The internet is always right... NOT!

Submitted by 1464 on

Soo... been drinkin' a bit.   Thought that I'd post another topic for us to chew one. 

The internet is nothing if not opinionated.  I've said in the past that I was against the Hoke hire, (12-0 at home, BCS win, embodiment of what's right in CFB), the switch from Tate to Denard, ('bouts to be the rushingest QB in history, smashing every other record too, infectious smile and genuine TEAM mentality), who the hell is Drew Dileo, and why are we recruiting him, (somehow always clutch) and Mr. Gibbons (Keith Stone, brunette girls, as many game winning FGs as anyone in Michigan history).

I present the following, not as flamebait, but as a testament that when things are darkest and we cannot seem to see the light at the end, pieces are coalescing that will rebuild what is broken.  Also, I find it interesting and kind of funny.

 

MGoReaction to the Hoke hire:

(I searched 'Hoke hired' on the MGoSearch and these are among the first comments I found)

God help us: What I need now is to find my tums. This blows.

Please God no.

THE FUCK 

NO NO NO!

please shoot me in the face 

I'm hoping this isn't true. This would mean that both Harbaugh and Miles didn't want to come to Michigan.

 

What's up with that?

Just hearing this makes me want to Zoltan Mesko a puppy 

I'd rather have Wayne Brady than Brady Hoke. Yeah he might make Bryant Gumble look like Malcolm X but he's got those hidden street smarts.

 

 MGoEarlyOpinion of Denard:

(admittedly a much more mixed bag, I couldn't find more but remember a lot of panic towards having Denard step in as the starter)

Does anyone really think Denard's speed deserves all this hype after watching that video? Honestly, he looked quick, but he never took one to the house. Instead of cutting back to find a lane, he just goes out of bounds. I just think if you look at Jeremy Gallon's tape you won't be as impressed with Denard's. Just an observation, perhaps I'm alone in it.

I agree with Obes that it looks like Tate has more wiggle and avoids people better. Robinson, for all his speed didn't seem to do too much juking.

Can he catch the ball??? IMHO.... we need a reality check.. he will not, barring injury to Tate, see significant time at QB. The reality is.... he will take hand-offs, run, and also be used as receiver and return man... Book it, Danno.

 

MGoHelloDrew:

Another player who will never contribute and eats up a scholarship. We don't need another WR either.

Dileo is small, thin, undersized, and runs like Dan Quisenberry. He is not a major college WR or RB.

I really feel sorry for him, because someone is giving him some incredibly bad advice.

 

welker has three things this kid doesn't, speed, acceleration, and leg strength

 

MGoGibbonsCirca2010:

(honestly, probably warranted criticism)

(from our fearless leader)

So of course Brendan Gibbons wins the job. Gibbons made one of four field goals in the first four games last year and biffed an extra point, whereupon he was sat down until the Wisconsin game. He attempted one field goal the rest of the year, that in the Gator Bowl whitewashing. He missed.

The idea of Gibbons hitting the field again gives me hives. At least this time around there's another option, though it's an option that lost out to Brendan Gibbons. Guh.

 

I'm sure there is more, but I need to go to sleep now.

 

 

 

Danwillhor

October 21st, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^

It answered his question and I continue to post here. I'll write what I want, what I feel. It shouldn't be "Michigan as a whole or in general". Michigan fans should be intelligent, decent and open to the opinion of others. I left Scout (largely. Still will look sometimes) and did so not because of the few times I was treated poorly after predictions I was later correct about (said Gardner to WR last year, etc) but more because of how people treated others. This site is just as bad but maybe that is just the internet? Still, don't tell me what to say or think on a forum or anywhere. Wouldn't do it to you. Also, don't care if I'm talking to a "mod" or whatever. Michigan is Michigan because we're not osu or msu, in my eyes. That means, to me, being decent and respectfully open to other fan's opinions.

snarling wolverine

October 21st, 2012 at 11:41 AM ^

As for Hoke, I love the guy, but he hired a great DC in Mattison that really helped the transition.
I don't understand your point here. That Hoke hired Mattison is a huge plus in his favor, not anything against him. Mattison himself has repeatedly said that he would not have gone back to college to work for anyone else.

ca_prophet

October 26th, 2012 at 3:55 PM ^

... this was when I first started feeling optimistic about Hoke's hiring.  Anyone who can get the Raven's defensive coach to come coach your defense has two strong points going for him:

1.  He can persuade talented people to come work for him, and

2.  He lets the talented people do what they do best.

That was a huge turnaround from the GERG/RR pairing (in fairness, if RR had been able to get Casteel, he probably would have let him do what he does best as well).

Hoke has continued to demonstrate that he really does get the fundamentals of managing, and the specifics of coaching college football at Michigan.  He is not an offensive genius, but I will take this tradeoff every day and twice on Saturdays.

 

cbs650

October 21st, 2012 at 12:31 PM ^

RR would have inherited a great QB in Ryan Mallet and decent receiver in tony clemons had he come and adapted intially instead of full on implementing his offense and 3-3-5 defense. Players left because of that. As good as a offensive mind he is, he doesnt in my opinion doesnt manage people as well as hoke does and a hc need that more than a coordinator does. Whatever hoke told denard gave him confidence he would play to his strengths. RR needed to do that with mallet.

BlueSpiceIn SEC.hell

October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 AM ^

         wants this to be his last job  That is why I wanted him here. There is no under-estimating the value of Mattison as a coach and a recruiter, but he doesn't come if someone else is the coach. 

Feat of Clay

October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 AM ^

People are always going to think they know more than they really do.  Plus negativity regarding your own team is good strategy for the bitter & cynical;  when things suck you can take comfort in being "right" and when things are going great all those wins soften the blow of being proved wrong.

But the least forgiveable offense, IMO, is shitting on a new recruit.  We know very little about these guys beyond a few recruiting reports and a highlight reel if we can find one, whereas the coaches have met their families, talked to their coaches, etc.  Certainly, coaches may err in their judgments on recruits, so the naysayers will occasionally be proven right.  But to me there is something extra skeevy about loudly writing off a 17-year-old kid, especially one who just signed the next four years of his life over to your program.  Maybe it's the former admissions officer in me.

aalguire

October 21st, 2012 at 11:32 AM ^

I want to be quoted in 4 years: Shane Morris? IMHO I don't know how he can ever top Denard. He threw an interception this week. How can he beat OSU, win a BCS bowl and beat MSU.

MichiganTeacher

October 21st, 2012 at 1:13 PM ^

I thought Hoke was a great hire. I wanted him more than Miles, by a lot (thought he was hungrier, younger, Miles was by now in maintenance mode and wouldn't be able to get back into building mode, etc.). I would have taken Harbaugh over Hoke but didn't really consider it because I was pretty sure Harbaugh wasn't coming.

HOWEVA, I also thought, at the time, that RR was a great hire.

cp4three2

October 21st, 2012 at 4:17 PM ^

But those fears still havent been allayed completely for me. Last year's schedule might have been the easiest in decades, he should get props for going to the Sugar Bowl, but he's been outcoached in about 80 percent of the games where we didnt have vastly superior talent. That includes games we won like ND, OSU, Va Tech, and yesterday. He's been a good hire, but I don't think anyone thought he'd be a disaster when they thought about it. I think we ended up with a version of Les Miles. He hires great coordinators, recruits well has games like yesterday and like Air Force. When he's at his best he'll be like last year's Nebraska game, when he's at his worst it'll be like Alabama and ND where it seems like we don't even have a plan. Hopefully, like Les, he has a year or two where everything goes our way. Hoke's greatest strengths are his likability and his ability to hire, which goes along with his likability.going to a BCS bowl doesnt make him great, Weis and Willingham did something similar. He needs to be consistently beating good teams.

snarling wolverine

October 21st, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we play something like eight or nine bowl teams last year?  Maybe we didn't play that many top 10 teams, but no one really does.

As for him being outcoached 80 percent of the time against good teams . . . I'd love to know what your criteria is for being "outcoached" there.  IMO, we had inferior overall talent to ND, VT and Ohio (when they had everyone back from suspension) last year, yet we managed to win.  How is that being outcoached?  

 

 

cp4three2

October 21st, 2012 at 6:01 PM ^

Lost to 1 by two tds, blew one out, and won one in an OT game that they dominated for the most part. We got bounces last year, where do you think the hoke poops gold stuff came from? OSU was 6-7 last year barely beating them because their frosh qb missed some wide open throws isn't something to write home about. They lost to PSU in the middle of its crisis and got blown out by Miami (ytm). this year it's a different story. i'm not saying he's not good or that I don't like him. I'm simply stating that he's not allayed all the fears expressed at his initial hire. Win the Big Ten in a year where we should, given OSUs ineligibility and the rest if the conference being way down, and it shows that last year wasn't Weis or Willngham-like. Keep developng guys, etc. I actually think he'll do both, but it still needs to happen for the people who worried about him at the beginning to be wrong.