Impact Defensive Players 2010
I was just curious which players everyone out there thinks can helps us Immediately next year?
1. JT Tuner, question is at safty or corner. I know he has been practicing at corner but if warren stays and woolfook is on the other side how does he not play safty
2. William Campbell- He seen extensive playing time on Saturday and looked pretty good. He also enrolled early and has lost a ton of weight getting himself into shape, I think with 1 more year of conditioning, and the SAME d cordinator lol he can impact
3. Brandin Hawthorne- I know he was undersized but he enrolled early and played on special teams this year, he has speed that kills and a very high motor from what I seen on film. I guess my only problem with him is what position?
November 9th, 2009 at 3:56 PM ^
I would think more along the lines of guys that are playing right now. Martin and Van Bergen are the two I'd look at.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:59 PM ^
Hawthorne is from Pahokee. And you just don't fawk with the boys from the Muck...
But seriously, I love Odoms and Vince Smith and I hope Hawthorne can follow suit and impress us next year.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:04 PM ^
1. Roh
2. Campbell
3. Turner
4. Lalotta
5. M. Robinson @ safety
6. one of the incoming corners
7. wondering out loud if there is an impact middle linebacker?
8. Woofolk back at safety
November 9th, 2009 at 4:05 PM ^
I miss good linebackers :(
November 9th, 2009 at 4:13 PM ^
I thought that JB Fitzgerald looked great at times on Saturday. He seemed fast, and he was all over the field. Hopefully he's a guy that can get it together for 2010.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:30 PM ^
I don't know if this came across on the televised version, but Fitzgerald made some picture-perfect tackles and was nearly always in on the plays when he was in the game. I don't know at which position he will land, but he seems to have instinct, speed, and hits.
November 9th, 2009 at 6:28 PM ^
It was also refreshing to see opposing running backs being taken down by Fitz for a 1 or 2 yard gain instead of Ezeh grabbing ankles after a 6 or 7 yard gain. Hooray recognition! Hooray speed!
I know the LB play still was inconsistent and overall bad, but from the POV of an untrained eye in section 6, Fitzgerald seemed to be an upgrade over Ezeh as far as reading and reacting to the offense.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:06 PM ^
A name people continue to forget, Adrian Witty. If he's on the team in the spring, I think he's going to be a very good player before all is said and done.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:45 PM ^
Ik someone who went to school and was best friends with Denard at Deerfield. He has said that there were actually more D1 college programs coming to see Witty (before the senior season ending injury) rather than Denard. And he has also said that Witty is faster. I'm looking forward to Witty making a big impact next year for us.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:47 PM ^
I've said before that Witty might be a stud if he ever qualifies. He's fast, he can hit, and he's got some ball skills. Roh, Turner, and Witty were the top defensive players in the 2009 class, in my opinion.
November 9th, 2009 at 7:03 PM ^
Witty was on the 4x100 Deerfield Beach State championship relay with Denard last year, so he's got speed. But he is not faster than Denard. Witty ran the 2nd leg of the relay, Denard anchored that relay. The fastest guy is always the anchor.(I apologize for the swimming relay terminology; I'm not sure if it's the same for track)
Results from FHSAA track states last year at:
http://www.fhsaa.org/tr/2009/state/4_results.htm
November 9th, 2009 at 7:50 PM ^
As a former 4x1 runner myself the anchor is always your fastest runner while the 2nd leg is always the second fastest person. These are the straight-a-way postions where your fastest runners can really gain on everyone.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:57 PM ^
so it's possible that he could regain his speed. After all, his coaches said that Witty is faster than Denard before he got hurt which is frighteningly scary.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:09 PM ^
Isaiah Bell and Thomas Gordon mentioned by Coach in presser today.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:10 PM ^
Anyone know if a guy like commit Wilkins is capable of playing the middle LB? Seems to have the right size/speed for the defensive scheme. I have not watched any of his HS film to know if he is exclusively an outside player.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:40 PM ^
indicates he's much better playing in a box which isn't something MLBs should be doing. I'll be interested to see if they go with more of a traditional 4-3 next year considering Big Will should be ready for full time duty next year. I just can't see not having him and Martin in together with RVB and Roh at ends. Throw Lalota and whoever else returns into the mix with some recruits for brief blows.
The back seven could be really interesting if they land CC, Grimes, Knight and Witty to add to DW, JT, and MRob along with Gordon, Floyd, and Woolfolk in the secondary.
Adding Furman and Olaniyan would bolster LBs of JB, MJones, Hawthorne, Ezeh, Mouton plus add in BSmith and Isiah Bell to the mix. Put most into their second year in the same system and reaction time should increase dramatically hoping leading to more plays being made.
That would be a pretty fast but young D. Will and Martin to create havoc in the middle with Roh coming off the edge. Would love to be able to add Jeff Luc to the mix but not going to happen.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:52 PM ^
A young future, but a bright future. Let's hope Warren comes back, too.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:16 PM ^
people may kil me for this...
denard to corner, woolfolk to safety and then sometimes denard at gamebreaker position (a la charles woodson)
November 9th, 2009 at 4:23 PM ^
is you have a true freshman backing up Tate and no depth behind it whatsover. Denard will stay at QB next year and move to a different position in his jr year(probably at slot WR where you can best utilize his speed).
November 9th, 2009 at 4:45 PM ^
My guess is that a guy who played quarterback the previous year would not be a very good cornerback in Year 1.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:43 PM ^
Martin and Van Bergen on the dline.
Linebackers...?
Db's would be Warren, if he stays. Turner or Witty.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:52 PM ^
Guys like Bell, Hawthorne, Turner, Mike Jones, Teric Jones (at CB?) Thomas Gordon (and I'd really like to see Cameron Gordon move to LB).
And Oh YEah JB Fitzgerald and Kenny Demens. Now all these guys will have had at least two years of Choclolate Milk--it's time to see the Barwis Effect take, er, effect--and all will have had two years under Robinson.
I'm thinking the most help HAS to come on the defensive side (DUH!)--if it doesn't........Well, I shudder at that possibility
November 9th, 2009 at 6:46 PM ^
I think many people have forgotten that RVB was being hyped like crazy at DE going into this season. He was forced to move inside because of depth issues, but DE is his true position.
If Campbell mans up and locks down the Nose, allowing Martin to move over to the 3-tech DT (where he is better suited, IME), then RVB loses a bit of his DT bulk from this year, gets faster, and slides out to his true position.
Of course, this depends heavily on Campbell stepping up. If Campbell is who we think he can be next year, then RVB will be all conference at DE.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:14 PM ^
No one has mentioned Brandon Smith yet either. He could be a big factor since he'll play at one of two positions of need.
I think that if the linebackers and safeties soak up some coaching, we could be alright.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:23 PM ^
If he plays linebacker, he'll likely be behind two fifth-year seniors (Mouton and Ezeh). It's hard to make an impact from the bench.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:07 AM ^
about Mouton or Ezeh's play this year has inspired you to think they have starting spots locked down? Or are you saying Mounton and Ezeh will have a hard time making an impact from the bench?
November 10th, 2009 at 6:05 AM ^
The fact that they're starters and they'll be fifth-year seniors and nobody behind them seems to be that great, either.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:22 PM ^
campbell is probably going to start at nose, martin at dt, van bergen at de, roh at quick. on passing situations, i wouldnt be surprised to see ken wilkins coming in for van bergen. maybe lalota. how is he as a pass rusher?
at strong side linebacker, its either mike jones, brandin hawthorne, or marvin robinson. one of those newcomers will make an impact (positive, i hope).
inside backer, its probably going to again be a combination of ezeh, mouton, fitzgerald and leach. but maybe isiah bell gets some time in there!? hes put on a TON of weight!?
id be very surprised if turner isn't starting, at either cb or fs. warren and woolfolk get two of the other spots in the secondary. ss is the interesting battle. williams/kovacs obviously have the experience. vlad/gordon will push with a year of experience under their belt. if TONY JEFFERSON commits, i believe that he is the guy on day one.
...also, cullen christian could seriously push woolfolk for a starting position. if these last couple of months of recruiting go well, we could be looking at three new starters in the secondary...
NT: Campbell
DT: Martin
DE: Van Bergen/WILKINS/LALOTA
Q: Roh
M: Ezeh/Fitz
W: Mouton/Leach/BELL
S: JONES/HAWTHORNE/ROBINSON
$: JEFFERSON...Williams/Kovacs...EMILIEN/GORDON
F: TURNER
C: Warren
C: CHRISTIAN
November 10th, 2009 at 5:04 PM ^
Honestly, all this defense will need to be is mediocre and it could all be gravy. Experienced Spread n' Shred Offense + Mediocre Defense = 3-4 more wins easily.