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Interesting Poll from Orangebloods - Updated

Yesterday the Texas Rivals site, Orangebloods, posted an interesting poll.

They asked Texas fans if they would rather change the results of last Sunday's tournament game allowing them to play Duke this week in the sweet sixteen or have their pick of any single uncommited football prospect for the class of 2012?  

The results were two to one in favor of the recruit.  I realize Texas is more of a football school than a basketball school, but so is Michigan and I think the results would be different from our fans.  Which would you choose, a win over Duke or your favorite 2012 recruit?

Update - Here are the totals.  We do see things differently than Texas.

  win recruit
FeelinBlue   1
ken725   1
_Wolverine_   1
Mgoscottie 1  
MGoPHILLY 1  
Zone Left   1
jmblue 1  
Mich1993 1  
Drill 1  
AnthonyThomas 1  
aawolve   1
StephenRKass 1  
UncleLeo 1  
._. 1  
bluebyyou 1  
gametime20   1
GoPackGo 1  
WolvinLA2   1
TIMMMAAY   1
NateVolk 1  
DoctorBlue17 1  
JimLahey   1
BlueDragon 1  
BiaBiakabutuka21 1  
All Aboard   1
Blazefire 1  
M-Dog 1  
  17 10

I'm in the camp with those who think a win would mean a lot to the school and we may get my favorite recruit anyway.  As a follow up question, if you were to pick a player but you had to pick now, who would it be?

My pick is Zeke Pike.  The favorite for number one player this year (2012) is WR Dorial Green-Beckham.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:11 PM | boom (Score:1)
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Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:28 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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March 24th, 2011 at 7:55 PM |   (Score:1)
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But seriously what the hell is that post above.

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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March 24th, 2011 at 11:30 PM | Tim and Eric Awesome Show... (Score:1)
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...great job.  Hilarious skit.

Ay Spegett!

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | seriously? (Score:1)
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favorite 2012 recruit for sure.

you can always beat duke later but prospects like Clowney dont come around very often

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:40 PM | My thoughts exactly.  And if (Score:1)
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My thoughts exactly.  And if our players were allowed to play defense like Duke players without getting whistled for it, the outcome might have been different.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 24th, 2011 at 10:21 PM | you can always beat duke (Score:1)
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you can always beat duke later

Theoretically, yes.  But we've never beaten them in the NCAA Tournament.  The few times we've even beaten them in the regular season (like in 1997 and 2008) were huge, huge moments.  To take them down in the tourney would have been even bigger.

Now, try to remember whom our highest-rated recruit was in the last five years.  Justin Turner, maybe?  Was signing that kid really that big of a deal, as it turned out?

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:16 PM | RECRUIT (Score:1)
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Fo sho

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:19 PM | Duke win (Score:1)
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But only if it had been the exact same game with a game-winning 3 pointer at the end. 

My rationale is I can spend the next week laughing at the ESPN crew....

I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:20 PM | Beat Duke/ Sweet (Score:1)
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Beat Duke/ Sweet Sixteen...easy call.  at least for me.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:20 PM | To bring some microeconomics (Score:1)
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To bring some microeconomics into it, it's a gamble. We have a shot at the recruit whether we take the basketball game or not, but if we take the recruit, there's definitely not a chance we win the Duke game.

Which one maximizes utility?

Go Blue!

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:31 PM | For me, Michigan wasn't going (Score:1)
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For me, Michigan wasn't going to win a basketball title (or make the Final Four) either way. Maybe Clowney (my pick) is the next Lawrence Taylor from day one and gives Michigan a chance at something special in football over the next couple of seasons. The unknown is so much more exciting.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:01 PM | But wouldn't the basketball (Score:1)
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But wouldn't the basketball scenario be "the unknown" also?  I mean, if we were good enough to beat the #1 seed in our region, we should have theoretically had an easier time beating the next two opponents. 

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:41 PM | Not to nitpick, (completely (Score:1)
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Not to nitpick, (completely for nitpicking purposes) but Clowney was a 2011 recruit. Selecting a 2012 recruit makes things a little more interesting as you have to forecast the best prospect without the luxury of senior film.

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March 24th, 2011 at 11:48 PM | I know the name of (1) 2012 (Score:1)
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I know the name of (1) 2012 recruit: Ben Braden. I couldn't name a single 5* 2012 recruit.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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March 26th, 2011 at 12:39 AM | Stefon Diggs? Again, I was (Score:1)
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Stefon Diggs? Again, I was just being a(n unecessary) stickler for the hypothetical.  Needed to be a recruit for this year who was yet to commit.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:47 PM | Wouldn't it depend on the (Score:1)
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Wouldn't it depend on the slope of your indifference curve? 

A model of this would be very interesting to look at.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:30 PM | We need to get a budget line (Score:1)
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We need to get a budget line too, quick.

Go Blue!

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:07 PM | How would you get the (Score:1)
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How would you get the relative prices of the two?

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 25th, 2011 at 11:49 AM | Hence the problem with (Score:1)
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Hence the problem with indifference curve analysis, IMO. "Units of Happiness" never struck me as a particularly good measuring device.

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March 24th, 2011 at 11:36 PM | hmmm.. Utility (Score:1)
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While utility is merely a subjective measure of "happiness", I think beating Duke would most likely increase the net utility across all Michigan fans.  There is a law of dimishing returns as you move up the recruting ranks.  What is the difference between the no 1 and 15 pick?  Very little.  Therefore, your marginal rate of return would not be that much bigger than our highest ranked recruit.

Beat Duke, we talk about it for years.  Get Clowney, fingers crossed on what happens next.

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March 25th, 2011 at 1:02 AM | Ceteris Parabis (Score:1)
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Ceteris Parabis, the basketball win would most maximize utility. I mean, if everything else stayed the same, the top recruit (most likely a DB) would be situated between not good players. That isn't what I would call "satisfaction."

 

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:21 PM | You have to remember that (Score:1)
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You have to remember that Texas fans are just as aware as the rest of us that their team is coached by Rick Barnes, and that therefore there is no way in hell they were going to win the title, and probably not even beat Duke.

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March 24th, 2011 at 10:00 PM | I suspect that has a lot to do with it (Score:1)
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"So... either we can get started on bringing our program back from our mediocre-to-bad 2010 season, or, we can win one more bball game only to get our ass reamed by Duke. Duhh..."

Conversely, for M, one football recruit in next year's class isn't going to come close to fixing everything, but if we beat Duke, I think we had a good chance to make the four. 

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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March 24th, 2011 at 7:22 PM | Duke win. (Score:1)
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No brainer.  I'll take the Duke win. 

Football is more important than basketball, but you can't pass up a win over a #1 seed and Duke to boot in the tournament for possible wins later.

 

 

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:24 PM | Clearly the recruit. (Score:1)
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How else can you guarantee that you will get the player with the best name remaining?

 

But seriously, probably the Duke game.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:25 PM | A Duke win does exponetially (Score:1)
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A Duke win does exponentially more for the basketball program than any single recruit does for the football program. Easily, the Duke win would be my choice.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:31 PM | Duke Win (Score:1)
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Hoke is doing a fine job of recruiting. And Mattison is a great guarantee we'll get good recruits.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:32 PM | Duke win (Score:1)
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Easily the Duke win. Not only do I hate Duke, but it's a guaranteed win, spot in the Sweet 16 and an easier matchup to advance farther. On the other hand, the recuit, no matter who it is has no guarantee and it's basically a crap shoot if he performs, wins games, or even stays with the program. I'll take the sure win over Duke 10 times out of 10.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:32 PM | I'm not sure how anyone could (Score:1)
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I'm not sure how anyone could choose the recruit over beating Duke.

Sweet 16 with an extremely young team would help the program out so much.

Compared to getting a 5 star that we might have a chance with already, and for all we know that 5 star will be a bust.

So your options are high profile win and we're still reveling in the joys of March Madness or a possible contributer to 21 other starters.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:34 PM | Duike win brings a huge (Score:1)
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Duike win brings a huge amount of recognition to Michigan - helps with everyrthing Michigan.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:37 PM | Without a doubt recruit... (Score:1)
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Without a doubt recruit... he'd be contributing for 3-4 years with a chance to earn us a Big Ten/ National Championship. A win against Duke advances us just 1 game in a tournament we would be extremely unlikely to win.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:42 PM | unlikely to beat AZ? (Score:1)
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I'd think that'd be a very winnable game for this team...for that matter, UCONN or SDSU would have been as well out West...then another shot at OSU? Duke win, without a doubt...a win like that can spark something special...can everyone imagine what that would've done for the team's confidence going forward in the tourney?

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:55 PM | I see what you're trying to (Score:1)
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I see what you're trying to say but I think they're already feeling confident after their 30 point win over Tennessee and hanging with Duke until the very end. On the other hand a big time recruit can make you into a National Champion ala Cam Newton, Tim Tebow etc

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:55 PM | Ahem (Score:1)
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I hope "etc" doesn't just mean etcetera and is actually an acronym for "Denard in 2012" /knocks on wood

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March 24th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Cam Newton (Score:1)
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Cam Newton would have been quite a poor choice for that HS recruit.  I'll take the sure thing which may well help recruiting too, at least for BB.

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:43 PM | I'm an idiot... (Score:1)
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I will now go back to 6th grade and work on reading comprehension, Billy Madison-style...

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March 24th, 2011 at 7:46 PM | Yeah, the recruit.  If this (Score:1)
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Yeah, the recruit.  If this recruit is the next BG, Lamarr, Denard, Woodson, Wheatley, someone like that, he will bring us many days of joy.  The Duke win would give us one day of joy, with the chance of more joy, but the likelihood of another letdown in 1-2 games.  But if we get one major guy, let's just use Clowney as the example, he will greatly improve the chance of joy for 13-14 Saturdays a year over the course of 3 or maybe 4 years.  Plus, that improvement might pave the way for more Clowneys to sign on.

Plus, let's be honest, football trumps basketball any day of the week.  Well, except for those days when there are basketball games.

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:34 PM | Couldn't agree more (Score:1)
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And I was heavily invested in this years basketball team. Emotionally that is, I love them.

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March 24th, 2011 at 10:10 PM | disagree about the emotional attachment (Score:1)
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It's definitely more of an individual preference...I see how football is the bigger draw, but as a relatively recent student, if you wanted to, you were very close and involved with the team....you'd talk to them on and around campus, go to special practices/dinners with them, talk to them well before games etc... players and coaches would come to meetings and talk, and the athletic department did everything in their power to draw students...it was a very involving season and made one feel extremely close to the team...

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March 25th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | I'm not a student. (Score:1)
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I'm not a student.

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:11 PM | Recruits sometimes (Score:1)
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Recruits sometimes underwhelm. When that happens, a 5-star is still usually a good player but not worth a huge post season hoops win.  I'd need a morph uniform switch of a proven stud freshman who we'll  be thrilled to get just 3 years with before he goes pro, to give up the huge basketball win.

"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....."  1-11-11

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Sometimes recruits (Score:1)
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Sometimes recruits underwhelm.  But if you got to pick any player, and you picked the #1 guy on Rivals, you'd be almost guaranteed to get an All-American.  Look at who the previous #1s are, and tell me if there are any on there you wouldn't want.  Maybe Pryor, but still maybe not.  All of those guys had much bigger impacts on their teams than one second round tournament win.  Even TP - OSU doesn't win the Rose Bowl two years ago without Pryor.  I'd trade almost any tourney win for a Rose Bowl win. 

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March 26th, 2011 at 3:37 AM |  The #1 ranked recruit (Score:1)
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 The #1 ranked recruit usually goes to a team that is already good, any correlation with wins isn't necessarily because of that one player. These teams usually have solid backup plans as well.

"We alway's did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view"

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:19 PM | Duke Win (Score:1)
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I believe a trip to the Sweet 16 for the first time since the 90s would have meant more to our basketball program (including a major benefit to recruiting) than one individual recruit would mean to our football program.

 
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March 24th, 2011 at 8:19 PM | I would take Clowney, but (Score:1)
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I would take Clowney, but that's it. Besides him, it's a win over Duke every time. He's simply the best high school player I've ever seen and I will be shocked if he doesn't end up a top 5 NFL pick.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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March 24th, 2011 at 8:59 PM | Basketball win (Score:1)
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Even the best football player in the country is just one starter out of 22.  A win over Duke would have been a huge, statement moment.  I would have been more torn if it were a basketball recruit.  There, one guy can make or break your program.  Take Darius Morris off our team and we probably would have been worse than last year's 15-17 squad.

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:01 PM | Take Denard off the football (Score:1)
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Take Denard off the football team.  I'm just saying, one great player can make a pretty big difference.

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:15 PM | Even the greatest QB in the (Score:1)
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Even the greatest QB in the world can only do so much.  John Elway never had a winning record at Stanford.  Denard, for all his ability, couldn't prevent us from losing six games.  One guy can't turn around a football program.  In basketball you can sign Cazzie Russell and turn into a juggernaut.  In football you have to gradually assemble a roster.

And in this case, people are talking about Clowney, a defensive end.  He's not that important.  We had probably the best DE in the country in 2008 and '09, and still sucked.

To make this an equitable trade, you'd have to throw in about five football recruits.

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March 24th, 2011 at 9:02 PM | Wasn't the scenario in the (Score:1)
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Wasn't the scenario in the poll that Texas would get to play Duke in the Sweet Sixteen, not that they would necessarily beat Duke in the tournament? Texas would probably give Duke a decent game but beating Duke is never a sure thing.
But yeah, I probably would pick getting to play/beat Duke in the Sweet 16 too, because of the comparative publicity and exposure it would bring to the program.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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