Only because you asked about the spelling...
Only because you asked about the spelling...
I've got LeFevour, and the only prescription is more MAC quarterbacks!
I apologize for that one.
If Danny gets picked before Jimmy I won't stop laughing the rest of the draft. Maybe Mike Kafka will get picked before him too? Now I am just dreaming...
To Hell with Notre Dame!
his head this moment?
His agent had to have at least mentioned this scenario to him at least once. Once Buffalo passed up on him at 9, he was in trouble as far as a first rounder goes.
Yes, that includes Tebow being taken because some team was bound to buy into him. Not saying that's what WAS going to happen, but that Clausen and his agent were at least aware of the possibility.
everyone kept saying he was going at X in the first round after his junior day and was asking if he was going to NY for the draft. He hadn't decided at the time but he kept saying that he wasn't sure where he could be drafted, 1st 2nd or 3rd round.
I would think Not being in New York probably had them thinking a fall out of the 1st round was a possibility
Well he made the decision 5 months ago, and at the time I don't know anyone expected him to fall out of the first round. I thought he was just being modest at the time of the most recent interviews but looking back it doesn't look like that was correct.
"I wonder if they still make that shampoo I like"
I hate ND, but I like Clausen. I still think he'll be the best QB in this draft. He could even start next year with teams like Oakland picking early in the second round.
But I definitely respect him as a player. I was a big doubter of him when he came out of high school because of the low-level competition he faced, but he put up incredible numbers this past year. I think he is easily the best NFL QB in this draft. If the Broncos really needed a backup fullback, then I'm fine with their choice. Otherwise I think they are going to be kicking themselves down the road.
Bradford to me was no different than any of the other OU quarterbacks who put up gaudy numbers this decade (though he is a little bigger physically). He ripped up the Big 12 but couldn't do anything when he faced a defense with a pulse like Florida (much like Jason White against LSU and USC). Despite having a solid running game, his offense only scored 14 points in that game. Not the kind of performance that makes a guy the number 1 pick in the draft in my book.
after this year's ND game that as much as I didn't want to respect their passing game, it would be downright ignorant not to.
You could argue how much of that was reflective on Jimmah and how much was due to the antics of the receivers, but either way I came away reluctantly impressed.
And also giddy as hell after Forcier-to-Mathews :)
must feel good knowing that you won't worry about the same thing happening with any UM QBs anytime soon
True, ours have a long and bright future left at Michigan before they even need to worry about the draft.
I can't remember.
I love Clausen because it took an act of God (7 turnovers in '08 IIRC) to go 1-2 against Michigan during his career. He was one of the best QBs in the country last year, maybe THE best (let's give credit where it's due) and still wasn't enough to beat Michigan.
that call into question Irish's ability to be a "valuable contributor to the board" as so many suggest he already is. About once a week he makes a post like this that simply won't fly on an opposing team's board.
He IS a fan of the "other team." We have to expect a shot like that from time to time. I'm letting him have this ONE.
Do you really think a thread professing some ones excitement for a photo of a football player waking up after being knocked unconscious brings a lot to the table to begin with?
I agree - I don't like to see anyone hurt, particularly a shot to the head. Hate to say it, but from where I stand, Clausen seems to me to have the most upside of any QB in this year's draft. He had amazing accuracy last year and proved his toughness. He is a true pocket passer which is exactly what most NFL teams seem to want.
He somehow manages to do things that make him a target for abuse.
And.....this is why I like you Irish.
Don't be so MGoDramatic Irish. Although concussions are a real, and dangerous, part of football... this photo was taken BEFORE he continued his college career without missing a start, and BEFORE he will be drafted and making a career in the NFL.
An injury -yes. A life-altering injury-No.
Save your faux-angst for those reveling in career-ending and substantial injuries.
You're acting like his Mother.
And I wasn't professing excitement for his injury... I was professing excitement for a spoiled, pompous, savior of ND getting knocked on his ass and having reality set in (both on the football field and on draft day). That photo summarizes a lot more than "an injury". Ever hear of a picture says a thousand words?
So what was your intent when you started this thread then? Your celebrating his slide in the draft, and i don't really have any problem with that. But then you try to highlight your celebration with the CNNSI photo by stating its your 2nd favorite photo of him. Now that I am annoyed with and I will respond to it with the same tone that I perceive in your post.
you wrote that entire post with only one punctuation mark, and it actually appears to make sense.
What he said is no worse than this thread existing. If you don't want any kickback, don't revel in an opponent's tough day and laugh about a picture of his injury.
Besides, what he said is probably true for at least another 3 years.
YEAH! REAL valuable contributors are the ones that consistently observe that ND once had a coach that could stand to lose a little weight! true value!
teams noticed the golden boy's 1-2 record against Michigan or something
Pretty funny comment actually. I'm not Clausen fan, but some of the haters here are suffering MSU-esque inferiority complex. So what, Clausen wasn't drafted in the 1st round. Let's all diss him now.
Sounds like some one woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...
The fact that the first two QB's taken (and maybe the 3rd?) are spread QBs. (One mostly a runner). Or that ND now is running a spread offense too. So they could be waiting as long as Michigan, if that were the case.
Or that he's got about 12 picks to get drafted higher than Pat White....
Brian Kelly's ability to send QB's to the NFL???
Oh subway alum outrage, how I love thee.
what the hell happened to you?
what the hell happened to you?
Per Peter King's note that you have a reputation for being "petulant", may I remind you of the words of Dr. Henry Jones, Sr., (and they fit right in with that Catholic education you just cut short, but in case you missed a lecture or two from your Divinity classes): "Only the penitent man will pass ... Penitent ... Penitent."
In other words, Jimmah, the NFL and its system are bigger than you are. A bit of humility will help you immeasurably.
I've been on Mgoblog for about a year and a half. I don't pay much attention to other teams, unless they're playing Michigan, so the comings and goings of players like Clausen have passed me by. Why does everyone hate the guy so much? There is something about him that's irritating, and yes, he definitely looks like an emu (nice call whoever came up with that one), but there must be more to it than that. What gives?
I mean for Christ's sake, the guy committed to ND at the College Football HOF via Limousine. I could keep going but I just got up. So....
Limousine. That's all I needed to hear.
I love how you guys can't let that go. There is no forgive and forget with Clausen, there is no way he has matured from that, no way he has grown up from that day as a junior in high school.
But has he grown up at all? I can only speak for myself, and I know I'm biased, but I don't see a lot of evidence of a mature person.
I think Clausen is going to be a very solid pro and is by far the best quarterback in this draft. At the same time, his own fans couldn't refrain from punching him in the face. To act like he isn't at the skinny end of the douchebag bell-curve is to completely ignore reality.
you would be saying the same shit. Now, has Clausen matured since then? Yeah, I'm guessing he has, but when it's all said and done, we aren't just some team you play, we are rivals. So you should expect that some of it comes with the territory. I doubt anyone here truly "hates" Jimmy, but rather, hold a strong dislike for his sense of entitlement attitude.
I can't speak for the majority of ND fans, and they're pretty stupid a lot of the time, but Clausen's defining moment on this board is a year and half before he ever took his first snap under center.
Just deal with it and move on
directed toward Jimmy so much, then why the hell would you be on MGoBlog? You know what to expect when you're on here. Don't be so thin skinned.
I have never been one to sit back and watch
it's not like that will change perceptions. Oh well, we'll all have to agree to disagree.
do you also scan USC and Boston College message boards? I mean, they could be making fun of Clausen right now and no one is there to put them in their place! the humanity!
He went 1-2 against Michigan so, yeah...There's not really anything to "deal with"
For the proof that we have all so long looked for.
(Note: Funny sarcasm)
I take back most of the bad things I have ever though about Irish fans. Most - not all.
First off there is the hype factor. Clausen was anointed the number one QB prospect (and number one overall prospect) before his junior year of high school. This gave some observers pause since he played on an extremely talented team (they sent at least half a dozen kids to D-1 schools his senior year) and played incredibly weak competition in the lower divisions of California HS football (unlike guys like Palmer, Sanchez, Leinart, and even Barkley who played top competition). He was also a good year and a half older than most of the kids in his grade, making the "look how good he is as a sophomore" talk sound kind of ridiculous.
Then when it came time to go to college, he got an incredibly douchey Sonic the Hedgehog haircut, rented a limousine, and decided to make his announcement at the College Football Hall of Fame where he proceeded to predict 4 national championships (he would end his career with a losing record) and do a fey pose with his HS low-division championship rings.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things, but rest assured there are plenty of reasons people don't like the guy.
the international sign of retardation?
Don't insult poor, innocent retards by comparing them to Jimmah. They don't deserve that.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't care how much he has matured, when you pull a move like that you're bound to be the subject of fun for years to come. If he couldn't back it up - which he sure as hell didn't - don't show up like that. He brought that heat on himself.
I have to say that I am not so sure about his toughness. It seemed like he picked apart the U of M defense this year in the first half. But, as soon as Michigan hit him once in the second half he immediately got timid and started throwing off his back foot and getting rid of the ball to early. It may have conjured up bad memories of the drudging he took in 2007. (On second thought, the fact that he is actually alive after that is maybe a testament to his toughness.)
I like to think of Tate Forcier as a less talented, much gutsier Jimmah Clausen. I'll gladly take Forcier in that equation. By the way, how the hell did ND not win that game last year?
I've heard but not sure if it's true but has anyone ever heard of the Forcier-Clausen QB family rivalry? Supposedly the Forciers can't stand the Clausens. Discuss.
When he declared that he would play at Notre Dame... he arrived at The College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend in a limo. He got out, strutted to a podium, and declared to all his masses he was going to Notre Dame.
I have never seen a more pompous declaration before or since.
He got to have Erin Andrews stand around at his house all night last night. If he'd of been picked in the top ten, she would have been in and out of there in an hour. Since he didn't get picked, she was there for a good 4 hours, plus he gets the chance of her coming back today.
Erin is definitely a worthy consolation prize.
had you not said anything.
EDIT: In my defense, she is a star, is she not? :)
It's awesome watching him slide down the draft. His precious ego might have taken a hit.
It is a matter of perspective: Our quarterbacks have swagger. Theirs are egotistical.
A double standard seems to exist here.
AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT!!!
If they wanted a QB, Jimmah was the one they should have taken. TEBOW IS NOT A QB, AAAAAAAAARGH MY BRAIN HURTS.
This is the biggest slide since.... Brady Quinn. Wait, I think I see a trend here.
Another ND quarterback falling on draft day? I love it.
Gotta feel for the Jimmy:
I really think that Jimmy is the best quarterback this year.
Sure, Bradford is good, but do you REALLY want to roll the dice on a guy who had his shoulder rebuilt?
No thanks. I'll take the guy who made his team and seems to have a high tolerance for punishment. That is kind of an important trait for a team as bad as St Louis, seeing as how at 1-15 you can count on there being more problems on offense than just a quarterback, often of the blocking variety.
Not to imply any standing up for Kitna, because he was still not very good, but to his credit, he didn't usually have very long to get rid of the ball, either.
How about I answer your question with another question: Would you really want your defense to go up against a cyborg?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Name me one Super Bowl Champion NFL QB who uses hair gel? Can you? You can't. This trend would only have reared its head recently but come on, Eli, Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rapelisberger... those guys all enjoy either a good ol' fashioned side-part or some carefree mullet action. Dilfer didn't even have any hair.
Jimmy Claussen will never lead a team to the Super Bowl so long as he looks like that. How could you even respect him?!
has carefree hair!!!
my friends who went to ND. They said that Jimmy Clausen used to be an asshole when he first came in as a freshmen. They talked to him this year, expecting him not to change. They were pleasantly surprised that he has matured and was very nice to them. From what they told me, it sounds like he grew up as a person. Because of it, I don't hate him as much as I used to, but I don't like him just because he is a QB from ND.
With that being said, he'll be a good value at 2nd round and that's where I thought he would be drafted. He has good arm, solid accuracy and good mechanics. If he can learn on how to stand tall in pocket under pressure and throw accurately under pressure, he'd be a good QB.