I've heard on these boards that Hand is also both a solid Michigan lock, and that there is no way in hell he comes here. Any clarification on that?
Initial Rivals 100 for 2014
Somewhere in the middle. No way he's a lock, but he has expressed interest. Don't get excited unless we can get him on campus.
I'm pretty sure he's planning on taking his official for the ND night game.
Don't open that box, don't open that box!!!
We are solidly in his top 5, but probably trailing VT and Bama.
Positive assertions are based on the fact that we're in his top 5.
Negative assertions are based on the fact that we're trailing VT and Bama.
So I'll let you decide which you wanna believe.
I am more optimistic about him than a lot of other top guys in recent years. Way more optimistic than I was for Derrick Green. Just the combination of good kid, engineering, loving the coaching staff, and wanting to go to an acedmic monster. Plus he's the #1 recruit in the nation and VT has no business getting one of those...
...considering the last 3 #1 prospects in the country have gone to Ole Miss, Missouri, South Carolina...
I'm not sure any of those schools had any business landing the top prospect in the country.
It wasn't optimism. His assertion was that VT doesn't have any business landing the #1 kid in the nation. Mine was that our perception of who belongs at the top doesn't matter. If anything, that's pessimism. Bro
What exactly did you crush...?
I think by crush he meant grind, and by it he meant his weed, because Mr. Rager sure has been smokin a lot of it.
Ole Miss also had 2 top recruiting coaches in Hugh Freeze and Chris Kiffin (Lane's brother) and they had some of Nkemdiches teammates and are getting his brother through Juco. Money wouldn't surprise me at all, but if it was shelled out it wasn't the only incentive.
DGB is from Missouri, Clowney is from South Carolina, and Hand is from...Virginia. Solid logic on why he would never wind up at Va. Tech.
I hope you're not a lawyer.
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. My client is totally innocent of murder because he totally shot that guy. I rest my case."
The coroner's analysis clearly showed that it was the blunt-force trauma to his head and NOT the gunshot wound to the chest that killed him.
Along with Bama, South Carolina, Florida, and Va Tech. To say that he is likely to come to Michigan is obviously a stretch, but to say there is a legitimate chance is not. He's the #1 recruit, so it could definitely be undecided until signing day.
How about "the kids who have shown the most interest in Michigan early on" instead of "kids most likely to end of at Michigan."
I hate wording that tempts fate.
Point taken, fixed.
I'm also not sure why you're comparing those 2-Taco's a WDE, McDowell's either a 5-tech or a 3-tech. Compare him to Poggi and tell me he doesn't look more dominant.
I heard he doesn't play against the best competition right now. I think it was Sam Webb, but he said he was surprised that he didn't transfer to a different school.
But a lot of what there is to like about his film doesn't require elite competition. His burst/pad level/athleticism are there regardless of who he's playing. He's also torn up several camps WITH the 'elite' guys, so I'm not too worried.
Any insight into how Alan Branches brother Desmond is developing? Or about any interest in a future offer? I remember hearing about him expecting to grow to be a much larger future recruit.
The only time I heard of him was when Tremendous ran their introductory piece on him. Nothing since.
They have a highlight video up on youtube from December- he doesn't really look too athletic for a dude that's supposedly 245. I wouldnt' really expect Michigan to offer, at least not based on what I've seen.
His parents won't even let him open his recruiting mail until the end of his junior year, so that may explain why no transfer has occurred. Of course, there's still time to transfer, but they seem to be the type of people who might not want to move their kid just to play football. It would be a little contradictory if they didn't let him open his mail but then they had him switch schools entirely just to get more exposure.
he plays D-7 football in Michigan and outweights his opponents by about 100 lbs. In fact, the 160lb linemen from Ispheming did a fantastic job against McDowell in the state title game.
I'm not even sure what you're talking about. At this point last year, Taco Charlton was a speed rusher who couldn't do anything against the run and wasn't even a full-time player for Pickerington Central on defense. If he didn't beat you with his speed rush, then he didn't beat you, period.
How could anyone be "way behind" where Taco was at that time? The only way that would be possible is if McDowell were tiny or slow, and he's neither.
I'm going to assume Alex Bars is the brother of Blake... Has he ever talked about the possibility of playing with his brother?
I can attest to the fact that there are a lot of bars in Nashville. I kill me.
yes and yes. he would love for him to come here and is trying to get him to
side note of how I know this: am friends with the family
They could be the coolest Michigan brothers since Rick and Scott Steiner!
I prefer the duo of Taco Charlton and Taco Pants.
Ummm they are cousins, nice try though.
Doesn't he have several brothers, at several differnt schools?
He has one other brother, Brad, who is a DE at Penn State.
I would assume any other brothers you're thinking of would be Poggi brothers. Or perhaps Kugler's brother, who's at Purdue.
Michigan is supposedly in the top 5 for Jabrill Peppers, and the top 10 for Quin Blanding and Andrew Brown. They are #2, 4, and 6 respectively.
5*s Adoree Jackson, Lorenzo Carter, and Elijah Hood have all received offers and showed interest towards Michigan recently, as well.
Not that I think we'll land any of them, but yeah.
Michigan is also high on the lists of Montae Nicholson and Drake Harris.
Is Urban Meyer gonna pull the scholarship offers from his commits that aren't in the early top 100? Stay tuned.
If things keep going his way, he may not have to worry about it much...
If things went the way they went in Florida he can keep pulling in top recruiting classes and leave in 4 years because the cupboard is bare... I mean heart issues.
Michigan is really the only school he has visitied. I know UM is high on his list and I think he wanted to see PSU. He just got an offer from FSU this month.
Montae Nicholson has been quiet recently. He did list us as his leader back in the summer, but that was before OSU offered.
I read a while back that Montae grew up a hugh ohio fan (same high school as dorian bell) and would likely commit there if they really go after them. I know they are in on some other safety prospects however.
12) Elijah Hood (RB/ATH)
41) Marshon Lattimore (WR/ATH) - Longshot
47) Montae Nicholson (S)
49) Tyler Luatua (TE)
70) Nyles Morgan (LB)
82) Joe Mixon (RB)
I have no clue why Michigan hasn't pursued Clifton Garrett. Maybe it's because Ferns is already committed and the two play positions that might overlap, but Garrett is in the Big Ten footprint, is huge, can run, and hits like a Mack truck. It can't be his talent that's keeping Michigan from offering, so there must be some other reason...
Also, both Cornwell and Caleb Henderson are on this top 100 list, but no Speight. I like the attitude of Speight, but I'm going to be very interested to see how these 2014 quarterbacks pan out. Michigan had a chance with both of the guys on the list, and they passed. I guess we'll find out in four or five years.
The only thing that worries me about Speight's lack of ranking visibility is it's impact on him as a recruiter. I think Morris doesn't get enough credit for helping recruit the 2013 class. Speight is in a similar position, but I kind of cringe when I imagine a potential recruit looking him up after getting a tweet from him and finding that he's a 3-star not even in the top 500 nationally (247), or not even rated (Rivals). Hopefully that will change soon.
One of the guys at Rivals (I forget who) said he thought Speight would start out as a high 3-star prospect.
Will this be the tipping point that calls the 3 star mafia out of hiding? I thought we wouldn't hear from them after the 2010 class.
He does seem unlikely at this point, but that really doesn't concern me that much. Speight is going to be a revalation this year and on the camp circuit. Plus he looks young. I feel like he may not be done growing. 6'7" QB, anyone?
FWIW, Speight is the same age as our 2013 class. He re-classified after hurting his collarbone during his junior season. So this year, he's technically a fifth-year senior.
I guess if you're expecting Morris to grow some more, you can expect the same from Speight? But I wouldn't.
I'm fine with a 6'7" quarterback as long as he's not as douchey as Mallett.
of that are very near to zero. I mean, unless he's secretly named Tyler Bray or something.
I suspect that may have had a little to do with the offer, actually. These coaches love to tear kids down and rebuild them. I think they probably favor tools and attitude over outright production. Obviously, the kid has to have the build and the tools, but if he needs a redshirt and some time learning the game to become what he can be, they'd rather have that as long as he's got the attitude and the commitment, rather than a kid who is absolutely ready to go, but also is a douche because he knows it.
I wonder why we didn't offer Cornwell first since he seems like the consensus top guy?
I guarantee the Michigan coaches evaluated Speight/Cornwell closer than the ratings sites. A lot of times, the 'well I just trust the coaches' argument is silly, because the guy we landed is just because we missed out on someone else. In this case, they had their pick of literally every QB in the country and chose Speight. So whatever the reason, I wouldn't worry about it.
Recruiting services don't take into account other factors.
Listen to Hoke's signing day interview with Sam Webb and his press conference. They also look at off field factors that the recruiting services might not value.
Speight might be just as talented and the coaches might even think he has more long-term upside, but a definite YES had to give him a huge benefit as the coaches even told the QBs of the criteria.
I don't think our coaches were willing to gamble on a QB that might flip to Bama or LSU or OU down the road.
The coaches gave him the nod and that's good enough for me.
Is Michigan still recruiting Parrker Westphal? I haven't seen him mentioned anywhere in a while whereas the names of other DBs keep coming up.
Greg Mattison visited him on 1/31. I would say that we are still recruiting him.
FWIW, on his 247sports profile, we are the only team listed as "warm."
You may not see his name as much because he's not as talented as Peppers, Nicholson, Adoree' Jackson, etc.
Im sure these rankings will change quite a bit once the camps get going.
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