Is it better to care more or less about college football?
I live in SEC country. There are two related sports talk shows here on two different stations, both now affiliated with ESPN. One of the shows features Paul Finebaum, whose show is a bizarre combination of legitimate interviews with actual coaches and media figures and redneck freaks who call regularly and hang way too much of their identities on the success or failure of the teams they follow. If you've ever listened to the show you know what I mean.
So Paul Finebaum is now writing a book about the rabid college football fans in the southeast and how they have affected the overall culture of the sport etc. I think Paul is proud of this. Lots of his callers actually seem to link the success of the SEC to the failures of the south during the Civil War and reconstruction. It's their revenge against the Yankee carpet baggers who took their dignity.
So all that is to lead into this: after reading the posts by angry Michigan fans calling for Brady Hoke's firing, lamenting how the Big 10 is irrelevant and plays horrible football, abusing and dog cursing 18-21 year old kids who work unbelievably hard each week to succeed, I think the problem is not Michigan football, but college football itself. I was upset today that Michgan lost. I felt like I had been kicked in the nuts. I feel like Michigan State is especially personal because I have family who went there, who hate Michigan because UM grads are "arrogant" and elitist etc. But in the grand scheme of things, who cares? Isn't it healthier to root for your team and move on?
Paul Finebaum and the entire SEC are an embarrassment to what college education is/should be all about. More importantly, they have made a mockery of what it means to be a student athlete. Will it ever be possible to back off of this madness and get some perspective?
I guess what I'm saying is that I think it's time to start caring less about college athletics -- or at least for fans of college teams to stop attaching so much of their own identities to what happens on the field between kids who are barely able to drink and vote. It doesn't matter that much. Find something else to care about that actually matters.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:52 PM ^
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:11 AM ^
Who cares about football, We're a basketball school anyways!
November 3rd, 2013 at 7:34 AM ^
"Sometimes it hurts the whole week, like cutting your nails way too short on Sunday night."You, Sir, win the Interwebs today.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^
Haha, I made a very similar post after our loss to PSU. I decided then that I wanted to back off a bit - still root for Michigan of course, but try to care a bit less about whether or not we win or lose. And here I am, having a great day despite an awful loss which I watched all the way through. You can do it too!
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:44 PM ^
I'm finally at that point. It's no longer a question of whether I have an unhealthy relationship with my team, it is a fact that I have an unhealthy relationship with my team. To the point where it transcends sports and into my personal life. I'm full of schadenfreude today, I know, but I'm just sort of burnt out from Michigan football.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:46 PM ^
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:49 PM ^
* I'm full of material that other people might consider schadenfreude. That work?
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:52 PM ^
Joy in another's suffering. So you are providing a source of it for others. Enjoy your night good sir.
November 3rd, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:43 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:51 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:51 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:45 PM ^
You can care all you want, but as soon as it starts negatively effecting your mood and altering your relationships with people you care about it's gone too far. This goes for most things in life.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:47 PM ^
Well some of my high tuition money went to the coach ( btw the michigan football coach is one of the highet paying state workers)
Now going to the game as a regular fan it is still expensive to attend
The "M" block is the most sold and most iconic college figure
Donations after donations after donation by many wealthy alums
What else??? Jerseys, shirts, sweaters, pants... Anything that says michigan cost a lot
High end football facilities that cost millions and millions
So at the end all i want is for this team to fuckin win and make us proud. As i mentioned above a lot gets invested on college teams now days so fans have every right to have high expectations and sit here and bitch non stop
College football is on another level, those days of "its just another game day" dont exist.. I expect good elite schools with long traditions like UofM to perform..PERIOD
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:32 PM ^
and has not been for many years. To truly face reality, the program is not elite at this point. Is it a classy program steeped in tradition and have a great history? Most definitely, yes. But Alabama, LSU, OSU, Oregon, Stanford, maybe even USC and Oklahoma are elite or close to it. Michigan is not, and hasn't been in that class for a while now.
OSU is so far ahead of Michigan at this point and Alabama status is a dream for programs like Michigan that we may never get there again. I'm not trying to be a downer, but looking at it realistically, if Michigan remains stedfast to doing IT the RIGHT way and staying tied to it's old school tradition and history, it cannot keep up with the elite programs.
I'm not advocating cheating or breaking rules, but the coach being a Michigan Man or having to truly "understand" the tradition and history may keep us from getting back or even near the top. To compete at the level that Bama, LSU and even OSU do, we might have to leave some things in the past. OSU changed coaches and had one bad season and haven't lost a game in almost two seasons and they aren't even in the MNC talk.
Bama is probably going to win it all again and that is because it is the ONLY thing they strive for. Michigan talks about B1G Champtionships. This conference is at best, fourth among the top conferences. And Michigan is not even in the top four in its own conference.
We have a long way to go and Michigan may have to embrace the horror of another search for the coach to bring them back to true relevance in the next couple of years. UNtil we get one of the elite coaches and find a way to get some elite talent and speed and DEVELOP it, we will be watching the best play from our living rooms while Michigan plays somewhere else.
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM ^
wow, I am a little bit depressed after reading this. Entirely because I agree with you.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:48 PM ^
I understand why you don't want to invest emotion in this but I'm sorry guys, the football gods have caught up to us. I just hope the future projections that we expect come to reality. If not, another coaching change will be upon us in 2 years.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^
This post only shows up on the board of a losing team. Care about your team and have fun but it's just a game fergodsakes.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:56 PM ^
As you can see by my profile pic I am a Buckeye fan. I couldn't get your game today on TV so I came here to read the updates.........
I'm not going to lie and pretend I didn't enjoy the loss, at the time. But the fact is your football program is making the best rivalry in all of college football meaningless. It's not just this year. It's been quite a few years now.
I wish that you weren't so much like the Arrogant A$$es we think you are. In your eyes a coach is a great coach as long as he's a "Michigan Man" (even though some of your best coaches and players are from Ohio). When Meyers came to tOSU all you do do is say he was cheat and a quitter. But what he really is, is an elite coach that wins. You can have an elite coach without compromising your standards. Didn't Lyod, RR and now Hoke compromise your football standards?
I hope you act and do something to stop the decline in your program because I don't want this rivalry to die and it looking like it will if things don't change. Hoke is not helping your program, YOU are settling for mediocracy. If I know anything about Michigan, it is not medicore.
I hope you do something to turn this mess of a football program around. We need each other to be good, or at least competive.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:04 PM ^
we're still going to kick your ass. LOL
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:10 PM ^
Well I doubt that, but hope it's competitive. That's one game that I don't want to see be a blowout. Meyers may different ideas........
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:13 PM ^
Try to put together a cogent sentence, even if you're just here to troll.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:57 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:17 PM ^
Who is "Meyers"? (hint: there is no "s" at the end of the Ohio State coache's name)
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:59 PM ^
The son of this guy-
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:18 PM ^
Please learn how to spell the name of your coach.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 PM ^
Nothing will be better than seeing OSU go undefeated again and not make the National Championship game.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^
Interesting comment. Why wouldn't tOSU make the Championship game? Becuz the teams they play, Michigan included sucked this year. So if we don't make it's becuz you sucked. Remember when the game meant a title? No more. Does that make you feel better? geeezz
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:15 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:21 PM ^
I'm done here. I didn't come here to be rude but you sure did a good job at chaging that. I guess your arrogance means more to you then anything. Hope it comforts you in medicorasy land for years to come. Keep making excuses, don't hire anything but "Michigan Men" and keep having days like today.
Oh, last thing, scUM would be nothing without coaches and players from Ohio. You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:27 PM ^
Farewell, chimarie, we hardly knew ye.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:45 PM ^
This has to be a false flag double reverse troll.
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:06 AM ^
It's kind of hard to not look down on you because of your amazing spelling.
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:05 AM ^
Mediocracy... Definitely a Buckeye lol!
How about our coach exhibit the integrity of a soap dish and outright lie for months to keep ineligible players eligible, then get unceremoniously fired, and then the next year be brought back and celebrated in front of 100,000 adoring fans who care more about winning than about setting a good example or integrity?
What you'll never get is that while we like winning, and expect to be good at it, The Game is not the biggest source of pride to Michigan students and alums. Not being you is. Meaning, doing things the right way is. We'd never compromise that, and if our coaches ever did, I guarantee you 100,000 of our fans wouldn't clown ourselves by hoisting them up and celebrating them the year after.
November 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 AM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:56 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:57 PM ^
While you might have a legitimate point that I probably agree with, it's kind of lame to make it right after a loss to a rival.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:18 PM ^
Probably so. I'm just trying to make myself feel better. I don't want this to drag into Thursday like it did with the PSU loss.
November 2nd, 2013 at 10:57 PM ^
I've been realizing how brutal CFB is lately. Every week is The Most Important Game of the Year of the Week. Every game is make or break and has huge implications for the season. I'm starting to prefer hockey and basketball just because its so much less stressful. At least in those two tournaments you just have to win most of your games to get into the NCAA tournament. You're got to go undefeated to enter the FBS 'tournament'. Its exhausting.
November 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 AM ^
I totally agree with you. It really sucks that losing one game essentially eliminates your chances for a national title. I like college football way more than professional football in almost every way. The one thing that is nice about the pros is that you can lose and not be done for the season... you are still fighting for the playoffs... not really the case in college even though you can still fight for your conference championship...
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 PM ^
To link a blimp in the trend line in the sporting world to "The South Will Rise Again" is about the dumbest thing I've heard all week - and its been a long week of really dumb things. Its about as dumb as saying Japan beating the US in women's soccer is payback for WWII.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:05 PM ^
I don't know man. I'm from the South, and I can pretty much confirm that every time we play an SEC team it's all I can do to stop myself from putting on some jorts and letting out a rebel yell or two. My family was NOT pleased when I CLANGA CLANGA'D all through the 2011 Gator Bowl.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:06 PM ^
I think those of us that follow these blogs, follow recruiting, watch all these interviews, etc. get emotionally invested in these teams, these players, and these coaches. It makes it very difficult to get over it when they lose. And, by the same token we celebrate with them when they win. I fully believe we take the wins and loses harder than the kids...they just move on. This is one of the problems with the business of college football. There is all this content that gives us all this access to these kids, players, and programs that before the internet we had no part of. Only people in the program or who covered the teams knew this stuff. Now everyone with a cell phone or computer knows every detail of the program. That makes it a business, but it also makes it very cut throat. It's like any business where margins are small and it's extremely competitive. I don't think it's generally good for us or them, other than financially. But, that is the world, or at least country we live it...it is capitalism. Money comes before the health, wellfare, etc. of people. But, what am I gonna say because here I am with everyone else that can't get enough.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:08 PM ^
I learned over 30 years ago not to invest too much emotionally in sports teams wins or losses. The internet, though, and sports blogs seem to intensify the emotions for some. I can only imagine what it would have been like if the internet had been around when Bo was coaching. There would have been a drumbeat to fire his ass after every Bowl loss.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^
It's cool to be passionate about sports, but like triangle_M said, when it reaches the point where it's having a negative impact on your life, your relationships, your own personal well-being, then it's time to take a step back and re-evaluate why you're watching sports in the first place.
If you find that it's having a net negative impact on your life, then maybe you need to stop following sports, or perhaps a better solution, change the way you watch sports.
I read the open threads and some of you are downright scary. Exhibiting some major signs of borderline personality disorder.
You can say, "Whoa TheLastHoke, calm down, it's just the internet," but wasn't that one of the goals of MGoBlog? Striving to be better than the internet, and to rise above the fray, in terms of both content and discussion?
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:20 PM ^
...at this point? Less.