- Fitz's injury (doesn't look pretty)
- Gardner OMG Shirtless
- Using Denard (slot/RB): what will we see next week?
- Denard's health
- Defensive performance
I am sad that Denard didn't get the last snap. Seems crappy to have him watch the end on the sidelines, one of the greatest running QBs ever
Not that Jack Kennedy didn't deserve it...but it's Denard
I don't think Denard could. Victory formation is run under-center, and I imagine that's probably difficult to run with one hand.
Fortunately, there was still something special that M could do to honor a different senior on the last snap.
It looked like he wanted to go out there but the strength coach held him back. Give to Kennedy, not a totally undeserving dude.
Good move to let Kennedy have the last snap this week. Hope is saving the kneel down next week for Denard.
Denard isn't the only senior on this team and you could argue that Kennedy deserved it more. His position on this team doesn't allow for playing time unless something disasterous happens or the game is beyond being out of hand and bet your ass he works just as hard as everyone else.
On top of that, Denard is the kind of guy that even if they would have sent him out I could easily see him ask for Kennedy to take his place. Dude is classy like that!!
Only by severely dancing around reality and ignoring most typical definitions of what it is to deserve something could you argue that Jack Kennedy deserved to take the last snap over Denard.
It is not uncommon for guys that never play to get some snaps in garbage time of a game. It is also not uncommon for a senior backup quarterback to see some snaps on senior day, especially with the game completely in hand. No one is ever going to look back on Michigan football and forget about Denard. Giving Jack Kennedy a kneel down in his last game at home probably means a whole lot to a guy who has stuck it out through the coaching transitions and bad football but doesn't get the press that other guys do. So yeah, as far as Hoke, the other seniors, and the rest of this team are concerned (and it really is all about the team) Kennedy deserved that kneel down. His parents deserved to see him get that kneel down. The fans deserved to see him take the last snap, albeit a useless snap, in his last home game ever. Stars like Denard have their time, give the role players and backups their time as well.
Nice dancing moves! Yes invoke Jack Kennedy's family over the very face of the program for the last three years! Well done
That is all you took from my post?
Your post to me argues that in fact he deserved it less, but would enjoy it more.
So yeah, as far as Hoke, the other seniors, and the rest of this team are concerned (and it really is all about the team) Kennedy deserved that kneel down. His parents deserved to see him get that kneel down. The fans deserved to see him take the last snap
No it doesn't. It probably meant a lot to Kennedy and he would enjoy it more, and that's WHY he deserved it. That's also probably why it was given to him. Hoke clearly felt Kennedy deserved the last snap of the game or he wouldn't have gotten it.
Senior Day isn't about recognizing how talented the top players are. Today is a day to step back and recognize the incredible fortitude it takes to spend four or five years putting blood sweat and tears into Michigan football, and Kennedy did that just as well as Denard did. I don't think it hurts anyone to give Kennedy this honor, and I certainly don't think people will judge Denard's career by taking or not taking a victory formation snap in a 42-10 blowout.
Dude I don't disagree, I don't really care that much to be honest. All I said was, I think it's clownish to argue that in some sense, Jack Kennedy DESERVES it more. Letting him get the final snap is fine by me on multiple levels, but one of them is not that he somehow deserves it more. That's stupid
is still my favorite player.
I think Brian Griese has an mgoblog account.
Also, Denard's 16 should be a legends number and he will always be number one in my heart.
Denard's sweep, throw back to devin, bomb to dileo
IT...DG has a lot. He was seriously toying around out there making plays. Can't wait to see how he responds in the horseshoe.
Agree. He looked like he wasn't even trying, which is how the truly great ones play.
Ah yes, reminds me of Chauncy, Rip, Tay, and Sheed in their latter years with the Pistons. So talented, and yet they made it appear they were just sauntering around the court at their leisure, sulking around the three-point line, completing giving up on defense when things stopped going their way. Bitching at the coach.
Truly great ones, them. Indeed.
I'm pretty pissed we didn't score 50+.
We could have had free tacos.
Very pleasantly surprised that they're getting Denard on the field in other ways.
Feel terrible for Fitz... And Ouch!
I totally told a friend earlier this week that I'd like to see Denard utilized in that fashion. As long as he can hold the ball, he's really one of the scariest players out there and our only credible rushing threat.
OT I guess no one's going to talk about the SEC teams pretty much only playing 1AA schools this week. If a different conference did that it would be discussed how pathetic it was. Thoughts?
They discussed this during the game. No need to be that guy. They start conference play earlier. The teams wanted to do rival games this week and then have a week off before the title game and the conference said no.
So they get a free pass because conference play starts earlier and they have rivalry games next week but people can spew crap about MAC-tion weekend in September and then it turns out the MAC is pretty good?
I don't agree. They deserve to have shit talked about them because the only one doing anything like a top-10 team is Alabama.
The only difference between the SEC and everyone else is that they save one cupcake for late in the year and everyone else gets them all out of the way early. It makes absolutely no difference in overall schedule strength.
When we were playing UMass, Florida was playing Texas A&M. Now we're playing conference games and they get Eastern-Northwest-State-Tech-College. It all evens out.
Hell more conferences should try it. A, you spread out the conference slate. B, early conference games is better than watching cupcakes, more people will watch
Can we also give Borges a lot of credit for getting Denard involved and contributing even though he obviously wasn't 100%? I think that Borges called a pretty good game (hopefully this is a sign of things to come next year).
I get it's 3 low teams, but his 190.2 would be number one by a long shot. Mariota leads at 176 among those who qualify. (Don't know about others who don't have the minimum number of games.)
If you want a comparison, go check stats for geno smith or Johnny football against 3 middle of their conference teams.
Spartan tears taste like pizza.
merely because your avatar exists.
Don't mock them. They may be the best 5-6 team in the country. Or at least you'd have to include them in the conversation if you're ever having a discussion about the best 5-6 teams out there.
"Michigan State plans to make Notre Dame next victim of 'The Woodshed'"
I can attest, watching bowl games from them is quite comfortable.
THAT is most definitely a snowflake. Thank you good sir, thank you indeed.
I would like to say that Devin Gardner once again makes me feel very confident about 2013 with a 12/18 performance for 314 passing yards and 3 TDs in the air, as well as 9 carries for 37 yards and 3 rushing TDs. Another great game from Gardner.
To add to that, in three games, he has gone 46/70 for 834 yards with 7 TDs and 3 INTs. If he qualified for the NCAA leaderboard, I believe he would now be #1. Even if it is three bad teams, it is an impressive performance for a player who was not even practicing with the QBs a month ago. The six rushing TDs are a great bonus too. He is indeed "formidable", to use Borges' word.
I did enjoy that they found a way to get Denard Robinson not only in the offense but in a way where he was still highly effective. He ends the day with 13 carries for 98 yards, including a great 40 yard run.
as a RB count towards his career QB totals, in terms of chasing Pat White's records? and if so, how far away is he now after these 98?
I second this question
Brady Hoke trolling opportunity by declaring that Denard will start only to play him at RB.
We would have had Devin @ QB & DR @ slot all season?
I think Borges would have shown better play call creativity with DR still having put up crazy numbers.
Either way: I am glad DR was in the field. Now lets go beat Ohio
Backwards gets you a pillar of salt.
If, Borges draws it up right there is a potential for some pretty exciting offense next week with both Devin and Denard on the field at the same time. Hopefully Denard can at least grip the ball to throw some short passes next week so they can't key on run when he lines up at QB.
Didn't teams always key on the run with Denard as QB anyways?
I can't wait to see Gardner perform after he's taken snaps with the "ones" next summer. It's amazing what he's done the past three weeks, particulary since he spent the whole season at WR.
I'm excited about Gardner for next year too (kind of have to be considering the other options), but at the same time, he's already been practicing at QB for two previous year. And he's obviously not shown enough that he wasn't even the back-up. He hasn't been a WR for very long. I think it might be a bit much to expect him to take any 'leap' forward. He'll be better, but I think he's pretty close to what we can expect from him next year. The key for next year is finding a freaking running game.
Last year, his first in a new system, he practiced but saw no meaningful time. This year he played WR for the first half of the season before taking over at QB. In his first three games he's got like 190 QB rating (opponent caveat).
Now what makes you think that practicing at being a QB next spring, working on it in the summer, and having all fall camp won't have any improvement on a guy with 3-4 games played? His weakness: looking at receivers a little too long and throwing a little bit late are things QBs generally get better at. There's no way he's at his ceiling.
Mostly because he's a junior now, and people tend to have certain habits, such as mechanical issues or staring down receivers that don't just go away easily. You see great improvements through the underclass years, which usually slow through the upperclass years.
Plus, he's probably near his ceiling just because he's playing so well. Sure there's some things he can, and will, improve on, but geez, even if he just held serve it would be good.
Basically, I'm just guarding against ridiculous expectations. It's like when Luck came back and threw a couple of INTs, and a lot of (irrational) people were freaking out. He was still the best QB in the nation though.
James Ross...not so great in coverage.
I think this is his GOGOGO factor that Brian's talked so much about coming back to haunt him. He's got great anticipation in the run game, but he bites pretty hard on play-action and route fakes.
Give him some more coaching, I think he'll get past those issues and turn into a great player.
He's young, and sometimes young players get a little overwhelmed and reboot in default mode. Some players' default is tentative, and some is MUST FIND AND KILL SOMETHING BWWWAAAAAAAAA.
Ross is the latter.
I loved the play calling, I hope it continues into next week. Too many times I have seen creative plays the week before Ohio only to never see them again.
There were times when I though UM might have had a tougher time against air than the Iowa defense, especially on 3rd down.
Not sure what to think of the defense. 17 points and 300+ yards against the GERG offense is a lot, though some of that was well after the game was in hand. I think they need to play better next week.
Roundtree and Gallon. Those guys made plays!
Gardner will trun out to be a better QB then Denard. Not as fast, but more athletic overall, strong and more accurate arm, and clearly a better field manager.
Don't get me wrong... love Denard... but I don't think we've seen Gardner in his prime.
I really enjoy watching the videos fans post of the end of the game with the Victors etc. If anyone has one I would love the see the guys celebrating their last time at the stadium.
right now, according to SB Nation. I'm assuming it's his ankle but they don't say for sure
Hoke has beaten every team scheduled the past two years with the exception of (then) #1 Alabama, which is pretty damn cool.
Either I'm missing something or you're drunk - weren't Hoke's 5 losses scheduled games?
This year he's beaten the two teams he lost to last year, while adding only Alabama to the list of losses.
Edit: [insert sparty joke about 6-1 here]
Another way of putting it is that at Michigan, Hoke has beaten every school he's faced at least once, with the exception of Alabama.
Derrick Green come on down? I'll wait for the doctors to confirm that Fitz has a boo-boo and not just a ding, but it seems like he's facing a broken leg and a rehab that will keep him out until fall camp (or later). Damn shame.
That said, do we become even more attractive to Derrick Green? Seems like we have everything working in our favor except location and slimy boosters. He'd enter a running back picture that looks like:
1a. SR Toussaint (off of a major injury, hypothetically)
1b. JR Rawls (I like what I see but hasn't seized the opportunities yet)
2. SO Hayes (More of a chance of pace guy from what I've seen in limited time)
3. FR Johnson (Total wildcard)
At the very least, he'd have a great chance to play as a true freshman. At best, I could easily see him becoming 1c and eventually seizing the job.
Toussaint's injury is not good news at all, but it could become another factor in Green's recruitment.
[EDIT: Forgot about incoming FR Smith. He's not chopped liver and will factor in. But I think that Green has said he isn't deterred by his presence. FR Shallman I expect to RS, and may fill a more specialized role]
Don't forget Norfleet.
I'm not sure how much we'll see of a tiny speedster in a MANBALL offense, but if Hayes is getting carries, you'd think that Norfleet would see at least a few looks at RB
Hoke/Borges's last back at SDSU was tiny and he was the every down guy. He most likely to gain the most yards will play.
I foresee Norfleet being used like Darren Sproles. Slot, backfield, returns...we'll call him a medley back.
Shallman will either end up at SDE or H-Back. He will not be in competition with any of UM's RB's for reps.
Next weeks game will be competitive and huge!
Thank you seniors!!
Extra thank you to Denard!!
Very happy we got a win on Senior Day. The defense needs to play better next week, as I am watching Ohio State right now. Was very happy to see Denard in the offense today. He had over 100 yards when you combine his running and receiving.
i.am too drunk to taste this chicken
I was really ticked when Iowa kicked (and recovered) that onside kick at the end of the game because it prevented UM from getting a full final drive which would have certainly included a final appearance for Denard.
This is a dangerous, balanced offense with DG under center and Denard lining up pretty much anywhere.
Agreed. Devin's statline: 18/23 for 314 yards, 37 yards on rushes, and 6 (!) total TDs. Denard's total YPA this year is 7.9, Devin's in this game was 13.7. You think Borges's offense works better with Devin? I sure do. The rushing game is a problem obviously, but even if we just passed the entire time I think we'd have done fine.
I cancelled on a guy I was supposed to go out with tonight because I found out the Arizona game is on ESPNU (a channel I get!)
I may or may not be drunk and baking a cake right now. WOO!
What red-blooded American male would not want to watch football????
Because I'm just not that into him. =)
I read the above post and immediately thought, "that's the gayest thing I've ever heard." and then I looked at the name and realized it was a woman.
BUT re: the game--
Super sad about Fitz...prayers going up for sure! Also, did anyone else recognize that throwback screen play? I SWEAR that was straight from the UTL playbook.
The Play That Always Works UTL Edition was run from under center with a single setback (see 9:24 in the video below). I can't be sure (no video available yet), but I thought that today's play was run out of the shotgun with a back to either side of Devin. That explains why the D bit so hard on Denard's leaking out to the wide side of the field.
I'm on my phone and it's almost dead so didn't have a lot of time to search. So...
Does anyone know the name of the badass song that's used in the pregame hype videos? I've also heard it played over the PA during warmups.
You said you had to wash your hair! I'm so naive,...