some on offense, as opposed to not wanting to "overwhelm" him by adding to his nickel back role. I think his upside on defense is highest, but may be most ready to affect the outcome of games as an offensive player at this point in his development.