I was recently at a large theme park and saw shirts from fans of Ohio State and Michigan State. I know rivalries are supposed to be "good natured," but I don't feel that way towards people wearing such shirts. In fact, I immediately feel what might be called extreme animosity towards them. This makes me a little worried about myself. So I guess I was wondering how others feel when they see shirts or bumper stickers or whatever from opposing schools. Do you feel a sort of jocular and good natured competetiveness, or just cold antipathy? I think if Michigan starts winning again regularly I will feel better again, so there's that I suppose.
I'm worried about myself because I'm not good natured towards rivals of UM
An Ohio license plate or osu something on a car my immediate reaction is to yell, 'fuck ohio!' in my car and by myself.
If you didn't feel something toward the rivals I would be concerned.
Since a large percentage of license plates at Michigan home games are ohio plates that isn't really fair. I am always part of a steady stream of UM covered vehicles in route up to AA every home weekend from the south. I would be willing to wager that 10-15% of those who care at all in Ohio favor Michigan over TUOOS. In northwest ohio, there are areas where it is majority Michigan faithful. Don't assume I am stupid because I found employment in ohio. :)
I think I ended up seeing a M sticker on a window as I got closer, and then apologized to myself for judging. After writing this down, I think I may have a problem...
If there are M stickers, I'm apologetic, if not, I'm vindicated
Of course you are free to assume that I am stupid for a host of other reasons...the list is long...just not this one.
I am from NW Ohio, and there are a decent amount of UM fans here.
And I also feel like yelling obscenities to fans of rivals, OSU fans especially.
Unquestioned proof that good people do, in fact, come from Ohio:
Is it just me, or do all people from Ohio drive like dickheads? I commute from GR to Lansing to work, and it never fails whenever there is a backup in the fast lane, it's some asshole from Ohio doing 60 in the fast lane. I'm originally from Benton Harbor, and we called people from Illinois FIP's, or Fucking Illinois People. Now I refer to anybody from Ohio as a FOP.
How bad is the commute from GR to Lansing? I have been considering employment elsewhere than my current job and have looked at one place in Lansing, but am not sure how bad the commute is. I have friends who live in Lansing and I've made the drive enough times, but never during a rush hour-type scenario and not much during the winter.
For me it's not too bad, but I think that's because I work 2nd shift and miss rush hour coming and going. I can't imagine it being as bad as 131 or 196 during rush hour, so if you can stomach that, you should be fine. I can usually knock it out in about 40-45minutes. When we lived in Lansing, my wife worked at St. Mary's, and it would take her roughly the same. I have not experienced the commute during winter however, and that bothers me a bit.
People in lansing can't drive. Period. The first rain or snow freaks the hell out of people,and in general, there is just a dearth of good drivers here. The idiotic way the roads are set up doesn't help either
And as a native Chicagoan, I resent your Illinois-people-can't-drive sentiment (on a personal level, not as a whole. there are lots of crappy Illinois drivers, I'm just not one of them)
I agree with your assessment that people in Lansing can't drive. They are turrible. I didn't mean to offend with FIP thing. That was not in a reference to driving. Years ago when Benton Harbor and St. Joe were much nicer, the moneyed people from Illinois would come over to the beaches or their vacation homes and acted liked they owned the place, and looked down their noses at the locals. We liked the "cool" people from Chicagoland, it was the racist snobs we didn't care for. That's who the name was meant for. I highly doubt anybody there now even knows what that means.
And racists snobs from anywhere suck
It may not be you, but people in Chicago can't drive.
I think if you're on the city surface streets, it's a crapshoot. there's too much going on, and yes many people can't drive.
The highways however I feel like good drivers make their mark. If you're ever passing through you'll notice that the right lane is the fastest lane. The reason being a majority of people have issues merging. I'd say that the biggest problem drivers have today is merging. I, a good and relatively aggressive driver, am good at merging, so I move to the right lane so I'll do my own merging and not get slowed down by people who cannot merge. That's what happens with most people, so the right lane ends up moving faster.
/i think i just set a record for the amount of times i used "merge" or "merging" in a 5 line paragraph
I think part of the problem with that is, everyone is ALWAYS merging...because the lanes are like 3 feet wide, so you're constantly in 2 or 3 lanes at a time.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Just about every state says that drivers from other states are the worst ever. Nothing will ever compare to places like New York or Philadelphia. I am flat out scared to drive in those places.
The new NY license plates are bright orange/yellow. My theory is they are trying to color-code New York and New Jersey drivers as a warning to the rest of the country.
The problem is out-of-staters don't understand that even though NY's speed limit is 55 lower than 75 is UNACCEPTABLE !!! in the left hand lane. Then we have to weave through traffic to avoid tourists. Yesterday I was behind an Illinois driver doing 60 in the LH lane on the LIE (Long Island's main highway) and I had to resist my natural instincts to honk + flip the bird because there were a bunch of kids in their car.
I've adopted the "thumbs up" and a ritard face to all idiotic drivers, personally I think it makes them feel dumber than if I merely flipped them off. Just my epinion.
D.C... Beltway... 'Nuff said.
It always seems like Ohio drivers cause traffic backups by going under the speed limit.
Maybe they are just naturally slow. See what I did there?
Wouldn't you go slow too? ;-)
Someone learn me something. Why do UM fans have such a hate for the state of Ohio since we've poached so many great players from there like Desmond and Woodson? After all, in the territory swap that gave Ohio Toledo back in the 1800's, we came out the better because. while they got that shithole, we got the U.P. God bless it.
Instead of hating Ohio in general, I focus my hate on the cesspool that is Columbus, but my personal peeve beyond all others, is Ohio State fans referring to their team as the "Bucks." You are not Bucks, you are Buckeyes. You are not a deer, you are a nut. Referring to your team as "Bucks" evidences either (a) laziness, or (b) your tacit admission that the name "Buckeyes" is pussyish, and needs to be masculinified into "Bucks."
But seriously, I really do want to decapitate any Buckeye fan who says "Bucks." I think I need therapy too.
And lots of it.
But honestly, how many hours of $100/hour psychotherapy can you afford as a cook at McDonalds?
It is the great OSU "Catch 22".
Really? Well then I guess I should be the subject of people's concern. I don't have any animosity toward our rivals, I just want to beat them. In fact, I get "concerned" when our fans needlessly bash theirs, and can't even imagine having an impulse to yell when I see their bumper stickers or license plates.
Now, have I been infuriated at times by our rivals fans? Absolutely, and have made many a derisive comment when warranted. But I honestly don't know why any person would actually feel an emotion upon seeing a license plate or a t-shirt.
I have a T-shirt that says how i feel about the state of Ohio. It reads, "Buck the F*ckeyes!"
It may be immature, but i love that shirt.
Edit: I realize some might not like this shirt, I hope you can appreciate my loyalty to U of M and dislike of Ohio State.
I know a girl thats related to somebody from OSU, so she commited to the dark side, I don't talk to her anymore because I'm afraid I will tell her something to piss her off. Which would be nice, I should consider that... But I have a friend that likes MSU, we don't really focus about college sports when we talk, because we know we will piss eachother off.
...why do you care if you piss her off?
I was taking part in a street act in Victoria, Canada where I had to share where I was from. After the show a man from the crowd said "Good to see another Michigan Man out here." I said "Go Blue!" and he says "Oh, sorry I'm a Spartan" and I said "I'm sorry" and walked away.
I have many friends who are Spartans. Hell, my boss is a Spartan, but if I don't know you I am damn sure going to give you some shit about being a rival.
It sucks. I can't wait till people can't talk to me anymore. They're like WE WON TWO YEARS IN A ROW. YOU SUCK AT HOOPS.
And my response is "just wait, october 9th."
Or... so how did recruiting go at the Jackson Prison this year?
Or October 9th.
Or "Yost West"
Or October 9th.
Or Brandon Graham vs. Glenn Winston
And hopefully on October 11th, I'll be wearing my jersey to work
That they too had a losing record last year. But most spartys retort with, "but we beat you." I usually laugh and thank them for caring so much about my school.
I...don't really have much of a reaction?
Two poodles with human faces tongue kissing?
Oh shit. You're right.
with large darrieres (and tails) making out.
What does it mean doc?
Edit: Apprently, it is a common vision. I'm sure the psychologist has fun with this one.
... it's an ink blot.
It looks like the little oval shaped face w/mustache guy on pringles cans, only a darker, scarier version with his eyebrows and mustache on steroids and blacked out eyes.
Woman with large breasts.
No, woman with medium breasts.
No, this one looks like you.... with breasts.
A MSU grad asked me out.
I said "No."
... I'd make a one-time exception and go on the frickin' date:
belong to my ex-gf. Seriously. I recognize those. And she did got to MSU.
When you see them, you don't go up and ask them if there's poop in their cooler or if there is/is not currently a riot in cedar village, then you're all set.
Then again, those things would be hilarious.
I am with you. I'm in my mid-40s and I still act like I'm 19 and back in Ann Arbor. I have an unhealthy hate for all things Michigan State.
- For the longest time, I wouldn't drive through Lansing. If I had to get to the west side of the state, I'd go out of my way to avoid EL
- When I was going in for surgery on my knee, the doctor administered the anasthesia and told me to take a few deep breaths and count backwards from 10. My count went like this...."10, 9, 8, State sucks" and I was out (that story was told to me by the surgeon himself).
- My gf/current wife went to State for a year before transferring to Michigan. When I visited her her freshman year, she was wearing a Spartan football shirt. I refused to leave the dorm room until she changed.
- I literally want to beat some sense into Spartans who go on and on about their team when historically, they've sucked balls. I mean, I really want to punch them in the face.
I don't play well with others (Spartans). Sorry. I admit it. I'm an asshole when it comes to them.
I would not be at all concerned with your choices.
Whenever I see someone wearing an MSU or OSU shirt or bumper sticker I usually just roll my eyes and grumble. I wonder if they do the same thing about Michigan shirts and other apparel.
You have no idea....I get so sick of hearing OH--IO when in UM attire. I usually offer a congratulations for spelling it correctly and thus passing the Ohio 9th grade proficiency test.
Most times people have said it to me, it comes out, "O-I-H-O" ...
I might get negged for this, but whenever I see someone with OSU gear, they might get a glare from in their direction, but I just can't stand to see Spartan gear. The OSU fans I've come across have a begrudging respect for us, and some of them have even come out and say that what RR is going through is BS, and some have even confided in me that they are leery about what RR has brewing over here. Spartan fans on the other hand have been increasing my blodd pressure since The Horror. My stepsons' dad, being the asshat he is, knows I'm a diehard Michigan fan, so he buys them App. State t-shirts after The Horror. Needless to say, while doing laundry one day, to qoute Yoda, those shirts "disappeared they have."
Send your wife's ex a friendly greeting card.
"Guess what. I just did your wife!"
I'm with you on that one. I'm a former band member, and one of the interesting "behind the scenes" things you get to experience is the opposing team running up the tunnel right before you run down it. Most of them are pretty much dicks and lay some taunts down at the band. This is fine, because it allows you to stew in hatred and pray that unholy pain rains down upon them in the form of Brandon Graham. MSU, as expected were uber dicks. This was good. Ohio State however, was easily the nicest team walking up that tunnel. They smiled, laughed, and worst of all, wished us good luck. It was one of the biggest letdowns ever.
Furthermore, while I do hate OSU a lot, not having daily contact with them sort of dulls out the anger between Novembers.
One of my best friends s an OSU fan, we met in high school and i had no idea he was a OSU fan and he didnt know i was a Michigan fan until it was too late we were already friends.
but we love just killing each other about it, making bets and stuff. but we always say if we had known our alliegence before we were friends, we would not be.
to OSU or MSU fans, cause when I go into Burger King I know that shift manager tag means I'm on their turf.
Despise OSU, feel sorry for MSU. I really can't stand people wearing OSU gear as I assume 90% never went to school there which irks me more. I have friends from MSU so I usually feel sorry for them because they have such an inferiority complex.
So going to said school is a preq. for wearing team gear now? I suppose I should burn mine then?
I guess I'll stop being a Michigan fan now so you won't have to cheer with some "non-student"
I don't hate MSU fans as much because I know a lot of MSU grads. Plus, they don't really have anything I'm envious of.
I do hate everything Ohio. I never take toll roads in Ohio and in Chicago I go an extra exit to Washington St. to bypass "Ohio St." I root for the other big ten schools but can't enjoy OSU losses enough.
I hate Notre Dame with a passion. I respectfully hate Ohio State and really just ignore MSU fans. I've learned to be respectful to people though and stab them in the back later... It's all part of being a passive-agressive prick.
I hate almost every school from the Big 10 for varying reasons. Of course OSU and MSU are at the top of the list, but I have problems dealing with people from all the schools. Just last week a Purdue grad was in my office for training and I had to share my computer with them for 3 days. Everytime I got on my computer there would be some website in the address bar history for the boilermakers. I had to erase my history everytime otherwise I couldn't pay attention to work. I have serious problems.
I also feel the need to say something. I usually do not, but I am fighting every urge. I am most annoyed when I see ugly people walking around in OSU/MSU gear. I feel like they do it so that other fans of their schools will talk to them and make them feel important. It is these people that annoy me most. A "Go fuck yourself" is what i am thinking inside.
I try to remain classy otherwise and just know that in my head I hate them so much.
Just yesterday, I saw a car with Michigan plates and Ohio State decals. I left the owner a nice little note on the car.
We Wolverines, we're classy people. We could've pulled a Buckeye and slashed the tires, but we don't.
shirt pretty much sums up my attitude towards Ohio and its residents.
Ohio stole Toledo from us and they'll never be forgiven. They're a bunch of city-stealin' good for nothings.
MSU and ND grads? most of them are OK, I kind of feel like they are not evil, just misguided. Very misguided. No reason to harbor ill-will. Pity perhaps.
If it'll make you feel better, I'll gladly give you Toledo if you'll give me the upper peninsula.
Cheer for your team! Cool.
School pride - no problem.
Attack my school - YOU have a problem.
I have no respect for someone wearing a "Muck Fishigan" shirt, or an "Ann Arbor is a whore" shirt. Even less for those that wear both on the same shirt (aka Illinois fans last year). I will call out a fan like that every time. It just flat pisses me off.
I am non-discriminatory on this subject. I have the same negative reactions to a Michigan fan wearing a similar taunting shirt. (Not going to call them out though.) I would like to think that we would have more dignity than that.
EDIT: Just thought about it a little more. I am willing to make an exception. Fuck Ohio State and the entire state of Ohio. Fuck them all. Where do I buy a shirt?
Is they're just crass. They show no creativity. Or intelligence. I mean, when OSU was in town, the guy two rows in front of me had their mascot being blown by a girl in Michigan gear. Wow, your mom must be so proud.
If I see something creative, or funny, I'll tip my hat or chuckle to it. But Switching the "F" and the first letter of a school name? Yeah, I'm sure you came up with that one. And I don't really like it any more on Michigan T-shirts. I think we're better than that. That's why the MGoStore line of CREATIVE digs are so cool.
(Note: the above described OSU shirt did serve one purpose...I took a pic of it on my phone, and showed it to the girl I know who sold her tickets to an Ohio State fan. Yup honey, this is what they think of you).
I completely agree--on just about everything. But, then again, I don't mind Nuck Duck Fotre Fame. It's like it is written in an ancient and since forgotten language, and I just have to find out what my ancestors were trying to communicate.
As long as it's creative. THAT'S creative.
Being disgusted at the sight of someone wearing OSU or MSU apparel is pretty normal. Actually doing something assholish (like cursing out a complete stranger in the street) in response to said clothing is another story.
and I was fortunate enough to witness a parking officer writing a ticket to place on a chevy blazer that was all green, with white trim, some form of MSU vanity plate, and oodles of Spartan stickers, decals and other kinds of paraphernalia stuck inside the windows, etc., etc. It was the vehicle of one very dedicated Spartan fan. It sort of irked me to see it actually, even though this was well before our current state of affairs and still in the era where we owned them outright, in fact I think it was in the spring following the Braylon-Fest overtime win, if I remember correctly.
At first I simply chuckled at their misfortune, but then decided to poke them with a stick, at least in the figurative sense. I looked at the ticket, written with a black ink pen and went in search of same. Returned to the car after finding the right pen and made a few edits to the ticket.
There was a checkbox were the 'meter expired' infraction was checked with a fine of about $35 listed as the penalty. At the bottom of the ticket in a blank area, I added a checkbox and checked it of course, labeling it 'blatant and public display of indecent college football materials' with the penalty column listing $200 as the penalty. In the other blank area at the bottom of the ticket, I added, 'Thanks for parking. Go Blue!' with a little smiley face.
It made my day to imagine how pissed of that would make them when they got back to their car.
It's absolutely pretentious (though I don't deliberately/consciously intend it to be, it still is), and I guess it doesn't make sense from some perspectives given the current state of the football program, but ...
When I see MSU or OSU fans, I grin. In my head, as an involuntary reflex, I'm lifting my nose. It's a little douchey. I can admit that. But seeing their fans unconditionally elicts in me feelings of "My University is elitely fantastic and fantastically elite, and, well, theirs? It is less so." And, really, I mean *really*, am I wrong?