For me 2006 OSU vs Michigan. Anytime I stumble upon anything relating to it I end up having to watch highlights to torture myself again. I remember every single event i did during that game. From the feeling that we were going to lose when I went down high st for halftime dinner. To the late hit Crable delivered and how even if it didnt happen it felt like the 2004 rosebowl where there was no stopping the QB only hope of messing up. Any how what event would you change in Michigan history and it has to be a single event. Be it something like a game you wish we won, or wishing drew henson did not leave to play baseball.
if you could change one Michigan event in the past what would it be?
2008 Frozen Four outcome versus the Irish. We were ranked #1 all year, my junior year, only to lose in gut-wrenching fashion. Hockey should've won at least 3 National Championships this past decade.
Honorable mention is 1973 versus Ohio State. We all know what did--or didn't--happen there. I'll ammend this to most of the early seventies against the Buckeyes.
Correct choice, and a pretty easy one for me. That was senior year, with two senior super-stars, the run-away Hobey winner, the debut of BORKBORKBORK. So many great games that year, CCHA titles, GLI, Showcase, everything was barreling head first down towards a national title and then it just died. Add to that the fact that, while watching the game, I already knew I was going to spend the next two years of my life studying for a Master's Degree at ND. Ugh.
illegal block call late in the game at Bo's last Rose Bowl against USC in 1990. I believe we faked a punt and got the ball down deep into USC territory but a phantom flag was thrown. No sign of an illegal block was ever seen on tape of that play. Bo deserved to win that game.
App State or Toledo maybe. Both were down right embarrassing...
I still think Florida would've won in 06 if we played them. I believe we were #2 going into that game though so OSU would've had a good chance of a rematch.
It's really late so I'm not exactly thinking but I'll take the easy route and say anytime we choked for a national championship...
We would have beat Florida in 06 no doubt in my mind. We were so stacked with talent and incredibly dominant all year. Ohio state played the game of there life and we just didn't care for USC after that. It was a heartbreaking season.
Vandy even agreed that we were the best team in the country not Florida.
which was played a full seven weeks later? I'll take that bet.
2006 game for me as well. I was the only one in an entire room of people going for michigan and we would've still been in it if it wasn't for that late hit
Also, from the same game, any of the two runs where the linebackers could not wrap up wells.... such a painful loss
...that the incident that led to his firing never happened.
For me it would definitely have to be the loss to App State. Although our team was not good, they still should not have lost this game. Immediately following, there was a crisis of confidence that permeated through the entire team. Everyone began to second guess what they were doing. A good football team is like the military. They rely on instinct and training. When all else is going crazy, the instinct and training take over. Unfortunately, this never happened in 08 and we suffered badly for it in many ways.
App State for sure, but Herbstreit opening his mouth about Les Miles comes in a close second.
Miles burned too many bridges during his time in Ann Arbor, and he was never a serious candidate.....not with Carr still on campus.
yuck.. The Les Miles fiasco might've been the biggest favor anyone's ever done for us. I'm pretty sure Miles is mentally handicapped.
App State was a symptom. Some of the OSU losses were expected.
Really, any Ohio State result from 2006 to 2009 would have been ideal. 2006 and we go to the Nat. Championship, and probably win. 2008 and RR's on the Bo path. 2009 and RR's vindicated a bit, we go to a bowl game, and this whole offseason goes much easier.
2007 though. Hart and Henne and Long and Arrington and Manningham and Lloyd....these men deserved to go out with a win against Ohio. It was a crime against humanity that they didn't.
Next would be 2006 -- but at least when we lost that game, we lost it with the kind of honor that people still thought we were the 2nd best team in the country. But more than that, it was for Bo.
Stewart. Knock it DOWN!!
...to take away Che Foster's fumble as were going in to score to make it 33-14 (or whatever) and put the game away.
The Fab Five getting a title or two (or four if they all stayed). Two heartbreaking trips to the finals and nothing to show for it. And yes, I don't care at all that their records "don't count."
Maybe the first one, against Duke...that would have been too perfect.
It was the first game i ever took my dad to. Needless to say it was a quite car ride home. A close second is 2006 OSU, at the time i lived with my best friend who happened to be an OSU fan. He bragged about that game for three damn weeks.
For me, it would be LC choosing to retire after the 2003 tOSU game. Maybe the team would have been inspired to beat USC in that Rose Bowl (catch the bomb, Braylon), and we just may have been spared the drama of the last few years.
Another would be to change the timing of Bo's death by about 15 weeks, either way. It must have had some detrimental effect on our team in a very big game.
If I had to choose an on-field event, I'd have Brad Cochran catch the interception that was basically thrown right to him in our 12-10 loss to Iowa in 1985 on their winning FG drive. That may have been enough to win the National Championship for Bo that year.
Change the timing of Bo's death? Fuck you.
Bo not dying...
I wasn't aware that Carr retired in 03...does he have a twin brother that filled in very quietly for the next 4 years? Floyd, perhaps?
the 2005 Rose Bowl vs. Texas...that damn last second field goal!!
Amen to that, brother. The losses in '70, '72, '74, and the tie in '73 meant that we stayed home for the holidays. No bowl games for teams that went 39-3-1 over those years. There's no way that Bo would have had to wait until 1980 for his first bowl victory if we had been allowed by the criminally-stupid Big Ten bigshots to go to bowl games other than the Rose Bowl. Those teams would have gone to Sugar Bowls or Cotton Bowls or Orange Bowls and we would have beaten the crap out of Alabama or Texas or Arkansas or whoever was playing in those games back then.
Seems like we have not rebounded from that game minus a few bright spots in the last 3 years.
Since all the other good ones are taken: Evan Bleeping Turner.
Improper time-keeping and tackling Desmond Howard in the end zone with the ball in the air heading towards him.
but it would have affected Michigan. How about the refs getting the call right in the Nebraska-Missouri game with the kicked ball in the end zone?
If Desmond gets that pass ... the roll of the season might have gone differently. Lots of talent on that team.
Or if the refs called interference like they should have.
on one particular night in 1997. The next morning was pretty uncomfortable and it is a memory that I could do without.
No late hit out of bounds, and we play for the 2006 NC.
Blocking Rod Garcia's FG in the 1972 Rose Bowl, then move to Stan Edwards catching Rick Leach's pass to tie or beat Washington in the 1978 Rose Bowl and Charles White's fumble in the 1979 Rose Bowl being called as such.
Was searching for video, but it was too painful to post. If he scores we're bowl eligible and most of the offseason conversations never happen. The team never seemed to fully recover from that game the rest of the season.
The Horror is #2, but I don't think that changes the future of Wolverine Football as much as Roundtree getting caught.
I've said this a thousand times before but one touchdown doesn't automatically correct a 25 point loss. Geez...
Zook had Juice's backup warming up. If we score the touchdown to go up by 13, and Zook puts in the backup, I think we stand a pretty good chance of winning the game.
It's still iffy. It would not have surprised me if the backup had the game of his life against our D last year.
I'd go with App State but that wouldn't have changed much in respect to the season as a whole. I have to go with the late hit in 06. We would have played Florida and I think we would have won. Which obviously gives us another NC and the Big Ten isn't a joke to SEC fans.
I tend to believe that the loss to App State had a huge impact on the rest of the season. Like a previous poster said, we seemed to lose complete confidence after that game, somewhat resulting in our loss to Oregon. We then suffered through an injury plagued regular season with Henne and Hart seemingly never 100%. When the two of them were finally full strength in the bowl game... well we know what happened.
Jim Tressel was never to be conceived.
I would have had Chris Webber tell Ed Martin in no uncertain terms that he wanted no part of his sleazy scheme, and then Steve Fisher tell Martin to stay the hell away from his players.
2007: Cortisone shot administered to Chad Henne fucks up his shoulder by hiting a vein (1 in 100 odds) making him sit against Wisky and still suffer lingering effects against Ohio State the next week.
I wish that Jim Herrmann was replaced before theturn of the century. We had several teams that weren't great but good enough. Jim's inability to evolve as a coach hampered us more than you know. We have spent too much time in a nickel trying to defend the spread, it just doesn't work without freaks for LBs. Unfortunately we haven't had any of those for a while!
Not to be that guy, but I don't really think I'd change anything. I enjoy the ups and downs as a fan....it keeps me on my toes as far as my allegiance is concerned and as Michigan fans we've been relatively spoiled for the last 50 years or so. Imagine if you were a State fan.
Two words: Ed Martin.
botching the Les Miles deal
really unsure why I'm sitting at -2 for this comment
Because Les Miles is a flat out awful coach.
It's starting to depress me
...if Ed Martin doesn't exist, then Rumeal, Higgins, Webber, and the entire post-Fab Five Fisher players never come here and who's to say how good we would've been in hoops? I also wonder how instrumental Martin was in getting the Grant/Joubert/Tarpley guys to come here.
Mike Lantry deserved to hit one of those game winners against Ohio State. I can deal with everything else, but that just seemed like one too many shitty situations for a guy who came home from Vietnam to kick for Michigan.
He made the '74 kick. The officials blew it.
I would prevent Jim Harbaugh from making his controversial remarks about Michigan. It tears me up that one of the greatest players in the history of the program is a bit of a dirty word around here, and I wish I could be a bigger fan of the job he's done at Stanford.
(Don't take this as "I wish we had Harbaugh instead of Rodriguez." This is purely about Harbaugh's legacy.)
I would also take away Mike Hart's "Little Brother" comment. It was classless then and it still is now--be gracious and humble in victory or defeat. To me, it's a black mark on a stellar career.
The rollover accident. Without it, there probably would never have been an investigation, Steve Fisher probably would still be coaching here, and we'd probably have won a whole lot more games over the past dozen years.
Or at least, I wish Goss would have hired Brian Dutcher instead of Ellerbe as our interim coach in 1997. Dutch had paid his dues, was well-known around the state, and was never found to have had ties to Ed Martin. Our program would not have collapsed the way it did had he been running the ship.
So the car doesn't roll over and Ed Martin keeps paying Michigan players for a few more years, we get nabbed later, probably get stiffer penalties...
If anything I wish that car had rolled over two or three years earlier.
You're making the very flawed assumption that the NCAA actually finds and punishes all instances of violations. Here's the truth: college basketball is unbelievably dirty (and college football is only a shade cleaner). If the NCAA had the stones to force every dirty champion to vacate its title, the record books would be practically empty - and this goes back to the days of Wooden.
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Tate doesn't throw an INT in overtime, we win. Bowl bound, teams confidence is up, who knows.
Also this one might not be significant but it still would have been nice had Deshawn Sims got the last second basket against MSU this year.
Michigan was on top of the College Football World at this point. Since then Michigan has fallen off quite a bit. I know we're on our way back but not having fallen in the first place would have been nice.
No one mentioned Charles White's phantom TD in the Rose Bowl. Immortalized for years in black and white photo, complete with a wire circle showing the ball on the ground before he got near the goal line, in a Crisler Arena showcase.
This was the play that tore up Wangler's knee and kept Wangler from starting the first few games in 1980. At the time we were up 9-0 and Wangler had over 200 yards passing in the first half. With backup BJ Dickey they wound up losing 17-15. The injury led Bo to start the ineffective Rich Hewlett for the first to games in 1980. We survived 17-10 against a terrible Northwestern team (admittedly in the rain), but Wangler took over against Notre Dame when we were down 14-0 in a game we eventually lost 29-27. They were down the next week and lost (barely) to South Carolina 17-14 in a game they could have won in about half a dozen different ways.
If Wangler isn't hurt on that play, not only do we probably win the game, but Wangler starts from the beginning of the 1980 season. I think this may have been enough to win the Notre Dame game for us, and with the momentum we could have won against South Carolina,
the moment Lloyd Carr decided his football philosophy would be to try not to lose games instead of win them, given the top talent he had.