The irrationality of fandom.

The Dark Side is easier

There is patience for Hoke and Mattison, but the patience for Borges has run out.

You thought we'd get our ass kicked? Nice analysis

Make. It. Stop.

Look in every season there are a limited amount of opportunities to win a game and there are even less opportunities to prove yourself against the best teams on your schedule (maybe 3-4 per season). In those opportunities, legends and losers are made. Borges has not proven that in big, yet limited, opportunities that he belongs. We have a shining example of what a coach with limited talent, talent not on par with previous Michigan teams, can accomplish...and that guy is Greg Mattison. He's not a magician, he's not lucky, but he is smart and he's a winner. The sooner we accept this reality, the better.

I like to believe Hoke will win a National Title here. But it will never happen with an OC who can't adjust and call good plays in big games. Borges is holding the program back.

It's funny how the succession of posts after a loss mimic the stages of grief. 

I enjoyed going back and reading the title of an article that said something along the lines of "Borges excited to get creative with Devin and Denard."  He must of had a busy week and forgot to do it.

Is getting paid for every post today. He will be able to retire by halftime of the Notre Dame game.

I enjoyed going back and reading the title of an article that said something along the lines of "Borges excited to get creative with Devin and Denard."  He must of had a busy week and forgot to do it.

Fan is short for FANATIC.

Patience? Sure, let me bury myself for another 11 years and come back and see if we have 1 win against OSU in those 11 years. Remember all those years under Carr with bad coaching and losing to OSU? it was always "1 more year" "get better recruits" "better playcalling" ... My friends the future is here. We're still losing.

Posters calling for "rationality"... "balance" need to relax because if we had won you'd be whooping and hollering. Note for life: Don't get in front of a train. It will run you over. Mfan emotions are that train given the outcome.

Rather than trying to be Mr. Sensible Michigan Man, just the let the emotion play out, come back. Otherwise, you're pissing in the wind and given your attitude, you'd probably patiently wait for the wind to stop blowing.

I agree with the upwardly trending notion.  It is interesting that you mention Beilein.  Along the line he made adjustments to his coaching staff.  

I see things black and white. Can't agree with you. But respect your position.

Didn't B_ see his assistants weren't working and made a change?

What is irrational about questioning Borges' capabilities after that game? After the whole season? I have great hope for the future but Ohio is basically in the same rebuilding position we are at this point and our coaches blew it. We'll get better, but they will too. I'm less bullish on the future after this game.

tends to mostly get it right. Borges had several brainfart series, but he also called a great first half. We turned the ball over three times, and ran a bad fourth down play. Wish Denard and Devin had been on the field together at the end, but Denard couldn't block for Devin long enough to let the passes we needed develop (or that seemed to be the rationale). Game over. 

OSU carried Tressel onto the field at the end of the first quarter and 105,000 people saluted his corrupt ass. Still glad we're not them. 

I think we should have Beilein fire Borges.  He knows what's up.

Lets hire Jim Tressel, he'll change the rivalry in ohio. 

in what the trend in Michigan football is and what the future holds.

A few hours after watching your offensive coordinator spit the bit in the biggest game of the year is a perfectly rational time to express your displeasure

If I look pre-Rich Rod, because to me that was an aboration, we are producing at the level we were in Carr's last year, (same record) but don't have the talent level yet.  The key word there is yet, because I don't think it's fair to judge a coach until year 4 or 5 when the team is filled by his recruits only.  That being said, we had pretty good talent in Carr's last year but unfortunately Henne and Hart were injured much of the year.  And, even though we had talent we couldn't beat OSU.  So, I think Hoke has really reinvigorated us and our fanbase.  He has instilled a toughness that we lacked.  We do a better job focusing on our rivalries and emphasizing them.  We have fared much better against OSU and ND, two of our main rivals.  But, we still have some issues that need to be addressed.

Righ now our o-line is killing us.  That is addresed IMO in recruiting, it just needs to develop.  That is easy to take solace, hard because it will still be bad next year.  We are also weak on the back end with DBs.  I think that has been addressed in recruiting already, but needs to develop.  Our interior d-line was questionable at the beginning of the season.  They have played better than I thought, but are not exactly elite either.  I think Poggi/Pipkins will be all-conference caliber, but we need more depth.  We have Gardner at QB who appears to be pretty good and we may get him for 2 years, then get a highly rated recruit.  We still have Fitz who I think is good, and have another year to land an elite RB.  Our linebackers have been addressed and for once will be a strong suit.  My concerns now pash rushing DEs, big play WR, and elite RB (by 2014).  These are very real weaknesses that we have not fixed yet.  

Now the problem is it's not enough to get good players at these positions, they need to be better than OSU's.  I have said I'm concerned going forward of OSU's pass defense by having two great pass rushers in Washington and Spense, and two great corners in Woodard and Burrows, who are also taller than half of our recievers by the way.  At the other positions I think we are just as good if not better going forward.  We got killed in the trenches today, but I don't see that as an issue in 2014 and beyond.  But, our weaknesses and their strengths are areas of concern.  Their corners are still big, physical, and fast when compared to our recievers.  Their pass rush is much more effective than ours, even without their best pass rusher.  And, their recievers have the ability to break plays down field that we simply don't seem to have the ability to make.

So, yes we have developed a toughness and a focus on our rivals that we lacked in the Carr years.  Yes, we have fared better against ND and OSU that we did in the Carr years.  No, we are not at the talent level of Carr's era yet, but it's not fair to judge for another 2-3 years and it appears that we will eventually be.  But, we always must compare it to OSU and I have some concerns, but it looks as though we will be pretty evenly matched with them and have close games.  We just need to either win those close games and/or defend our home field.  It will eventually turn into manball again and will be interesting to see who wins these matchups going forward.  I refrain from judging until 2014.

crop of freshmen. The existing players will have to step into what might seem like big shoes to them. Every one of them is going to lay it on the line for themselves, their teammates, and the Block M. I'll buy a drink for the first person to convince me that they are not deserving of the support of the fan base without all the whining and crying.