The school confirmed it to The News, saying Jones "is no longer enrolled" at the university. So the rumors in general were correct. But the specifics remain mysterious -- the school wouldn't comment about the reason for the young man's exit.
Had high hopes for him.
I thought he might start by mid year.
This one hurts.
WTF did he do? I haven't even heard enough to call it a rumor, I've only heard that he is gone.
made a comment on the web that Kellen had ALLEGEDLY, done something, IF proven true, of a potentially criminal nature at worst, and very bad behavior at least.
this seriously blows balls
a shame. I was hoping for some big things from him.
Another RR recruiting casualty strikes again. If we didn't have so many good LB's coming in, I would be a lot more pissed off. At this point I just hope the rumors weren't true and Kellen gets things straightened out for himself.
I really don't know how you can blame RR for this. By all accounts, Kellen seemed like a good kid and I, for one, did not see any of this coming.
In his defense, I don't think he's really blaming RR. I took it more as a reference to the recent meme about RR recruits who have faced misfortunes lately.
I am not blaming him. It's just that RR had some bad luck in this area and it has happened again. Jones seems like a great kid which is why this is a head scratcher.
Gotcha, sorry for getting defensive. I just can't stand when people blame him for stuff that he no longer is responsible for.
Don't blame you, I was a RR guy myself. At times you almost have to laugh at the bad luck he had while at Michigan just to keep from going insane. I hope RR catches a much deserved break at his next stop.
Some douche at the NYP already ripped him. I saw a bit of RR on CBS during signing day coverage and really enjoyed his commentary.
he is just citing the snakebit nature of some of RR's recruits, which is perhaps the kharmic remedy for snake oil.
also, if i understand correctly, kellen and his dad actually recruited michigan more than vice versa.
its a sad situation for ALL parties involved, beyond football
Because blaming RR here is like Obama camp blaming everything on Bush. And Bush people then blaming everything on Clinton.
Recruiting is incredibly difficult, its easy to look at pictures of these kids who look like 30 year olds and forget they are actually 18. Lots of things could cause this, the least of which was RR
Shall I go with trolling or flamebait? So many good choices here.
Rain in the forecast this weekend. RR to blame! More at 11.
EDIT: My bad if you weren't blaming RR and just saying RR had bad luck with recruits.
At a certain point, though, "bad luck" just becomes "bad."
he made about lighting up MSU running backs. He was one of the recruits I really wanted to see in action. I wish him well, and hope he fixes the issues that he has.
Also: Detroit News Article. Confirms Pace is a medical hardship and no longer on the team.
2009 had only 2 OL recruits. 2010 had 1 (Pace). 2011 has 3. 5 OL across 3 recruiting classes is going to cause problems.
Hopefully the 2012 OL class can be as productive as the 2008 class, because they're going to be called upon early.
So what the heck was RR thinking? God knows he wasn't spending too much time recruiting talent on defense.
Hoke signed on and focused on Defense in the '11 class even though the need was already evident. Fisher was an elite spread-offense OT who de-committed when Rodriguez left and Hoke failed to retain.
Also, when Carr left Rodriguez inhereted an even worse situation, necessitating the 6 person class in '08, which is part of why RR did what he did... At least Hoke has a strong group through 2011 and 2012 with Omameh, Banum, Khoury, Schofield, Lewan, and maybe Mealer.
I think you can spread the OL blame around between three coaching staffs.
I think if timing had worked out a little better, both he and Zettel would have been blue. Tough to blame either, none of the Hoke awesomeness had really been flushed out by signing day. Zettel really didn't want to play in a 3-3-5, and though he inquired around (supposedly) after GMAT was brought on, by that point his mind had probably settled on PSU.
Hoke visited Fisher's home I think as often as he was allowed. He was certainly a priority, probably THE priority of the staff. But who the hell knew Hoke at that time? Tough to compete with a stable coach (at least at that time) who's just appeared in the NC game, running the offense RR's been selling to Fisher for a year.
Just didn't work out, but "failed to retain" is a little harsh given the circumstances. There was the Flavin kid we contacted but never offered - maybe we should have been hard after him from Day 1 given the lack of depth (he seemed like a fallback plan for Fisher and probably knew it, staying committed to Illinois). But Fisher moving on is a casualty of the CC, not something to put on Hoke.
Nope. It was RR's fault. Pretty easy to see that.
Which is about all you can get unless you're throwing scholarships at projects. A lot of that 2008 class were Carr recruits who stayed. And Rich lost two linemen in 2008 that he inherited before spring. And it's not offset by landing more players along the way there. But we have a huge collection of so-so slot receivers.
OMG, there are holes everywhere. I can (have to) spend 6 scholarships on OL. I hope they work out because after that I'll have to focus elsewhere.
Not that Pace would be a contributor this year but that hurts depth at the present.
Current Schollie linemen=11, 3 of them true frosh.
For the future, my guess is Khoury/Mealer/Barnum will be the centre next season and Jack Miller better be a quick learner because he'd probably be #1 by default come 2013.
P.I.P. Hope he can recover.
Wouldn't really be appropriate to speculate based on what the rumor is but if it's true then it's a legal problem.
Because it's still only a rumor.
Whether it's true or false has yet to be confirmed, and we don't have any of the facts. Given the nature of the allegation, it's best IMO that we just leave it at Kellen messed up and let's see what happens.
Jesus I wish folks would get over themselves. You are on the internet, where rumors are born, live, run wild and free forever. Either adapt to life on this new planet or perish.
Hey, if people want to discuss it, then they will and that's their prerogative.
I just hope they remember that the Jones' family reads the blog and might very well read this thread. Can't speak for anyone else but if my son/daughter was in that situation, I probably wouldn't want to read what a bunch of message board posters not involved in the situation thought. At least until you know, details are actually confirmed...
You're putting words in my mouth. I'm trying to show some consideration for an 18 year old kid who may or may not but probably did make a mistake, whose family might read this. You don't like my stance, that's fine.
I see what you are saying, but I have not seen one instance where people have derogated or passed judgment on Kellen here. They have just stated what the rumors were. Maturity rather than censorship has ruled here. And that says a great deal about the folks here - if we can state rumors like that, and THEN withhold judgement and not condemn him, then to me that says more about the folks here than demanding censorhsip does. Its a much more mature approach.
And I agree with you.
I'm trying to show some consideration for an 18 year old kid who may or may not but probably did make a mistake
Out of curiosity, do you feel sympathy for everyone who is booted out of school, or just the ones that happen to play football?
Didn't say I was sympathetic, just that I didn't feel it was worth talking about under the circumstances. I have no respect for individuals who are accused of what Kellen is in this rumor, there's just little to be gained in this case until we know more.
Here's what we know: Brady Hoke has already passed judgment on him. At this point it really doesn't matter whether we hold our tongue or not. He's not, and never will be, part of this program.
This is true and there is something to that. He'd know the situation better then all of us and nothing he's done so far makes me question his judgment.
I just think that given the allegation and any form of connection between the blog and his family, it's prudent that we not try and go into details when we don't know the facts is all. Too delicate a situation.
I question him giving a scholarship to a 2 star 215lb fullback, but that's another story.
Double post. Please neg.
Because it's the kind of accusation that you can't unhear. It's a sticky one, and not to be thrown around casually.
said he was kicked off the team for assaulting a female. No one has confirmed this yet