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I'm sorry, but the Maize and Blue deli is simply not very good.

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I'm sorry, but the Maize and Blue deli is simply not very good.

So I decided to give the Maize and Blue deli another try today, thinking that maybe I just hadn't ordered the right thing every other time I've been there. Ordered the #23 "Italian Style" which should be a no brainer great sandwich, but it wasn't. After eating there 6 times now, I've come to the conclusion that it just simply isn't a very good sandwich place. Fairly confident that I could buy some pre-sliced Oscar Meyer lunchmeat from Kroger and make a better sandwich than this place. 

I find Zingerman's to be overpriced, but at least they know how to do Pastrami and Corned Beef correctly. I really have no idea why so many people defend Maize and Blue so vehemently. 

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:32 PM | Forget getting a sandwich, go (Score:3 Normal)
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Forget getting a sandwich, go to BTB.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:41 PM | I support this. Chicken (Score:2 Underrated)
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I support this. Chicken burrito with the green salsa.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | cheers to that (Score:1)
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May 12th, 2012 at 8:42 PM | I've eaten so many chicken (Score:2)
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I've eaten so many chicken chimichangas in my 4 years of college. So delicious

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:33 PM | You have to get a Jewish deli (Score:1 Normal)
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You have to get a Jewish deli meat pastrami or corned beef

Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:33 PM | Agree to disagree (Score:3 Normal)
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I will start by saying it's been probably 5 years since I've eaten there, but prior to then, I would take a sandwich there anyday.  Can't remember what I used to order, but it was outstanding.  I'm sure it was a type of ruben, or typical turkey type simple sandwich.  Zingerman's was always sort of ho-hum for me, as I think you pay for the "experiance."

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:34 PM | You're not sorry. (Score:2 Normal)
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You're not sorry.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Well, I'd like to give a (Score:5 Normal)
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Well, I'd like to give a local shop business, but it's pretty much the most overrated place ever.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:15 PM | I agree. it's way overhyped. (Score:1)
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I agree. it's way overhyped. if u want a great sandwich, it's hard to be Mike's Deli in Chelsea. it may not be as "cool" or pricey as the Ann Arbor joints but the sandwiches are delicious.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:18 PM | I would agree and add my rules about "great" local food places (Score:1)
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1) there is only a 1 in 10 chance that a "famous" local place is actually really, really good. The only example I can think of is the Pancake Pantry in Nashville (New Regal Ribs near Fremont, Ohio is another, but I don't think that really is "world famous" despite what they say)

2) If a local, famous place that is actually really really good actually exsists, it is probably only worth going about twice a year because the wait is always really long. 

3) Local places that are really really good only have about a %50 of becomming famous. Usually, if they are famous it's because they are either unique or because they have a schtik... like naming yourself Maize and Blue Deli. 

"It was open," Toussaint said. "I can't compare this hole to any other holes because I can't remember that but it was a huge hole."

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:23 PM | I only go to Blimpy Burger a (Score:5 Normal)
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I only go to Blimpy Burger a couple times a year, but that's a local place I'd put in the "really good" category. I agree though, most of these types of places are overrated.

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May 12th, 2012 at 8:12 PM | Yes! (Score:1)
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There is a limit to how good a sandwich can be; its all about ingredients. If you really want really good food, its so much cheaper to just learn how to cook--plus, you don't have worry about being dissapointed unless its a new dish or you are incompetent.

"It was open," Toussaint said. "I can't compare this hole to any other holes because I can't remember that but it was a huge hole."

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May 13th, 2012 at 7:10 AM | Your post gets exactly to the (Score:2)
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Your post gets exactly to the point of why Maize and Blue cannot touch Zingermans and why, to some extent, it is difficult to emulate certain cooking at home.

First, with any sandwich, it is about the bread.  If you don't have great rye bread, the contest is over before it begins.  Zingermans rye bread, in a nationwide review by foodie Saveur magazine, was rated the top rye bread in the US.  Try baking that at home.

Second, it is about the corned beef or whatever else you put on that.  I've made a lot of corned beef over the years, but with various outcomes.  Zingermans is always excellent.

I have always thought Zingermans was top notch, but after reading the reviews about Maize and Blue I tried them recently. It was a classic case of you get what you pay for.

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May 13th, 2012 at 12:30 AM | Blimpys is worse than Maize and Blue (Score:1)
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I could drop a tablespoon of warm vegetable oil on a Wendy's hamburger and blindfolded you would not be able to tell me which you were eating.

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May 13th, 2012 at 2:30 PM | Hot Doug's in Chicago. (Score:2)
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Hot Doug's in Chicago. Famous and great.....every time.

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May 13th, 2012 at 9:31 PM | Agree (Score:2)
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Pancake Pantry is the best breakfast place, hands down.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | #31 (Score:2)
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#31, you're welcome.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | Are you sorry because you own (Score:2)
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Are you sorry because you own the place?

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | If I owned the place, I'd (Score:4 Normal)
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If I owned the place, I'd probably want to keep dissent to a minimum....

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | Round 358 of the sandwich (Score:5 Normal)
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Round 358 of the sandwich wars...

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | False (Score:1 Normal)
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False

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | Maize and Blue (Score:5 Normal)
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Maize and Blue is all right. If you were to take out location, price, and just compare sandwiches, Zing's crushes it hands down every time. I know people get all crazy about this, but if the meat was so good at Maize and Blue than Zingermann's would carry it.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Oh man (Score:5 Normal)
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this.  Could never stand the Maize and Blue deli.  I couldn't stand Zingerman's either (or their roadhouse).  I actually felt bad when I took my parents there and they paid 50 bucks for 2 and a half overrated sandwhiches and pickles.

 

I am a firm believer in good ingredients, but I think these two shops are just thriving on the size of AA.  In a decent sized city where you can find delis, bakeries, butchers, and even cheese shops--it put's the AA deli's to shame.  Plus they are almost never as crowded as Zingerman's.

 

The one thing I miss most about Ann Arbor is the food, and I have never felt a longing for either of these two shops.

 

edit: Oh and I forgot, who the hell at Zingerman's decided sandwhiches were supposed to be that small?  It's one thing to be rediculously overpriced, it's another to be rediculously overpriced but sell small portions so you force me to go wait in your line from hell and get more food.

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May 12th, 2012 at 11:11 PM | How fat are you if a (Score:3 Normal)
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Zigermans sandwiches may not be huge, but I wouldn't call them small...

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May 13th, 2012 at 1:42 AM | The size of the sandwich is a (Score:2)
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The size of the sandwich is a bit on the small end at Zingerman's, and the prices are high enough that people are going feel the sandwiches are smaller.

 

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | I see this... Personally I (Score:2 Normal)
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I see this... Personally I think maize and blue deli is reasonably priced and gives a solidsandwich, however, it is not even close to the quality of zingermans regardless of price, and with all of the good restaurants in the ann arbor area, I will probably not go to the deli that many more times... 3 was enough to know what it is... good, but not fantastic or great

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | The thing is, Maize and Blue (Score:5 Normal)
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The thing is, Maize and Blue isn't even that cheap. It's still $10 for a sandwich.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:14 PM | Relative to the portion size (Score:5 Normal)
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Relative to the portion size and price of Zingerman's it's cheap.

I understand your issue with Maize and Blue, but I think you went over the top by comparing it to cheap lunch meat from the super market. I am a die hard Maize and Blue guy in the AA deli wars so take this for what you will, but this is my personal opinion of them.

1. It's perfect "college food" by that I mean large portion size, relative price and location make it preferable to Zingerman's to a student on a budget.

2. The food isn't the same quality as Zingerman's, but then again that's like comparing the food from a small time local steak house to something you'd get at a five star restaurant. I LOVE Maize and Blue's sandwiches.

3. It's awesome game day food. I can get a sandwich there around 1030ish before a noon game and be full until the game is over. My pregame ritual when I'm in Ann Arbor always involves going there first.

At the end of the day if you want something that's going to be equal  to the high end delis in New York City then you go to Zingerman's and you pay high end deli price. If you want a huge sandwich that tastes damned good without waiting in a long line and paying top dollar you go to Maize and Blue. Personally as a college student with a crappy part time job I fall in the second category.

Out of curiosity what sandwich do you order there? My personal favorite is #28 minus onion.

edit: By the way why are people negging aaamichfan's original post? Just because someone has different taste in sandwiches than you doesn't mean they deserve to be negged. It's not like he posted something neg worthy.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:17 PM | Agreed (Score:2)
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It's the offseason, and this thread is moderately entertaining. I consider that a success. 

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:47 PM | This (Score:-1 Trolling)
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"Fairly confident that I could buy some pre-sliced Oscar Meyer lunchmeat from Kroger and make a better sandwich than this place" ...is why I negged the post. Oh, and I negged you too. The "First rule of MGPoints..." and all. No hard feelings, eh?

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | Way off topic: Professor X's -9k points (Score:1)
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Just curious how he managed to get that negative.

Also after his second post his point total remained the same. Does it mean he no longer can move  his point toward positive territory, like sometime when Team 144 plays?

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:35 PM | Points just work differently in Bolivian. (Score:1)
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Every now and again the airline loads up and people return, so there is hope. If not, there is always Profitgoblue.

 

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | There was a place in (Score:2 Normal)
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There was a place in Farmington called Breadbasket that was awesome (size, quality of the corned beef & pastrami were old-school Zingerman's-esque).  Don't know if they are still open though.

 

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:16 PM | There's a Bread Basket just (Score:5 Normal)
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There's a Bread Basket just outside of Ann Arbor. Not the best I've ever had, but probably the best in the Ann Arbor area. 

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:41 PM | Deli power rankings (Score:2)
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Dimos > Maize & Blue > Zingermans > Ahmos > Breadbasket

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May 12th, 2012 at 8:16 PM | I've never actually eaten at (Score:2)
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I've never actually eaten at Dimo's(other than one random doughnut once), but the Corned Beef at Bread Basket is better than all on your list than Zingerman's. However, you get a bigger sandwich at BB. 

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May 12th, 2012 at 8:27 PM | One more comment (Score:1)
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I was going to say something about your corned beef obsession... but really, isn't that the best barometer of a deli/ Sandwhich shop's quality? Corned beef is one of those foods that doesn't seem like there is much of a range in quality.... untill you have really good corned beef, then it's like "woah".  This discussion reminds me of an argument I often have about beer-- to me, 70 per cent of beer is all roughly the same in quality. 20 percent is undrunkable, and 10 percent is really good. Beer is just beer unless its beer. 

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May 12th, 2012 at 8:32 PM | Agree. (Score:2)
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Generally if a deli has great corned beef, there's a good chance that every other item they sell is going to be top notch. In my opinion, it's one of those things where the only time it's great is when you get it from a place that makes it "in house".

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May 13th, 2012 at 10:46 AM | good idea, one problem (Score:1)
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bread basket doesn't make their corned beef in house. they get it from a place in detroit.

nevertheless, i ate at one of these in livonia for the first time the other day, and the corned beef was incredibly good. better than zingerman's (where the absurd price and hype turns me off) and maize 'n blue (where the size justifies the price but the quality just isn't there).

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May 13th, 2012 at 2:12 PM | I dunno... (Score:2)
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According to their website, they make it in house, every three hours. Apparently they use Sy Ginsberg, which is the same stuff Zingerman's and most of the good Jewish delis in the area use. 

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May 13th, 2012 at 10:00 PM | gotcha (Score:1)
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didn't know what you meant by making it in house, i guess. the waitress told me about getting sy ginsberg from detroit, and i was assuming that didn't count.

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May 12th, 2012 at 9:05 PM | If you want excellent corned (Score:1)
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If you want excellent corned beef, though there it's called smoke meat, go to Montreal and look up Moishe's. It is probably the best corned beef I've ever had.

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May 12th, 2012 at 10:41 PM | Corned beef or pastrami are (Score:2)
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Corned beef or pastrami are your barometesr of how 'good' a deli is.

If they f*ck up corned beef, you may as well just not bother going.

 

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May 13th, 2012 at 7:13 AM | undrunkable--adjective.  Beer (Score:2)
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undrunkable--adjective.  Beer that is so crappy you'll never drink enough to get drunk.

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May 12th, 2012 at 10:00 PM | +1 to you sir (Score:2)
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I spent a year in A2 and Dimi's was my sandwich joint of choice.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | The Zingerman's vs Maize n (Score:5 Normal)
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The Zingerman's vs Maize n Blue deli debate really needs to be a banned topic on here. Despite that, I can't help myself and will add my 2 cents anyways. This afternoon, without hesitation, I happily dropped about $30 on a sandwich, mac n cheese and a brownie at Zingerman's. I haved lived in A2 for 20+ years, have tried delis all over the country, and will always keep coming back to Zingerman's. I respect people's differing tastes in food and that not everything appeals to everyone. But I will continue to ignore the claims of overrated and overpriced because no food gives me more delicious satisfaction nor nostalgia than a #2 with an old pickle from Zingermans. That right there to me makes it the best deli in the world and worth whatever they want to charge.

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May 12th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | I dont' dislike it but I (Score:1)
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I dont' dislike it but I don't love it. I go there everyonce in a while because their sandwiches are decent, but definitely not great. The one thing I will say is that they definitely do give you enough food, which is nice since a lot of places don't.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | So we had a thread about Rich (Score:0 Flamebait)
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So we had a thread about Rich Rod and another on "Zingermans vs. Maize and Blue Deli" on the same day.

Can we never have debates about these topics again?

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:34 PM | So the real ? is (Score:5 Normal)
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what sandwich did RR prefer.

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May 12th, 2012 at 7:06 PM | NO RELIGION OR POLITICS (Score:5 Normal)
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NO RELIGION OR POLITICS

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