Ivan Maisel goes too far

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November 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 PM
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MrWoodson
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Ivan Maisel goes too far

It's one thing for UM fans to mock our defense, because we do it with pain and love and desperate hope for improvement, but Ivan Maisel is now calling out our defense and making a joke of it. This has gone on long enough.

UM Defense -- please make Maisel eat his words this weekend. Don't do it for the fans. Don't do it for the program. Do it for yourselves. You are way better than this.

... if insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, then the Michigan defense may need a competency hearing.

The three winningest programs in the history of college football -- Michigan, Texas and Notre Dame -- are a combined 13-12. The Wolverines are 5-3, thanks to their Brett Favre defense -- neither one knows how to get off the field

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=575...

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November 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 PM | Its fair game until someone (Score:1)
dothepose
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Its fair game until someone does something about it.  I don't see this as awful or anything just the truth. Worse things have been said, just ask Charlie Villanueva.

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 PM | Uhh if you think that is (Score:1)
MaizeAndBlueManGroup
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Uhh if you think that is going too far, im guessing you stayed away from the MGoBoard this week.

Keep believing

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 PM | Nope (Score:1)
MrWoodson
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Read most of it.

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 PM | Snap! (Score:1)
MrWoodson
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Wow, you got me with that one.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 PM | Hey we are an easy target at (Score:1)
Blue in sec country
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Hey we are an easy target at this point.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 PM | Maisel is a touche-wad.  It's (Score:1)
bluenyc
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Maisel is a touche-wad.  It's not the first time this year, he has ripped on us and it won't be the last. 

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 PM | He's a bundle of clever (Score:1)
GoBlueInNYC
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He's a bundle of clever comebacks?

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

November 4th, 2010 at 2:29 AM | Ohhhh (Score:1)
sbeck04
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I see what you did there.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 PM | What world do you live in (Score:1)
mejunglechop
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What world do you live in that Maisel's comments go too far, but this http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/things-more-competent-2010-michigan-defense is kosher? If anything being made fun of by your own fans should be more offensive to the team.

Galileo was also chastised.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 PM | a lot of people on this board (Score:1)
Geaux_Blue
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are making fun of some young men that are being forced into action way sooner than they should have. which is a giant shame.

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 PM | It's "interesting" (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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It's an "interesting" topic of discussion because, on one hand, the players are probably harder on themselves than anyone but, on the other, these are 18-19 year-old kids that people are denigrating in some instances. I have tried to temper my critique with the latter in mind but I am probably an offender at times as well. Its always hypocritical though because I could obviously never perform at that level myself.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 PM | i think we all have argh'd (Score:1)
Geaux_Blue
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and used a player or two's name in vain but when it gets to calling them out in a way you would never rip your friend's kid, etc... it gets a bit far

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 PM | And being much more critical (Score:1)
mejunglechop
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And being much more critical than some rando WWL "expert". Why the OP thinks that what's been said on this board is OK while what Maisel said isn't is beyond me.

Galileo was also chastised.

November 4th, 2010 at 2:21 AM | but (Score:1)
umchicago
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it's RRs fault that all these frosh and sophs are playing...

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 PM | Absolutely! (Score:1)
UM97GOBLUE
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I see nothing wrong with this at all. Just because we're Michigan doesnt mean that people cant make fun of us. Until the defense steps up then theyre fair game.

I hate it though. I dont like being the laughing stock any more than you do. Go Blue.

ForeverBlue..."The team! The team! The team!"

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 PM | Honestly, I was expecting a (Score:1)
mgokev
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Honestly, I was expecting a lot worse.  Our defense is bad.  I'm sure many mgousers have said much worse while yelling at their TV's than "You don't know how to get off the field" and needing "competency".

GO BLUE

November 4th, 2010 at 12:30 AM | Yeah, (Score:1)
Ann Arbor Cardinal
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he could have been much more harsh and still have been accurate.

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 PM | At least (Score:1)
jhackney
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we got compared to Brett Favre. It could have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, Troy Smith, or something worse!

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 PM | Wow....i was expecting (Score:1)
mGrowOld
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Wow....i was expecting something that was....was.....i dunno...less true I guess.  TRUST me....way worse stuff was written on this board in the 24 hours after last Saturday's game.

Hell....l if I didn't  post stuff more over the top Sunday morning I"m pretty sure I yelled far, far worse at my TV Saturday night and I know damn well I thought it.

 

 

November 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 PM | he's paid to evoke emotion.  (Score:1)
ish
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he's paid to evoke emotion. 

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 PM | If you clicked on the link, (Score:1)
mmccrae
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If you clicked on the link, he won

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 PM | Being put in the same (Score:1)
This is Michigan
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Being put in the same sentence as Notre Dame is a little more disheartening than anything else said.

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 PM | NOT MY FAULT (Score:1)
Happy Jack
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it's not my fault the defense sucks....just for the record, guys.

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 PM | What incorrectly based (Score:1)
Run 2 Daylight
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What incorrectly based reference did he make?

Go Blue!

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 PM | Honestly, that's about right. (Score:1)
bronxblue
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Honestly, that's about right.  This may be the worst defense in UM's history, and I feel like I've been saying that for 3 years now.

November 4th, 2010 at 12:16 AM | Sounds like he spoke the (Score:1)
WorldwideTJRob
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Sounds like he spoke the truth to me

November 4th, 2010 at 2:11 AM | i'm seriously in favor of a (Score:1)
griesecheeks
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i'm seriously in favor of a punt block formation on every play... i mean, it's what you do when you get really pissed off in football video games, right? 

some of you need thicker skin if these comments are considered "too far". 

we've already established that Greg Robinson has a learning disability. it's time for him to save his breath, and from the sideline, simply point at the opponent's QB

'my head take's a lickin' but it keeps on tickin' just the same'

November 4th, 2010 at 2:37 AM | Haha (Score:1)
sbeck04
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The look on people's faces when you sneakily break out the punt block and stuff them for -5 only to be resumed by the 4-2-5 interception machine is priceless

November 4th, 2010 at 5:02 AM | It really is up to our (Score:1)
tlh908
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It really is up to our defense to prove him wrong, but that will be harder now with Floyd gone.  We need a little perspective, these are young college men putting forth a lot of effort.  They will be exciting to watch to next year with the extra experience.

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