Insider "Info" = Fail

Submitted by Ziff72 on
As we have run into injuries and subs have gotten pt people have been perplexed by some of the subs and it got me to thinking that over the spring and summer all we heard was about from the supposed insiders and the GBMW fluff was about these young studs coming on and I wonder does anyone know of what is going on or is it more a fact that the insiders overvalue athleticism and the coaches value experience and technique. Insider-Vlad will start this year, best safety prospect at Michigan since E. Shazor, he is neck and neck with Mike Williams for a starting job. Reality-Kovacks plays Emiliem is MIA Insider-Omameh is pushing for a starting job and Khoury is pushing Molk Reality-When injuries pop up they reshuffle thelines to keep all veterans on the field in Dorrestein and Ferrara and now probably move Moosman this week. Insider-Stokes is impressing and running with the 1's and Stonum is a disaster and pouting. Reality-Stokes is nowhere to be found even after Hemmingway's injury and Stonum looks great. Insider-Robinson has locked down the punt return position. Reality-Matthews returns punts and Robinson never sees field Odoms is the back up. I can go on about how Roh was too small and Herron locked the job down and Brandon Smith was a monster and Fitzgerald was pushing for time and Demens was tearing apart the weight room, but I guess my point is we either need new insiders cause ours ain't for shit or we need the insiders to let us know what the hell has happened in the last couple of weeks because something aint addin up Lucy. You have some splain to doo....

GRBluefan

September 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 PM ^

that the only way we would get real inside info is if RR, McGee or some of the other coaches were actually writing the articles, etc. Failing that, I think that everything from rivals / scout / blogger says should be taken as e-pinion, and nothing else. But in general...yeah, I really wonder how a lot of these e-pinions can be so far from the (evident) truth of the situation. Maybe we know now why the people writing the articles are not coaches.

West Texas Blue

September 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 PM ^

Well let's see; from what info I've come across on the internet over past few years: Maizeman, a long time supposed insider, is a janitor ErocWolverine, who runs GBMW and provides alot of the analysis, is a brick layer CoachBT, who provides alot of analysis for Scout and GBMW, is an actual high school football coach whose team is a consistently middling team IIRC, none have played at the collegiate level. So yeah, I don't know why so many people take their observations so seriously. They're pretty much like us. Some things they say could have been seen from a mile away (we all knew defensive recruiting has struggled last few years and 3 new D Coordinators in 3 years was going to really hurt our D). It's nice that they can watch practices and get some inside info, but their observations and analysis leave alot to be desired.

ish

September 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 PM ^

there are many things they got wrong...and many they got right too. last year they correctly predicted sheridan would start, this year they were right about hemingway's performance, minor's injury status, vincent smith's role, etc. just don't take what they say as gospel, and you'll find they sometimes have good information.

los barcos

September 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 PM ^

you have to remember that GBMW is taking their snippets of information from practice and those observations have to be tempered when the real game comes. we heard for years stevie brown was the real deal in practice but he couldnt seem to get it going in games (until this year) as far as vlad, GBMW (yes, i know...) said that he was battling an injury and that might have set him back. now if thats true, and hes only 75% healthy after coming off a devastating knee injury, we might be better suited to redshirt him, especially if the walk ons are playing "functional."

eroc

September 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 PM ^

So your taking stuff from what we said 6-12 months ago and then trying to say we were wrong? WOW ... okay ... I guess players never get better, get worse, gets injured, or change attitudes. Darryl Stonum had a bad attitude in the spring time and last year and most who went to spring ball saw it. Also you must not read much because we also said Stonum had really came on during fall practices. Vlad has had another injury or should say swelling of his injury and the coaches wanted him to get it better. They have to decide if they should red-shirt him or not now. Omameh and Khoury pushing kids in the spring and fall practice means what to you? To me it means they are on the two deep and pushing the starters and also creates more depth on the offensive line. Stokes we said the kid was doing well and ahead of Gallon and T-Robinson. In the summer when the players were working out they all take turns going up against each other. Do not recall saying he was running with the first team when fall practices were around? T-Robinson is a player we have been saying since the spring time that he would be a player to watch out for after the season to possible transfer. We still feel that way because of his hands and where he is on the depth chart and the fact we only use 1 "true" slot at a time on the field. Brandon Smith comments I guess you took from the spring when we saw him in practice. Well if you seen him playing safety he was a monster there. Not sure if you noticed, but the kid changed positions and sometimes it takes awhile for a kid to adapt to that position. Craig Roh in a normal year would probably red-shirt if we had depth. Like we said many times he would play this year. If he was at Ohio State he would probably red-shirt. In a few years when the depth issues are fixed a player like Roh coming in can learn the defense and hopefully not be counted on like he is this year. Demens "As you say tearing apart the weight room" ... okay ... how does that translate onto the field. Please explain? Many times we have said players are "work-out warriors", but need to show it on the field. Again so your taking information that we give in the off-season and try and spin it to make a point. Here are some tidbits I went back to look at in regards this situation. Went back as far as July. Sept, 5, 2009 Tidbits: "Hemingway has been the most consistent WR, he will start. Matthews will be at the other WR, but Stonum has come on the last two weeks" and also in that same article "Roh and Herron will split time, Roh has been more effective rushing the passer" and in the same article Odoms could be our ST specialist, he seems much quicker than one yr ago and is catching the ball, (at least in practice). Aug, 24, 2009 Tidbits: "Am not sure if Coach Rod was sending a message, but when he says you earn playing time daily, in this case it (the message) seemed to be directed mainly at the wide receiver group. Darryl Stonum, who basically stunk in the first week of practice but has shown great progress lately, was in the starting line-up next to Junior Hemingway. Greg Matthews was delegated initially to the third team. The wide receiver group continues to be the most competitive group in camp, mainly because no one has really separated himself, although J. Hemingway, as of now, looks to be at least one sure starter." The offensive line groups remain basically the same. First Group: Mark Ortmann, Steve Schilling, David Molk, David Moosman, Mark Huyge. Second Group: Perry Dorrestein, John Ferrara, Rocko Khoury, Elliott Mealer, Pat Omameh. Aug. 23, 2009 Tidbits: Vlad Emilien: Probably needs more physical maturity, but his "football smarts" and position of need puts him in the two deep. Craig Roh along with Vlad Emilien maybe one of those kid who just has "it". And his specialization at a skill that is so needed puts him in the two deep. Those who really have no business playing Je'Ron Stokes: Lack of depth and top production puts him in the top five or six. Aug. 21, 2009 Tidbits: Just in ... Stonum has had back to back decent practices including making a very tough catch over the middle while getting slammed by Michael Williams. Competition is a wonderful thing. Aug. 20, 2009 Tidbits: Remember when Roth played at Iowa? That is Craig Roh almost identical. The guy is relentless in rushing the quarterback, really quick off the line. Here is something to watch for. What do you do with Fitzgerald? He is behind Ezeh and Mouton (more on Mouton later), but Fitzgerald is really a good athlete and needs to play, but where? Barring injury, he could be behind these two for the next two years. Our thought is this: depending on what happens early in the season, if the goal is to get the best players on the field, then Fitzgerald has to play somewhere. Aug. 13, 2009 Tidbits: Most improved linebacker (Fitzgerald) his footwork (quickness has been obvious) the linebacker who needs additional work (Smith) seems awkward at times with his footwork. We do understand linebacker is new for him. Aug. 1, 2009 Tidbits: Herron has been one of the top performers in the off-season workouts, but he needs to take his superior athletic ability to the field. Nobody really knows how good Herron will be, but he will certainly be under a lot of pressure. Mike Williams: As much as we like Vlad, William’s ability to hold on to the strong safety spot will enable Vlad to develop as a situational player at the start of the season and not be thrown into an immediate starting role. July 31, 2009 Tidbits: T. Robinson: Yes, T. Robinson is only a red shirt freshman and has a long way to go at Michigan. But, this fall will be very important, even critical, for T. Robinson. Without early progress, it is possible T. Robinson gets passed up by all of the above and he may never recover. Sometimes it is a matter of just getting opportunity and T. Robinson had every opportunity to make a move this spring and did not. So clearly for young Mr. Robinson, fall practice is critical.

mooseman

September 22nd, 2009 at 3:53 PM ^

We said player A is better and will play over player B. Unless he doesn't. And then attitude, improvement, we don't know what we're talking about, insider b.s., hurt feelings, bricks, cleaning supplies, no sugar coat, shut up.

dex

September 22nd, 2009 at 3:48 PM ^

if you predict everything and nothing at the same time, you are right all of the time. sun may rise tomorrow. but you can never predict accurately. sun may explode. may just be workout warrior. if sun rise, sun work hard. if sun not rise, well, said it was possibility. just epinion.

chitownblue2

September 22nd, 2009 at 4:01 PM ^

I've never got the chance to say this to the source: GBMW not only good EBLOG, but also good place to learn of BRICKS. NO SUGARCOAT, just EPINION.

mooseman

September 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 PM ^

Where is the Truth? I'm still waiting for Sheridan to start. Does this tell us anything about the inside info on Justin Boren and the emotional abuse at the hands of Greg Frey?

MichiganStudent

September 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 PM ^

I guess it could be possible that some of the kids are good practice players and not as good game time players. That, and a lot of the younger guys were not always going up against the 1st team offense/defense and looked better because of it. At least thats what I noticed when I had the opportunity to attend a practice during the fall.