did you see that guy that just left? Thatt was John U Bacon, and he gave me a siged copy of his book that hasn't come out yet. Do you want to come back to my place and read it while I rub your back? ....
Interesting Miles Excerpt from Three and Out
I did not get laid. But it was still the best drink I've ever bought.
If true, Brandon's "over my dead body" comment is interesting in light of his apparent meeting with Miles during the most recent coach search.
- Do we know any more about that meeting, such as why Brandon met with Miles and whether he offered him the job?
didn't particularly care for Rich Rod? But it was Lloyd who first reached out to him? Confusing.
This is all great, aside from the reiterated fact, in both coaching search portions of Three and Out, that Les Miles would never be offered the Michigan job.
Hell, I can go on record saying I would never say no to Michigan, but that doesn't mean I'd ever be head coach.
It will be interesting to see how Lloyd Carr comes out here. I've always had a lot of respect for him and given him a pass for his later years (if Martin had a succession plan ready in 2006, so much pain would have likely been avoided).
On one hand I can understand a burned out Carr wanting to retire. On the other hand I do feel as if Carr should have picked up Bo's mantel and installed himself in Athletic Department as kind of the spirit of the program. While many fans weren't thrilled with Carr, he commanded vast respect with the football alums and top boosters. He also was definitely a "Michigan Man". Things might have gone better if he'd kept the ancient clans united and focused (the young gen of course was all hot for RR, so that was cool) as opposed to leaving a power vaccum that civil war erupts in.
I'm pretty sure he did exactly that but to all of our detriment. He never supported RRod publicly and seemed pissed about anyone being HC unless it was Ron English or Debored.
Lloyd Carr is dead to me for what he did to the program the last 2 years and then during RRod.
What he did to the program in 2006? You mean coach them to an 11-2 record? Man, what a bummer of a job that was.
Nice cherry picking there....he also didn't recruit worth a damn those last 2 years and then laid a colossal egg in 2007 with a veteran team.
Throw in the horror of 2005 as the perfect bookend and it looks like 2006 is an aberration.
Now consider that he approved Boren goint to OSU, encouraged Mallett to transfer more than once (knowing it was likely his final year as HC) and all the other things that are coming out now - he doesn't look so great to me anymore.
When we needed him most - 2007 - he failed UofM. How can anyone argue that?
Carr's 2007 class consisted of (according to Rivals):
5 Stars: Ryan Mallet, Donovan Warren
4 Stars: Toney Clemons, Van Bergen, Martel Webb, Micheal Williams.
Woolfolk, Molk, Hyuge and Hemingway were also in this class.
Carr's 2006 class consisted of:
5 Stars: Brandon Graham, Stephen Schilling
4 Stars: Boren, Carlos Brown, Steve Brown, Jason Kates, Brandon Minor, Greg Mathews, Cobrani Mixon, Mouton and Adam Patterson.
Obviously, not all of these guys developed but that's a good amount of 5 and 4 star recruits in Carr's last 2 real classes.
2 four star and 2 five star players in an entire class that RichRod go to actually coach is not good. At all. And 2006 isn't good either. I don't know why you think that is good. I don't necessarily agree with milehighwolverine, but those two classes were piss poor.
Check out USC's or Texas' classes from those years. These numbers are embarrassing.
I'd still like to know why Lloyd left his probably best offensive game plan ever until his last game.
And the other thing this book is proving is how great mgoblog was during the coaching search. This book is just confirming all the great information Brian provided us with during that time.
I think that while Miles is completely insane, he's a better coach than RichRod.
But those who hate Miles may have caused the same turmoil and BS if he was hired. Who knows.
You're crazy. The only thing that cannot be triaged is losing. You take Les Miles circa December 2007, and what's the worst you can say about him? He, like so many SEC coaches, over-offered, per SEC standards that allowed it? He, according to no source that is willing to go on record, may have had relations with someone's wife on Michigan's staff when he was there? We're still digging out from the 2007 coaching change, and the 2008-09 seasons are worse than anything Les Miles could have done to Michigan.
It's funny how all the hate from UM fans of coaches that were at some point "Michigan Men" are the best ones - Les Miles, Jim Harbough. Maybe it's not the coach!
I also see that some people have a problem with the "type of kids" Rich Rod recruited. So players like Denard? Taylor Lewan? All our RBs? Gallon?
This has gotten ridiculous.
I read that article... Wow it just is a great piece of writing. I don't believe so much as in a TRUE MICHIGAN MAN, but I believe more into the fact of a TRUE MICHIGAN FAMILY! I see Coach Hoke, along with Denard, Martin, RVB, Molk, and Woolfolk as emerging as true Michigan people that will do anything for this great FAMILY. I believe Hoke as being the true Michigan Man to bring this program together and back but I think it more lies on the fact that WE gotta stay TOGETHER through tough times and emerge out as the MICHIGAN we all know.
Have Bacon's book sales passed the Steve Jobs biography on Amazon yet?
1.Miles > Rich Rod
2.Lloyd Carr's an idiot.
3.Les has some game.