the title of this thread was an oxymoron. I then read the content of your post, and was happy.
Important Rich Rod Updates
You mean like Swiss Cheese?
I don't get it.
He isn't at Michigan now. Coach Brady Hoke is. Let's talk about him.
I agree. We are over one year out, anything RichRod related doesn't belong here anymore
OT topics in off-season, and we hear about Woodson and Howard and other former players now in the NFL all the time, but without this backlash of hostility occasionally disguised as feigned disinterest.
RR is a part of the history of this school. Unfortunately, so is a concurrent history of covert factional hostility rising on occasion to the level of sabotage against our beloved program.
We won't rise above the dark side of this history by perpetuating the attitudes behind it, and we won't learn from it by trying to scrub our board of any reminder of it.
RR is a part of our history, as are Woodson or Howard. There are some folks here who pulled for him when he is here, and some who don't want him to be a forbidden topic in contrast to the other folks who have spent their time here and moved on.
Beating a path to put a beat-down on any board post about RR is just as much a form of obsession as posting about every U-AZ recruit is.
Important and Rich Rod used in the same sentence are a contradiction in terms.
What if he gets a commitment from Demar Dorsey and hires Troy Woolfolk as a grad assistant?
Then I greatly fear for all of the Arizona DB's ankles and tendons.
Lord knows AZ Desert Swarm could use the traffic (check out the comment numbers on the pages). I think there is some more high traffic site though if you really care that much.
Probably. To be fair I googled "Arizona Wildcats Football Blog" and copied the first link that appeared. That google search was also by far the most time I spent reading or typing about Arizona football outside of MGoBlog.
One of their game threads had 9 posts. Apparently no one gives a crap about AZ athletics.
My thoughts exactly.
Wait, you're saying that a Michigan football blog isn't the best place to get updates on Arizona football?
I don't get people's obsession with him. I'm a fan of the school, not the man; when a coach ceases to be our coach, he's just another guy I don't want to read about.
I won't post a thread on him, but I click on most. I graduated in 2009 and was very emotionally invested in Michigan's success, and therefore RichRod's success. I wanted him to succeed, but he didn't.
I dunno, I'd say it's kinda like an ex girlfriend. You're definitely broken up and not getting back together, but it's still a part of your history and you were emotionally invested. Whether or not you want updates on your ex... depends on how you feel about your ex.
You don't post trivial updates about your ex on your current girlfriend's wall, do you?
Would you post about girls you hit on and they turned you down?
This analogy sucks.
Maybe we should all just talk about how our ex-ex-girlfriend didn't give enough advice to our ex-girlfriend to really give us a chance at a successful relationship.
Yeah, you're right. This sucks.
than updates on RR.
Why do people hate the RR stuff so much? He is, and forever will be, a part of Michigan's grand history. Maybe not the best part, but a part of it none the less. People post shit about other past coaches and what they are currently doing all the time; no one seems to care. Just because RR did a crappy job at UM and was fired, we can't talk about his current going on's?
There is a huge difference between Lloyd Carr appearing at a charity event that people can attend and RR picking up a recruit that Michigan doesn't care about.
Well I actually agree with the point that him picking up a prospect we had no interest in isn't thread worthy (although in this case our rival MSU was actually persuing Griffey Jr, so it does become relevant). I was just using this topic as a time to address the bigger point. We don't only talk about Carr or other coaches when they attend charity events for UM. They're mentioned all the time everywhere and no one cares; it's encouraged actually. But RR can't do charity events for UM because he's not retired. But it inevitably seems that more than a few people will go out of their way to say how much they don't care whenever any update on RR is mentioned. Like even when it's a big thing like him getting Casteel. I just think if we're going to talk about past UM coaches, we should be able to talk about all of them.
Hearing charity work about Lloyd Carr or someone else is one thing.
Hearing about random 3 star commitments to Rich Rod is another thing entirely (the Griffey commit is not the first board post about 3 star commits to Rich Rod). Should we have 25 board posts a year about each individual commit RRod gets? Nothing against the guy, but holy shit, I just dont care.
If people are gonna post irrelevent threads about every generic 3star RRod signs I'm going to start posting irrelevent threads about the differences between the shape of my breakfasts when I eat them and when they end up in the toilet after my afternoon coffee.
The moderators were "hired" to moderate the Board. If a thread about something irrelevant exists for longer then you think should, lean back and take a deep breath. We all have day jobs.
That said, if you contribute to the deliquency you will be punished just as those are/will be that you complain about. #Forewarned.
about posts discussing MSU as we seem to get at least one of those a day.
Comparitively, we may see 2-3 RR posts per week. That's hardly some egregious overkill, as your rant would lead the lay person to believe. Don't want to read about RR? Don't click on the fucking link.
Just to echo, important RR updates are fine. I don't think anybody complained when it was posted that he got a job at Arizona. However, we aren't going to get an update on every QB recruit that goes to Auburn now that Loeffler is their OC, nor any updates on EMU recruiting (though they have a former coach and a former player on staff). This is hardly the first Arizona recruiting post, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Michigan outside of RR.
No we cant. He coaches at AZ not Michigan. If you want to read stuff about him and what is going on with his team, then please visit the site the OP mentioned. Im interested in Brady Hoke and his recruits, because umm well he coaches Michigan, and this is a Michigan blog. RR is not coaching here, he had his 3 years, he failed, time to move on. I hope he wins at AZ, but I could give a fuck less about who commits there and how his recruiting class is. I especially dont want to see it posted on a MICHIGAN blog.
I think you missed the point... the fact that a famous athlete's son did not sign up to play basketball for Beilein is an important, and related, topic.
Big Dog Jr
How did we miss out on Griffey Jr. Jr.?
complaining about Rich Rodriguez threads. I really appreciate the added clutter bitching about clutter.
Despite my phone's 4g speed I still find it hard to jump from webs to webs thus I enjoy reading all my rich rod news right here.
Also find rich posts far less annoying than the spartymania that goes on here of late.
The again let spartymania go on because my device has a novel feature where one isn't required to read threads one doesn't wish to read.
Here's to hoping to see AU liveblogs come next fall.
Fellow math nerds, unite!
I don't mind getting updates about assistant coaches he's hired or the process of him getting settled at Arizona, but board topics about random recruits he's pursuing are unnecessary. It dosn't need to be all-or-nothing.
I'm failry new, but I dont get it, can't you just not click on it if you don't like it. RichRod was a coach who came into M and brought the worst 3 year period in M history, but in many ways we were "all in" for his system and his players so why would we not care about what he's doing? I think it is very interesting to see what players (especially Griff's son) he pulls and how they may fit in his system since we just lived it. If he has success at zona, why didnt it work here? I don't see any reason this is not completely relevant to the board.
I think it is more indicative of being overly red assed and paranoid to not be able to look at the words RichRod on this board instead of just accepting that we've moved on and read about our EX-COACH one year removed.
If we start to obsess over his schemes or his stretching schedules, etc in Arizona, I get that, but he just got a high profile recruit so unbunch your panties fergodsakes.
Since you are new, you may not have realized yet that it's not very easy to get to page 2. Yes, it can be done, but I for one, and I'm sure many others, stick to the front page, for the most part. The reason it bothers me is a thread telling us about a 3 star recruit going to Arizona pushes another thread that I might be interested in off the front page.
Agreed (except of course about the worst 3 year period in our history). He is more relevant than 90% of the shut that gets put on the board in the offseason. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's fairly simple actually.
years is a bit much (although W-L statistically true) because without RR there would be no Denard and that makes me sad.
then don't read them.
Don't know why this is such a hard concept to understand. If the board had only Michigan related topics it would be one thing, but when there are threads on the colts, the bachelor, and Terrell Suggs, the bitching is hypocritical and pointless.
Whats more relevant, former coach or things going on with the colts? Can we get a complaint about the dozen non michigan sports related posts that go up daily, or do you prefer to be a hypocrite?
Rich Rod is more relevant than Yuri Wright, can we get more Yuri Wright posts?
coaches who coach at Michigan. Errr, unless another coach has something pertinent to say about Michigan.
And here I was about to post some news about Harvard's basketball program.
And that might actually be interesting, unless it involves Amaker signing a 3* recruit.
Former Michigan basketball head coaches are a combined 33-5 this year. That might be the best in D1.
I had cottage cheese and a granola bar for lunch.
As important Rich Rod news. Please, let it go. sd
The San Diego State Aztecs are going to be the bombay. And atleast Fisher won at Michigan even if most of the wins were vacated.
One of the best posts ever. You got me surprise young man.
Can you repost it every few days?
A Michigan-man will be blogged about by MgoBlog!! Not an Arizona man!
Huh...... kinda like this thread too?
At what point do posts/views for a "don't post about rich rod" post become testimony to his lingering relevance here in the mgoverse
I mean... the gang's all here, no?
You don't care.
Skip it if you don't like it.
Right now I see posts about Scot Loeffler (who was a career backup) and the Indianapolis Colts (who were never Michigan Wolverines). You can deal with a post about Rodriguez once in a while.
Calling Loeffler a career backup is a little disingenuous.
But if you look, those posts are still up while the RR one isn't. Agree or disagree but Brian made it board policy that RR posts aren't allowed unless it directly impacts Michigan
Can we stop talking about him as well? k thanks.
SC is going to own his arsh.
and I hope he does well - and I will read any post that piques my interest, do not limit my options simply because you are a hater.
Stop posting about fraudreguez he got fired get over it
Lol section 1 is going to kill you
Best thing Rosenberg ever did was get RR shitcanned
I'm not a Tigers fan, so I typically do not click on the Tigers links. Ignored.
I'm not a Lions fans, so I usually do not click those links either. Ignored.
I get my Colts news elsewhere not from here so those go ignored.
I have learned my lesson about twitter and the evil it can be, so I wait for my news like an old dude on the porch sippin lemonade. The twitter posts about what some recruit said in a cryptic fashion? Yeah, put them on the same ignore pile.
What do all these things have in common? Simple. I don't write a post telling people where they can post all of the above information. I just skip past it and don't read it. Does this mean that no one reads it? No. There are usually loads of replies to these topics. Some people like to read them, some don't. So telling people where they can post something that has some relevance to the University of Michigan sports world on a board littered with so many non University of Michigan sports topics - seems a tad absurd to me.
it woud mean the only place he was not successful was Michigan. The implications of that are significant. So, I'm interested in following how he does. Personally, I feel that his failure here was due to a number of factors, some of which he could not control.
at another school. This soon into the post RR era, it is interesting to some of us to see how and whether he rebounds, whether he repeats some of the same mistakes that he made at M (he got Casteel which is a huge improvement right there). I think also Three and Out increases the interest in Rich Rods journey.
While I dont really care about every recruit he gets, I am interested to see how his sales pitch goes over at a non-traditional football power, who he recruits to run his offense, and whether he can actually put out a team with a defensive clue.
Some of us probably want to see what is happening because we want to see him fail -- need to see him fail-- so that your hatred of him and how he took a team that just the year before lost to Appalachian State to a losing recod.
While some of us probably want to see what is happening because we want to see him succeed because think that he got a raw deal at Michigan and that if only we were allowed to play the game on offense and if only Lloyd Carr had carried down the tunnel on his shoulders while dragging Michael Rosenberg on a leash while kicking him, Rich Rod would have won 4 consecutive national championships in a three year period.
Most of us are somewhere in the middle of that, but it is still part of our recent history.
I agree with your post completely, and don't mean to nitpick, but RR isn't the only former M coach to go on to coach at another school. Now, probably nobody reading this can remember the last time (I'm guessing they would have had to be born into an M family no later than 1930), but it has happened.
Weiman became head coach at Princeton in 1939, and George Little became head coach at Wisconsin in 1925. Before Yost, there were others, but I don't think the fanbase cares much.