You should watch. We are going to win this game.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
You should watch. We are going to win this game.
But unfortunately that would make you a fair-weather fan.
So, if that's how you roll, so be it.
Please don't come back and write anything positive, unless you apologize first for your prior wavering loyalty.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
I've seen every game since 1969. I'm not breaking that streak now.
I thought I was the oldest fart here. I was wrong.
And a +1 to you, sir, too.
I was 9 yrs. old. My parents left me alone at home, and I just happened upon the game. When my dad got home I found out that he liked Michigan. We bought a newspaper the next day and held up the sports page to an Ohio car we saw on the highway. It turned out to be full of elderly women who had no idea what we were doing.
What has the team shown this year that makes you think we will win?
"If you don't believe you can win, there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day."
You get out of bed at the end of the day? Hmmm...weird. Don't most people get out of bed at the beginning of the day? Are you like the grandparents from Willy Wonka?
Everything. They have obviously shown you nothing. That is fine with me.
If it is everything then you must've been watching another team. I hope they win just as much as the next guy OR girl but you really didn't tell or show me how we may win.
They will win bc I love them and they're my team and they're gonna try really hard. Come on now. At least sack up and tell me how our pass rush is too much for them even if it's not. Give me somethin.
I'm going to watch the game and cheer for my team and hope for a miracle, because there is always hope. But to actually say that you expect them to win based on what they've shown us this year is meaningless hot air.
A voice of reason.
A Jericho reference? OK, you may have won me over with that one.
During the Battle of the Bulge, December 1944, the Germans offered terms of surrender to the encircled American forces in the Belgian town of Bastogne. General Anthony McAuliffe responded with "Nuts."
I.e. no surrender, assholes.
I approve of this sentiment, then and now.
You are correct, and also more highbrow than I. That story was also referenced in the TV show "Jericho." I connected it with the second-hand pop-culture reference, you went straight to the historical source. Good on ya.
You know, I actually enjoyed Jericho. It wasn't anything groundbreaking or amazing, but it was fun to watch.
Really? How the fuck does this, or the post above it, get negged? I assume that some dickwads are just negging everything I post on this thread, no matter what the substance? Pathetic.
[Point proven. Get a fucking life]
I was thinking General McAuliffe's response when the Germans had him surrounded at Bastogne and asked him to surrender.
I am trying to figure out who the Army Air Corps and Patton are in this analogy.
How about a little respect for his opinion and polite disagreement, Fuzzy? Why so rude? You've been watching The Wire too much, you little hopper...
This is a rough crowd. Rough crowd I tell ya.
put any money on Michigan winning, but I don't think it's out of the question. What have I seen this year?
1. I saw Michigan almost pull out a victory in Iowa City. Iowa took OSU to OT without Ricki Stanzi.
2. I saw OSU struggle against USC and Purdue.
Neither of those spells out a Michigan victory but it's enough to give me hope.
"What has the team shown this year that makes you think we will win?"
I just don't get this attitude. How many times has a team won a game that they had no business winning or that people thought they had no chance of winning before the game started? Heck, one of our own prospects (Conelius Jones) lead his team (which has been horrendous this year) to a playoff win over the #21 team in the country. They had shown nothing this year that would make anyone think they would win that game, but they did. Stories like that alone should give any real fan hope that their team can win each and every game they play.
But that's kind of exactly the point. Yes, tremendous upsets happen, so there's always a CHANCE that we can win. And that's what I'll be rooting for.
But it's something else entirely to say that you "expect" to win based on what the teams' respective performances this season.
"But it's something else entirely to say that you "expect" to win based on what the teams' respective performances this season."
Have you watched many Ohio State games this year, or just looked at the rankings and scores?
Thanks for posting another downer. JFC CHEER EVERY FUCKING WEEK!!!!!!
One year when I was young I headed to Columbus to see Michigan play Ohio State. Michigan was a good team, nothing great, they had 4 losses at the time. Ohio State on the other hand had then Heisman hopeful Eddie George, was unbeaten and ranked #2 in the country. What did we do? Went in to a hostile environment, shut down George (who won the Heisman) and came out with a win and huge upset.
I know we are not that team from 96' but nor is OSU, they have shown they can be beat. We have shown flashes if some pretty good football. All I ask of you fellow MEEECHEEEgan fans is keep the faith. Do not give up on this team, this coach, this rivalry or this game. WE CAN WIN THIS. It will not be easy, but we have done crazier things in the past. Upset is in the air in AA. GO BLUE!
ALL IN FOR MICHIGAN
Michigan had only 3 losses heading into the 1996 game and Eddie George was already in the NFL. Orlando Pace was OSU's Heisman hopeful in 1996. Of all the Michigan wins over Cooper (bless his soul), the '96 win was by far the most improbable. I expected UM to win in 1993 and 1995 when OSU came to AA with top-5 teams. The 1996 game felt like stealing.
of these types of posts. what type of responses could possibly come from them?
Probably some examples of upsets, followed by "upsets have happened in the past, therefore one will happen on Saturday.
We came into that game AT Ohio State big doggies. If you remember, two weeks before that, we lost the "Will Carr" game at Purdue. The following week, we didn't even show up for the game against PSU and that was Senior Day. Nobody thought we would take out Ohio State, even though they had the Rose Bowl locked up and a shot at the national title.
You feel so gloomy and depressed that you can't watch? Poor little guy. Season got you down? So you won't watch the most important game your team plays every year? You're an adult so do what you want, but I think that is a pile of crap. I hope the other 108,000 fans in the stadium don't have your same attitude.
I don't believe we'll win, in fact I think it will likely be a blowout, because of that I'm not excited like I might normally be for this game, but I'll be watching and hoping just the same. How can a passionate M fan not? See you around
By definition the 108,000 fans in the stadium don't have his attitude. If they did, you know, they wouldn't be in the stadium.
Honestly, if a guy doesn't want to watch the game on TV, I don't think it will hurt the team's morale. I don't think they're inspired by potential Nielsen ratings.
Too bad that the heartache is too much for you. Maybe you'll earn your fandom badge back sometime down the road. Happy trails.
Step 1) Listen to Ufer.
Step 2) Repeat as necessary.
You will find at this point your passion for MEEEEEEEECHIGAN football renewed.
going to try your prescription, Doc. I will let you know how it goes.
And the only perscription, is more Ufer.
(and a bit of cow-bell too for that matter)
These hype videos are trash compared to Ufer. If Ufer cannot get you fired up for any Michigan game, let alone the Mich/OSU game, then you aren't a fan.
Oh no no no no God no ... Jimmy Smith dropped the ball
I don't want to meet the person who doesn't get excited about Michigan football after watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZl35RAxerQ
Nice to meet you. I couldn't get past the first minute and a half. How is that supposed to hype me up?
Sometimes when you're on, you're really fucking on.
i swear to god i hadn't thought of sam mcguffie all season until the first 5 seconds of that video. that's epic. i'm so proud of myself i could burst.
Is he a 2010 recruit?
Not watching is not an option. When we do win (it has to happen eventually, right?) it will be that much better.
Watch with the sound turned off.
I think this is one big difference between fans and players. Players don't have a choice. They have to get up for this game. They love this game. They are this game.
Fans like you can turn it off. You can ignore the fact that it's even happening.
It's nothing against you, but these are the types of posts that make me appreciate players more. Because it's hard to get excited week after week, to feel confident and strong. It's hard to go out there every play with the intention of putting your face mask through another guy's spine.
But they do it again and again and again, and they will fuck. Shit. Up. Saturday.
...then we would not bother to play the game.
This is why they actually play the games instead of just analyzing the statistics and determining the winner based on the results on paper.
Do you think there is a single player on the Michigan team who thinks that they do not have a chance to win this game?
("so you're saying I have a chance!)
players > casual internet fan. okay!
If you don't watch and we pull off the upset you'll never forgive yourself for missing this. Prepare to have some sort of elaborate explanation/ excuse on hand or just man up and support your team!
I am excited about this game and yet very nervous about it at the same time. My kids have basketball games all morning so I will miss the game on TV. Frankly, I'm glad to be missing it. I can't wait to get home and have all of my nerves quickly erased (for the good or bad) with a one-second review of the scoreboard scrolling across the TV. If UM wins I'll find out when ESPN will be replaying the game. If UM loses I'll just go out to my garage, enjoy the 70 degree weather and drink my beer until I start feeling better.
My husband and I missed our 15 year old son's 320 foot homerun (the only of the fall ball season) because we were home watching the ND game.
Will not miss Saturday's game for anything.
What a dick move.
there's this new invention that's gonna blow the shit out of beta max... it's called a VCR, whatever the hell that means. it's going to be epic.
Would I get any points back if I told you said 15 year old plays a solid linebacker at one of the Powerhouse MN High schools (hint: brought James Laurinaitis and the Barber brothers to the football world). And, that I could possibly influence his decision to attend Michigan? Would I be back in your good graces again?
never post that again!
possibly a long lost relative of captain front butt??
I wish my eyes were on my back.
the words right out of my mouth.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
It HAS to be Photoshop, right? RIGHT? Please say it's Photoshop!!!
Am I the only one who's slightly aroused?
I wish I had two more hands...so I could give them...FOUR THUMBS DOWN!
Looks like Justen Boren is letting his hair grow out.
If you live life and never feel the worst let-downs because you turn away, did you live life? ;)
Maybe it's not that extreme, but just sayin'...
i'm taking a break, too. from self-serving whining.
I hope everyone who has tickets is still planning on going and that everyone who goes is really F-ing loud. What is there to lose?
So maybe you don't love Michigan football like you think you do. Maybe you love Michigan winning. Personally, I care more about the team through its struggles the past couple of seasons than I did in 1997. Everyone loved Michigan football then, so I didn't have to love it as much.
Like Magnus said, these types of posts really get on my nerves sometimes. Yeah, it really sucks to see the school you love lose at football. But it's only a game my friend. Life, for most of us, goes on after Michigan plays.
What's worse is that people think their feelings supersede those of the players. I get up for work everyday, drive downtown, and do my job, and though I'm not real happy about it, I consider myself lucky.
These kids dedicate their entire lives to football. They lift and run and do drills all year around to get ready to play, then work their asses off week after week only to be judged by idiotic journalists and ignorant fans. And yet people still say it's hard on them to watch a game that most of them haven't played since high school?
I might pound my head into the wall when Kovacs gets burned deep or Ezeh can't fill a gap, but I'm still going to cheer my ass off for this team on Saturday. It's the least we can all do.
hang in there and don't give up. as long as there is one kid on Michigan's team that exhibits the heart that brandon graham does i know i'll keep watching and cheering.
of heavy drinking on an empty stomach followed by a few bong hits Saturday morning won't cure.
Go Army! and Go Blue!
Fear and expectation of losing is taking it's toll. 3-9 last year, 5-6 this year, 0-6 in our last (real) games, 0-5 against OSU since '04. Definately dark clouds.
BUT.... if we win, if UM pulls this out, just think about how great it would be.
Hope. The promise of the future starting on Saturday. Believe my friend. Get excited!!!
I know people on the team. They hear the radio, read the newspaper and watch tv - they know what people say about them, their coaches and the program.
The sweat, bleed, cry and feel just like you and I, and I can assure you that they are just as emotionally drained as all of us.
Watch the game and cheer them on because they deserve it. They put in just as much work and practice as our 1997 national championship team did. It doesn't show up in the W-L column, but they are a good football team.
They deserve the support and vote of confidence. Don't give up on your program man...a true Michigan Man would never do that.
Support these guys. They will make us proud on Saturday. I know they have already made me proud.
Why would you even put this post up? You don't care? Then get off the message board.
You are such a Debbie Downer, wow!
The only possible reason I could see this post going up is for attention. Were you one of those kids that ran around everywhere yelling "look at me! look at me!"
This game is not about you and your depression. At this juncture this team needs its fans more than ever and you are just going to turn away? Stay positive. If you go to the game then scream, cheer, and yell until ever ounce of your voice is gone. If you are not going to the game then pump up your friends that are. Do what you need to do in order to support Michigan this week.
As Rich would say, "If you can't get fired up to practice and play this week, something is wrong with you."
You might as well quit being a fan.
It's harsh, but it's how I feel.
I understand your thinking. You are playing the odds. Avoidance of a disappointment, which happens to be the likely outcome. In a sense, Michigan is "your" team because you favor them and would like them to win.
But in your case, it has little more meaning than if I bet on the Number 3 horse in the Fifth Race at Belmont, I'd be a "fan" of that horse.
Here is what you will miss, by being that kind of fan. You will miss the possibility (and it is only a possibiilty, of course) that you might be at no less than the greatest game in Michigan history since 1969. Many of my fellow Michigan fans have suffered with me through the infamous tie game, the embarassing game in Columbus last year, and tough losses when both teams were undefeated, ranked in the top 10, and with a Rose Bowl berth on the line. Then again, I the 1976 game in Ohio Stadium, a 22-0 shellacking of the Buckeyes, when they began to talk about the need to 'fire Woody,' and the game when Thom Darden busted up a huge pass and Woody tore up the down marker. I saw Charles Woodson electrify the country in 1997. And I saw Woody's last game in Columbus, their dispiriting 14-3 loss to Michigan in 1978. (Woody, I am certain, was going to be history no matter what had happened in the Gator Bowl.)
You'll be safe if the Vegas guys are correct about the line in this year's game.
But if you've guessed wrong, and if Michigan upsets a Buckeye team that really thinks they cannot lose on Saturday, in their retro uniforms, then you will have missed the game of a lifetime. Literally, the game of a lifetime.
saying we are going to get our asses handed to us...but there is NO EFFING WAY I am missing a single minute of the game. *when* we win THE GAME (this year or the next) I will have earned the right to celebrate. Fair weather losers like you are a disgrace and are NOT welcome on the bandwagon once we have it rolling at high speed.
It's an emotional release. The man is overwhelmed. I've been there; I assume most of us who love M have been there recently.
But still, to the OP, I say: buck up man! We need you. You're right, the anti-RR masses are infuriating. But eff them! Stay with the rest of us, we'll pull you up when you need it!
M football will be back. These will be remembered as the times when the team fought and fought and never gave up, re-established the tradition through nothing other than will power, commitment and sweat!
Stay with them in these down times and they will reward you!
I get where the OP is coming from, and I would defend him against charges like "Fair Weather Fan." Clearly the OP has stuck through a lot and he doesn't appear to be ready to stop rooting for U-M anytime soon.
BUT while I understand what he's feeling, I think writing it out and posting it here goes against the grain. It's a board dedicated to M football. We're ALL wincing through the hard times. Why do we need to read an account (however poignant) about a fan who is throwing in the towel (even if just for an afternoon)?
I am sure he's not the only person who decided not to watch Saturday. But I don't wanna hear about that when I'm at MGoBlog.
So sorry, dude. Nice piece of writing but I'd rather have found it on livejournal, not where we all come to lick our wounds and support each other through the drought. If I can mix some metaphors.
or possibly airplane glue. They do wonders for a flagging psyche.
In my dreams last night, OSU beat Michigan 62-21. Naturally, since it happened in my dream, it certainly won't happen in reality.
Also: earlier this week I was wearing a Michigan sweatshirt, and somebody made a comment about it. My response was something I've said before: if you're not going to be a proud fan through the hard times, you shouldn't get to enjoy the good times. This has been a brutal couple of years for Michigan football fans, but I'll continue to watch the games, and I'll continue to wear the colors. Good times are coming again, and I want to be able to enjoy every last moment.
Reading this blog, especially on days like this, is hilarious. There would be no mgoblog without Michigan football, and it certainly wouldn't be this entertaining (e.g. back rack) if everything was smelling like roses.
Win or lose, there's a lot to love about Michigan football. There's the uni's and the helmets and the fight song and the stadium and GAME DAY and the drum line and the band and the players who we all feel we know personally now and Ann Arbor and Blimpyburgers and the great history that is Michigan football, and the promise of what Michigan football will look like once we get back on track.
Win or lose, GO BLUE!!
Not as entertaining if we were winning, but much less emo.
Instead, we'd have a story about how people won't stand up in the stadium.
If you lose, eh, you didn't expect to win.
If you win, you'll never forget it.
The one "risk" here is that we'll get blown out early. As bad as the last two years have been, we've been in every game at halftime.
vehemently disagree with you. If you went through last year and watched all the games this year should've been easy. I think all of us are disappointed so don't think you're special in that regard.
The only thing I thought of when I read your post was my father. He is as big of a Tigers fan as there is. My whole life he has watched every game that he could if he wasn't working. I, however, was not.
Before the last couple of seasons the Tigers were a laughing stock and my allegiance went to the RedSox bc of my love for Pedro when I was in 7th grade. This outraged my father but what was he going to do?
Anyway, a few years back I was home for the Summer and the Tigers were in last place and were unbearable to watch. I came home one evening and there was my father, watching the Tigers lose another. I was baffled and for some reason it angered me. So I asked him, "why after all of these years of watching a losing team do you continue to watch and support them"?
I will never forget his answer and it not only showed what kind of person he was but was a great life lesson for me. He said, "This is the team I grew up with. I first met your mother at a Tigers game. If you or your sister faced hard times and needed my help should I turn my back on you two? The ship will be righted one day and when it is I will look back at these times and smile knowing that I was there for good, bad and in between".
The same thing will happen for us and when those good times come the ones who stuck it out will appreciate it more than the ones that didn't. If this team has felt like family to you as it has to me then you owe it to them to watch and cheer. For all of you going I will see you at The Game. Listen to the Uf as I did and your tune will change.
"If you went through last year and watched all the games this year should've been easy. I think all of us are disappointed so don't think you're special in that regard."
I disagree. The losses this year have been harder. Everyone (or at least everyone who was realistic after the first two weeks) knew that last year's team was awful and didn't stand much of a chance in virtually every game. I still watched every game. If we lost it still bothered me, but by the end of the season it bothered me less and less. This year the losses have been a lot harder to take, especially the close ones (MSU, Iowa and Purdue). That's the pain that comes from losing games that you had every chance to win but lost because of essentially one play gone awry. I'm probably not explaining that very well, but it is what it is. I wasn't disappointed last year, but this year is definitely different. However, that still hasn't changed my level of optimism and whether I was going to watch any of the games. I've believed we could win every game this year and I still believe that about Saturday's game.
year was harder bc we didn't have a chance in most games and it was over before it began. It's a lot harder to watch an entire game when your team is down the entire time. We've been in most games this year so it has been more enjoyable. Exciting games going to the wire are better than ass whoopins.
I agree, but I was more so commenting on the frustration factor. It's more frustrating to me to lose a game that we should have won than to lose a game that we had no chance of winning.
I guess my frustration last yr was due in part to all of the hype and how all of my friends were talking about the spread n shred. I was expecting more last year and when it went south the way it did I was extremly disappointed. I was expecting it this year and have been pleasantly suprised with some games.
Yeah, as with most everything, perspective makes all the difference.
Mary Sue is gonna have one big-ass sour look on her face Saturday night as she faces the deluge of emails and voicemails from apoplectic M fans and wannabe boosters demanding an immediate housecleaning.
The "sky is falling" reaction is ridiculous. Yeah, it sucks to no end that Michigan is in a lifetime (for most of us) low but you are living in a fantasy land if you thought that it would never happen. Every program has experienced a lull at some point in the past 20 years. We've been spoiled by Michigan's success and what do you want to do after two down years? Give up on them?
Don't you even think that it is a tad bit ironic that you, a lifelong Michigan fan, are packing it in? This is the time when Michigan needs the support from it's die hard fans and you have decided that you aren't even going to bother watching the OSU game. Man...... if Sparty had fans like you, they would have folded the football program years ago.
I can't wait to go back to the Big House this Saturday! I love going to Ann Arbor every gameday when I have tickets to the games. And as a Michigan fan I can't wait to see my first Osu Michigan game! This is the greatest rivalry in the history of sports next to Yankees vs Red Sox! Legends were made in this game, heroes rose to immortal symbols in this game. This game defines the words hate respect and tradition.
It's the rivalry anything can happen! Osu can still lose man they still have to play us to win! And if our players buckle down, have fixed the errors and filled the gaps then damn it we can play with these bastards and beat them too bro! Have some faith dude your team needs you the most this Saturday! This team needs everyone's support! This game for all we know might turn out to be one the of the greatest college football games and one of the biggest upsets of the season. This game isn't just a game it's history. I can't wait to be there this Saturday! GO BLUE!
apologize to your pussy when you want to come crawling back and we dont take you back.
We may be outmanned...hell...we may be outgunned...SO WHAT! LETS GO GET'EM.
can all MGoBlog members get some free burgers?
If you can't get excited about this game there is something wrong with you!
True fans watch every game regardless of whether they expect to win or lose. They certainly do not skip their biggest rivalry.
We are probably going to lose on Saturday. I expect that my Saturday will consist of getting up, walking over to the stadium, yelling and getting pissed off for several hours, and then spending the rest of the day reflecting that I would rather have taken a Physics exam every day rather than have observed such a brutal loss to OSU. But I'm still going to go because being a fan means that you stick with your team even when all they do is crush your hopes and cause you pain.
My friend and I are driving 11 hours from Montreal to be at this game, and then driving 11 hours back. You BETTER get excited.
Most likely, we'll be tailgating at the golf course. Look for a dark blue Benz GLK truck with a Quebec licence plate, with Rush blasting through the speakers. That'll be us. We should have beer and other beverages.
I think Michigan can win. I think Michigan will not win.
This game kind of reminds me of the awful feeling of taking an exam that you know you aren't prepared for. You are not looking forward to it and you are expecting the worst.
I've read this very long post and thread, and my only reaction is that there are too many negative people who think the sky is falling around here. We can win this game. We might not, but we can, and we couldn't say that with a straight face last year. We're at home and the crowd will be fantastic. We've improved and we have something to play for. That's enough. Go Blue!
This post is so ridiculous. That's all I can really say.
I mean I knew there were people out there like this guy and those who agree with him, but what in God's name would possess him to post this here!?
"Um gee, I can't watch Michigan football anymore because we lose. But don't worry, if we win I'll watch it on Tivo and be as excited as the rest of you!"
Sorry pal it doesn't work that way. Like Brian said, loyalty to your team is a personal choice. You can be die-hard forever, or you can be fair-weather and it will taste a little less sweet for you the rest of your life. But hey, the only person who will ever really know what type of fan you are is you.
UNLESS, you post it on MGOBLOG and try to bring everyone else down to your level. Thanks!
protect the ball and make stops on defense. sounds simple..but it helps.
You deserve you be neg banged to infinity. Why would you even post this? If YOU aren't excited, keep it to yourself because the rest of us are!