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February 9th, 2014 at 5:46 PM
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If you are Brady Hoke

and you just endured two consecutives season which by many accounts had the worst offensive line in Division 1 football how do you justify keeping the offensive line coach?

We all agree that the offensive as a whole did not perform to expectations. Most of the blame for the failure is because of the offensive line. Hoke has used inexperience and injuries as reasons for poor line play. I suppose in part this is true yet many Division 1 schools have succeeded despite inexperience and injuries. 

Hoke decided to replace the Borges with Nussmier which in my opinion is an excellent move though somewhat puzzling since Hoke has stated that the problems with the offense was youth and injuries. If true, why was Borges let go and Funk retained? Even more curious is why tell the new OC he cannot have a say on staffing decision concerning the offense? If you are Nussmier and know you are inheriting a less than average offensive line and you cannot do anything about it would be like performing brain surgery wearing a catchers mitt.

By what logic does Hoke keep and protect Funk? I am not trying to get anyone fired here but I am flummoxed by the reasoning of letting Borges go and keeping Funk.

Thoughts?

 

 

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:48 PM
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Maybe Hoke took advice from

Maybe Hoke took advice from Joe Dumars?

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:48 PM
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I'm in basketball mode.

I'm in basketball mode. Offensive lines are for the birds.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:50 PM
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Dude....

Dude, it's February. This has been rehashed a million times both during and after the season. Football season is a long ways a way and things aren't going to change. The offensive line will be somewhere between awful and maybe not so terrible. Adapt and deal with it.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:30 PM
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We suck as fans.

We suck as fans.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:15 PM
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Sad, but that's true.

Sad, but that's true.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:45 PM
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What he said

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:52 PM
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About time someone addressed

About time someone addressed this I've been thinking the same thing because in my opinion you could justify the o line coach being let go and keeping the oc. I sure would like to know how nuss feels about funk still being on the staff as well. If last seasons o line problems aren't enough warrant a pink slip I just don't know what is.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:19 PM
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It's about time?

It's about time someone addressed the o-line coaching? 

Been avoiding Michigan fan sites since late September, I see.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:46 PM
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If your OC

constantly calls running plays into 8 and 9 man fronts leaving the Oline at a schematic disadvantage what is the Oline coach supposed to do?  While I"m not supporting Funk, I would find it hard to blame him when the D has more men in the box than the Oline can block.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:53 PM
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Holk did pretty well in '12

w/ that line.  Lost 5 games to 4 teams - Bama, ND, OSU and SC - two that played in the champtionship game and another 2 that finished in the top 8 of the final poll.  We lost to SC w/ something like 10 seconds left on the clock  Only other loss was to Nebraska when Denard went out.  If I'm Brady, 2013 by itself doesn't describe a trend.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:53 PM
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"Even more curious is why

"Even more curious is why tell the new OC he cannot have a say on staffing decision concerning the offense?" I hadn't heard or seen this. Where did you as I would like to read it. Truly asking not questioning you.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:02 PM
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If you believe Hoke, he indicated

that when he interviewed Nussmier that coaching decisions and changes were not for discussion. From that I deduced Nussmier had nothing to say about who his staff would be.

I brought the subject up because spring practice is in a few weeks and I thought that there would be a possible change regarding the OL coach. Since it is now getting closer to spring practice, I doubt any changes will be made and I was curious as to what some of you thought would be his reason/reasons for not making a change.

My God the evidence is in front of him screaming DO SOMETHING! He has not and apparently will not.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:48 PM
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Jeebus.

Calm down guy.



Maybe let Nussmeier work his magic, or not before the ALL CAPS needs to be broken out.

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February 9th, 2014 at 10:11 PM
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To be perfectly honest why fire Funk?

I get you see the results and say "THIS IS BAD!! FIRE EVERYONE!!"  and as a fan that's your right but for Hoke he has to not only look at results at why those results happened.  What your arguing is that Funk hasn't developed many OL.  That is the result of transfers and insane recruiting by RR (yes his actions do still have an effect on this program).  What your not seeing is that for the first 18 months of Hoke's tenure the only underclassmen at OL that Funk could develop that were still on the roster before the training camp of the 2012 season were Chris Bryant, Jack Miller and Graham Glasgow.  That's it, a guy who spends more time in the training room than on the practice field, an undersized former defensive tackle prospect that Hoke desperately grabbed in his first month on campus before signing day and a walk on.  Can't blame Funk for Bryant's injuries and unless Miller gains about 25 lbs and increases his wing span a couple inches, he won't be able to phsically hold up out there as we saw the first 4 games.  That leaves ONE guy that has an actual chance to see the field and Funk developed him into a pretty solid looking prospect and the only interior guy that started every game.  Thank God for Tresselgate or we wouldn't even have had him this year.  In my opinion it takes about 2 years to build a college lineman from a physical and most importantly a mental standpoint.   Freshman, either RS or  true, do not belong on the OL, it is the only position on the football field where talent cannot bail you out of a bad situation.  The problem with our OL is that they are young and they didn't fully understand what they were doing last year.  No amount of coaching change is going to fix that, that's why Funk is still on.  Personally, I think if we see a jump from Kalis and Manguson next and a solid contribution from Braden I think that we have a chance at decency next year.  And if those things happen it will show that Funk is a good coach put into a bad situation which is probably what happened here.  Borges was fired because while he did inherit some problems, he created alot problems he didn't need to with some bad decisions.  I don't see how you can lump Funk into the same category.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:53 PM
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Thought OL woes

mainly resulted from inexperience, youth, and constantly being put in a position to fail (e.g., lots of reshuffling/no time to gel, a variety of different blocking schemes, etc). If that is indeed the case...I presume a decent argument for maintaining Funk can be made. Moreover, iirc Funk is an inside zone guy, and of course that was a (the?) staple blocking scheme at Alabama.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:54 PM
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The good thing is

You don't have to worry about getting anyone fired. Rest assured Brady Hoke will not come on here, read this post, and based on your comments decide it's time to fire Funk.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:29 PM
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Why not?  I created a post on

Why not?  I created a post on here to fire Borges and he did it.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:50 PM
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Heh.

Can you do anything about thus Dave Brandon?

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:50 PM
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Heh.

Anything you can do about this Dave Brandon?

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:57 PM
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As long as Michigan's

As long as Michigan's offensive line gets out of the funk that was the past 2 years, the OLine coach should be safe.

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:58 PM
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Interesting

This hasn't been discussed yet.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:17 PM
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I'm not a big "How dare you

I'm not a big "How dare you raise this again?" guy, but if someone's going bring up a familiar topic, the least he could do is make it clear from the thread title.  I opened this up hoping to learn whether I am, in fact, Brady Hoke, and I'm no closer to knowing the answer to that question.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:44 PM
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Flow Chart

Are you Brady Hoke?

Have you pointed at anything today?

NO-You are not Brady Hoke

YES-But was it as magical as a Brady Hoke point?

NO-You are not Brady Hoke

YES-You are Brady Hoke 

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:02 PM
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Thank you, but I have a

Thank you, but I have a clarifying question.  

I got down to "But was it as magical as a Brady Hoke point?" and realized that if I am Brady Hoke, then all of my points are as magical as a Brady Hoke point.  Where does this leave me?

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:49 PM
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Litmus test

All it takes is one point. You can even try it right now. Go ahead, I'll wait.

 

 

 

Now, did that point harness the magic of a Hokepoint? If so, you are Brady Hoke. No non-Hoke has ever pointed like a Hoke, and no Hokepoint has ever been non-Hokian in its essence.

(Note: this test also works for smiling in case you were wondering whether or not you are Denard Robinson)

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:41 PM
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Was the composition of your morning deuce...

...mostly Au?



Yes: you are Brady Hoke in 2011

No: you are Brady Hoke in 2012 & 2013

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:48 PM
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Agreed, I like the Thread Title as is

If I am Brady Hoke...

...I'm pointing at stuff.

If I get around to it, I might +1 this thread.  The only thing holding me back are those hundreds of words the OP used.  TL;DR.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:13 PM
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Not sure this has been fully

Not sure this has been fully settled yet.  At one point Hoke was thought to poop gold and you ARE "Turd Ferguson" so perhaps you really are Hoke.

I'd keep checking if I was you.

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February 10th, 2014 at 5:39 AM
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Well, for a long while, and

Well, for a long while, and even today I still harbor some suspicion, I thought that Space Coyote was really Al Borges, so this is not beyond the realm of possiblity as far as I am concerned.  Agree with you about perhaps not being fully settled yet, but Funk may get another year in what is viewed as a 2-year project at a minimum with freshmen linemen.  And the point about Borges making the job of the linemen next to impossible at times is also salient.  Hoke won't tip his hand. 

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February 10th, 2014 at 9:28 AM
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Indeed. I have realized I am not Hoke.

On the plus side, I am younger and fitter than he. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 5:59 PM
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Maybe

Just maybe, Hoke actually sees Funk in practice and likes the job he is doing.  The perception that other schools around the country deal with this level of inexperience is just not true, it almost never happens. 

Also, as noted above, I don't know of anywhere that says Nuss had no choice in his position coaches and quite frankly even if this was true it would not be unusual. 

One thing many forget is that most of these great OL recruits we got also almost all came with the caveat they would need some time to develp into their potential.  Kalis being the only exception.  Look at the depth chart, this team is crazy young.  Also remember that Funk did help Develop Lewan and Schofield into great tackles, both of which will probably play on Sundays.  Maybe that was a factor in keeping him around.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:58 PM
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Funk is also said to have an

Funk is also said to have an excellent reputation among the coaching fraternity.  Sean Kugler, for one, wouldn't have sent his son to play for any old OL coach.

 

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:00 PM
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I know if i were Brady Hoke,

I know if i were Brady Hoke, I'd make sure I wouldn't read any of threads or comments on Mgoblog.com.  

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:02 PM
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Because. You've. Got. To.

......accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene

 

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:04 PM
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^^^ Intramural Soccer Game ??? ^^^

放屁

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February 10th, 2014 at 1:56 AM
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Nice quote, Mark

I was just listening to this song from one of the semi-frequent Dr John shows that turn up on dime and etree.  He almost makes one forget that it was written in 1944.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:02 PM
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My thoughts

Personally, I do not understand why you end posts with "Thoughts". Obviously when you post a thread, you're doing so to illicit responses. Posting "Thoughts" at the end is just redundant in my opinion

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:19 PM
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Given that, it seems like a

Given that, it seems like a curious decision to make the subject of your post "My thoughts."  Wasn't it pretty obvious that your post would contain your thoughts?

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I'm sorry, but you are forgetting

the economic ramifications. Illicit responses help keep the Mods employed.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:33 PM
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Like Randy Moss...

Straight cash, homie.

Keep illiciting those responses, I'm riding around in last year's F12 like a chump.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:21 PM
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Don't forget the subject "my thoughts" as well.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:41 PM
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Elicit. Some will, no doubt,

Elicit. Some will, no doubt, be impolite. Some will get negged, perhaps even get the poster banned. But I'm not sure any could be truly illicit, not without coming here toking on a bong with it's wanger swinging free. Which is hard for a response to do.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:03 PM
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I'm sure Nussmeier and Hoke

I'm sure Nussmeier and Hoke have discussed the O-line and one thing I think that hurt Borges was that his play selection seemed to lack consistency

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:05 PM
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I'd be all

I still can't believe they gave me this job.



Da dum dum

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:06 PM
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If I were Brady Hoke

I would trademark the term "Hokemania" and parlay it into a vitamin empire and wrestling/MMA guest appearances. Then I would donate all of the proceeds to CS Mott Children's Hospital. Finally, I would put on sleeves just to see what it looked like. Then I would realize my pythons can't be caged, and Hokemania would run wild and rip the sleeves off. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:07 PM
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leadership 101

He has to let Nuss make that call so that Nuss can be fully accountable for the offense. Nuss has to decide who his OL coach is going to be for the entire offense is successful. There is little doubt that Nuss has full authority over any of his offensive coaching changes and that Hoke would not likely overide them. That kind of management mistake would be akin to a head coach hiring a DC and then dictating what kind of defense to run when that DC believes in a different scheme.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:45 PM
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This is to say Hoke gets to

This is to say Hoke gets to make two hires on his staff, OC and DC? I don't think it works that way anywhere, in football or out. 

In your example, if the HC and the DC don't agree on schemes and staff, the hire does not get made. This is how it works.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:08 PM
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It's believed that what Nuss and Funk are more in

It's believed that what Nuss and Funk are more in synce with each other from a blocking scheme/play calling standpoint.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:10 PM
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Offense Was Incoherent

Perhaps Brady Hoke recognized that Funk was put in the nearly impossible position of teaching very young offensive lineman multiple offensive concepts instead of one base set of plays. Last year the majority of Auburn's offense was 4 plays from the same formation. Their O lineman only had to learn to do 4 things well and they improved all season. UM changed offensive styles and formations frequently and the offense didn't improve consistently through the season.

My hope is that Hoke has a better handle on how to run the team than we do . If not, he will soon be gone.

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February 10th, 2014 at 12:20 AM
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Seeing as how....

The MAC, the Mountain West (SDSt's conference) and B1G thought he was good enough to win coach of the year, my guess is yes, he knows how to run a team better than we do.

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February 10th, 2014 at 4:30 AM
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MAC Coach of the Year

Well, 2011 MAC Coach of the Year was Ron English.  I'm sure Michigan fans (and Hoke himself) would trade any of those coach of the year awards for a conference title. 

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February 10th, 2014 at 10:52 PM
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With Nuss No Fuss

That was the point of my earlier post, with one caveat:  Hoke has a "better handle" on this problem because he believes in a structure of authority and accountability.  He holds the top guy responsible/accountable first (Borges) and expects the new OC to stress the importance of a viable,concentrated offense to his assistants--i.e. Funk.  I believe Nuss will thrive in this environment of trust and empowerment...i really expect the unexpected here, maybe even an up-tempo offense that controls the line of scrimmage with power and tempo.  At least we can hope.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:10 PM
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I think Borges has to take most of the blame for 2013

I don't like the defense either. But for Oline and offense as a whole, big Al was just too creative. There is no way players, let alone new players, would be able to master that many things.

Do something right, do it repeatedly, do it with confidence and authority, then we will see better results.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:46 PM
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"big Al was just too

"big Al was just too creative."

 

That sound you just heard was Stan Parrish rolling over in his grave.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:21 PM
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"and you just endured two

sorry, I tried to break your post down into multiple sections,

 

and you just endured two consecutives season which by many accounts had the worst offensive line in Division 1 football how do you justify keeping the offensive line coach?

 

Because Hoke's been coaching for quite some time and generally know what the hell he's doing

 

 

"We all agree that the offensive as a whole did not perform to expectations. Most of the blame for the failure is because of the offensive line. Hoke has used inexperience and injuries as reasons for poor line play. I suppose in part this is true yet many Division 1 schools have succeeded despite inexperience and injuries. "

 

He's right. I won't let that get in the way.

 

 

"Hoke decided to replace the Borges with Nussmier which in my opinion is an excellent move though somewhat puzzling since Hoke has stated that the problems with the offense was youth and injuries. If true, why was Borges let go and Funk retained? Even more curious is why tell the new OC he cannot have a say on staffing decision concerning the offense? If you are Nussmier and know you are inheriting a less than average offensive line and you cannot do anything about it would be like performing brain surgery wearing a catchers mitt."

 

Who said they can't improve? Guess they shouldn't suit up in 2014.

 

 

"By what logic does Hoke keep and protect Funk? I am not trying to get anyone fired here but I am flummoxed by the reasoning of letting Borges go and keeping Funk."

 

Because there's more to an offense than just an OL.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:13 PM
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Not much that Hoke does seems

Not much that Hoke does seems to be rooted in logic. Like...

*Wasting Shane's redshirt.

*Potentially doing more than he already has to hurt his starting QBs confidence headed into the "season of truth" by saying out loud (while his QB is still healing) that he's in a fight for his job, whether that's true or not.

*After moving him to WR for almost a whole year in favor of a 6'0" QB who can't throw.

* And crippling said 6 foot QB who can't throw's future by failing to prepare him at all (aside from the Iowa and bowl game) for a position that the entire knowing football world could see that he would play in the league. Or one similar to it, ie WR.

*Blowing our chances at a B1G title game appearance in '12 by not praciticng Devin at QB at all prior to Lace going down in the Nebraska game. Instead Bellomy came in. And predictably shit the bed.

I sure hope Nuss can come in and do the job at a very high level right away, because I have zero confidence in Hoke as a motivator (maximizing a player's potential), time manager, and football tactician. To give the guy the benefit of the doubt, the jury is still deliberating on his leadership skills, and he seems like a really nice guy. But logic? Not so much.

 

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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Dude

Shut up! Just make a fire Hoke thread!

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:21 PM
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Man you are

A hindsight genious. You should also advise Saban since he single handily cost Bama a shot at a third title.



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February 9th, 2014 at 6:23 PM
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This is just the worst.

This is just the worst.

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February 9th, 2014 at 11:33 PM
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My head

Can you just...go root for someone else?

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February 10th, 2014 at 5:16 AM
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You don't watch football

You don't watch football much or pay attention to this blog, so I think we can forgive this post. You may want to read the last two years of blog posts and come back then.

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February 10th, 2014 at 9:17 AM
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Wow, so much disinformation in one post....

*Wasting Shane's redshirt.

Bellomy suffered a season-ending ACL injury in spring practice last season. The only other viable option at QB on the depth chart was Morris. Hoke did not "waste" Shane's redshirt.

*Potentially doing more than he already has to hurt his starting QBs confidence headed into the "season of truth" by saying out loud (while his QB is still healing) that he's in a fight for his job, whether that's true or not.

Not that this needs further discussion, since it got the full treatment when it first came up a couple of weeks ago, but a healthy football program has competition at EVERY position. Gardner knows this. Only the trolliest of trolls tries to spins Hoke's comment into some kind of lack of support for Devin.

*After moving him to WR for almost a whole year in favor of a 6'0" QB who can't throw.

So what's your point here? Two comments down you point out that Michigan was a legitimate contender with for the B1G Championship game with Denard at QB until he went down with his elbow injury.

* And crippling said 6 foot QB who can't throw's future by failing to prepare him at all (aside from the Iowa and bowl game) for a position that the entire knowing football world could see that he would play in the league. Or one similar to it, ie WR.

Denard was recruited to play QB. He wanted to play QB. He was our best option at QB the last two seasons of his career here until he got hurt. Suggesting that Hoke didn't have Denard's best interests in mind by leaving him at the position he wanted to play is completely intellectually dishonest.

*Blowing our chances at a B1G title game appearance in '12 by not praciticng Devin at QB at all prior to Lace going down in the Nebraska game. Instead Bellomy came in. And predictably shit the bed.

Jesus, this point has also been talked to death. Devin was the starting WR. Bellomy was the back-up QB. You can't prepare Gardner and Bellomy to fufill their respective roles in the line-up by denying them valuable practice snaps doing something else. You want to criticize the decision of moving Gardner to WR in the first place? Fine. Hoke and Borges wanted to get their 11 best athletes on the field, which is a pretty defensible decision. Should the lack of QB depth been more a concern to both of them? Hindsight something, something, but this meme that Hoke fucked up by not having Gardner ready to go over Bellomy for Nebraska (just in case) is completely ludicrous.

Obvious troll is obvious.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:14 PM
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Coach Nuss & Staffing Decisions

Perhaps what Brady Hoke told Coach Nuss was that he could not come in and restaff the offensive coaches . . . . .

 until he had spent at least one season getting to know them and evaluate them.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:14 PM
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February 9th, 2014 at 7:04 PM
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I should have mine in four weeks

and it is white.:)

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:17 PM
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Very

Nice!

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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If I were Brady I'd find you

If I were Brady I'd find you and kick you square in the nuts. heck I might do that myself

amen!

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February 10th, 2014 at 12:15 PM
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Important questions regarding your "Ar-15"

Do you already have one? Or will you have one in four weeks? Will it be white?

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:16 PM
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Flummoxed

Lol! Confused would've fit better. From what I gathered is Funk's blocking scheme goes well with Nussmeier's offensive scheme.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:19 PM
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Personnel Insertion...

"If you are Nussmier and know you are inheriting a less than average offensive line and you cannot do anything about it would be like performing brain surgery wearing a catchers mitt."

This is not necessarily true, however, and indeed there are several examples - Nussmeier himself being one of them, as I recall - of being inserted into a role with no other personnel changes and having those same assistants and the same players performing much better with different schemes.

It seems to me that this is the thinking here - when we sat here during the fall and mulled over the statement that the offense "lacked identity", it seemed fairly clear that the identity has to come from the OC and their system. If that is not happening, then it seems like it would be difficult for someone like Funk in his position to fully overcome it, especially with a lot of players who just got here basically and are having elements of multiple schemes thrown at them to learn. Bring in someone who can develop a more coherent, simpler scheme and I can foresee a scenario where Funk, his coaching and the players he deals with almost daily look a lot better. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:21 PM
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Obviously Hoke doesn't think

Obviously Hoke doesn't think Funk is the problem, we shall see soon enough.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:02 PM
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"BOW"

-Flockavelli 

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:23 PM
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There are a lot of

There are a lot of assumptions in your post that I am quite certain you do not have personal knowledge of whether or not they are true.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:26 PM
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You could have made this a lot shorter

by placing "I am flummoxed" at the top and letting it stand alone.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:31 PM
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Haha

Right

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:30 PM
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I assume Hoke is keeping Funk

I assume Hoke is keeping Funk because he thinks he can get the job done and didn't have similar confidence in Borges. Your assumption that Nussmeier will have no say in matters related to the OL is certainly way off base. Nussmeier is the offensive coordinator. He will call the plays as well as design plays and offensive schemes that directly impact what the OL does and how they do it. Funk will be expected to contour his teaching wihin that framework. And after the performance of the OL last year I assume Funk will be more than willing to listen to new ideas.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:32 PM
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You either have not read the

You either have not read the front page in six months or you are choosing to ignore the documented fact that Borges was constantly switching up the blocking schemes and they were shuffling guys around like it's a baseball lineup, and this could very well be the foundational cause of their inconsistencies.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:37 PM
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Thank you.

This has been explained more time than I can count...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:12 PM
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Honest question

Do you think Borges had sole decision making power in those decisions?  I'd assume that when it comes to changing personnel and blocking schemes Borges wasn't making them on his own.  I'd guess there was consultation with Funk, possibly other coaches and at least a nod of approval by Hoke. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:17 PM
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No I don't think he did. In

No I don't think he did. In fact I have wondered whether Borges was being pressured by Hoke to run man ball all season knowing he didn't have the personnel who were prepared to do it (like the Penn State for example). Of course that is pure speculation but it isn't much of a stretch IME.

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February 10th, 2014 at 2:32 AM
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Yeah

I've wondered the same thing myself.

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February 10th, 2014 at 5:12 AM
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I doubt it

Hoke's history of coaching does not scream man ball. I think that is mostly talk to point out the program attitude is different, rather than an actual on field philosophy.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:34 PM
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I personally would like to see Funk gone, but I'm

I personally would like to see Funk gone, but I'm not adverse to playing devil's advocate on the subject:

The goal of the offensive line coach is to help develop the line by shoring up the linemen's blocking fundamentals and advanced techniques, help improve their overall football knowledge and get them to effectively block in the team's offensive scheme. Clearly this past year's OL group did not block sufficiently...in this particular offensive scheme. Maybe Hoke believes the group's base knowledge and skill improved enough over the course of the season, even if it didn't translate on the field. Maybe he believes the combination of our players skillsets and Funk's coaching style better fit with what Nuss is bringing to the table.

Then again, maybe Hoke is just irrationally attached to Funk and/or places the linemen's morale over bringing in someone who would possibly be more effective.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:38 PM
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It's real simple.  If we lose

It's real simple.  If we lose a bunch of game in '14, replacing an O-line coach may be part of something larger. 

I like Hoke, but I am wondering if he has gone as far as he can as a coach. That's not a knock on him, as we all have our limits, but he may have reached as far as he can go. I appreciate family values and "This is Michigan" but that only takes you so far. He needs to start winning some games  against the teams that matter in the B1G.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:38 PM
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Who knows, maybe Nuss wanted

Who knows, maybe Nuss wanted Funk retained.  It's impossible to say whether another OL coach could have come in and teach inexperienced guards to the point where they could make strides during the season.  

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:45 PM
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If was Brady Hoke I would not

If was Brady Hoke I would not listen to moronic message board posters. Maybe that is just me.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:46 PM
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Lewan

Taylor Lewan spoke highly of Funk.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:44 PM
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So did Patrick Kugler's dad,

So did Patrick Kugler's dad, who was theSteelers OL coach.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:47 PM
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"By what logic does Hoke keep and protect Funk?

I am not trying to get anyone fired here..."

WTF? Do you not see the ridiculously vast contradiction in the two sentences you've written?

You're trying to have it both ways. Either you think Funk should be let go, or you don't. Choose one.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:44 PM
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The point of my post was

to solicit from the participants of this Blog as to their opinions as to why Funk was retained and Borges let go. To my knowledge Hoke has not been asked this question nor has he given any indication as to how he views the performance of Funk. Also, I don't believe this issue has been discussed on the Board. We have discussed the firing of Borges and the hiring of Nussmier and (at least as far as I know) never the question as to why Hoke opted to keep Funk and let go Borges.

I wanted to make it clear I was not starting a let's fire Funk thread. That would be a waste of bandwidth.

Finally, I realize this is a tough crowd and I am willing to take the heat. If one is going to post he should be prepared to defend himself.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:54 PM
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"Also, I don't believe this

"Also, I don't believe this issue has been discussed on the Board."

If by "the board", you mean some board not related to this one or to Michigan football, then this makes sense.  Like a cheese board.  Or, the Board of Directors of Ford.  Or a surf board.  But using the handy seach function I see 103 pages of results with the exact quote "fire Funk".  This was a daily discussion during November, but also common throughout the season and since.

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February 10th, 2014 at 12:17 AM
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May be Nuss

knew about Funk's coaching skills and thought he was a good coach. You don't know if Nuss was the one who decided to keep Funk. IMO, he probably though Funk was a good coach and could not think of anyone better to bring in.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:18 PM
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Hmm...I'm not the OP...but since you asked

I think he is asking what logical argument Hoke can use on Funk to convince him to stay another season.



He also does't want to get any moderators fired for sleeping on the job.



Thanks for asking Don. Always a pleasure.

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:49 PM
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Please ban the OP

Please ban the OP

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:21 PM
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Please ban the idiots who

Please ban the idiots who bash the coaches on this site

fixed

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February 9th, 2014 at 6:49 PM
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Just a wild guess, but maybe

Just a wild guess, but maybe he thought Borgess was not doing a very good job, and that he could substatially upgrade the position. And maybe he thinks Funk is doing a good job and/or he cannot substantial upgrade the position.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:04 PM
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If I were Hoke

1) I'd practice my public speaking

2) I'd find Urban's phone number and send him naught pics

3)

4) Profit

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:11 PM
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Goddamn it, you morons

Goddamn it, you morons already got your sacrifical lamb in Borges. Wait till Nussemier installs his zone blocking scheme and the OL comes back onto the field with some seasoning under their young belts.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:14 PM
#100
Roc Blue in the Lou
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Nuss Can Muss If a Fuss

IMO Borges failed to find the ONE THING (See Billy Chrystal, et al) this offense could do well,  so he tried several things and had nothing.  I really saw that when we went for the exoctic 2-point conversion in the bowl game (successful) on a highly creative, complex play that, obviously, the offense had practiced to perfection.  IIRC, the commentators were all agog on that one.  Here's the problem:  when the heck did he have time to set that up when the whole damn house of cards was a burning train wreck?  Yeah i just metaphored the shizzle out of that.  Too much focus on the minor and not nearly enough on the major.  Get a running game the Oline can handle before you send out your quadrupple tight-end reverse screen!  Whew, i feel better, been holding that bitter pill since December 28th.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:22 PM
#101
LightTheLamp
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This is what you call beating a dead

This is what you call beating a dead horse.

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:46 PM
#102
clarkiefromcanada
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"I'm not trying to get anyone fired here"

Blog posts usually don't lead to that...

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February 9th, 2014 at 7:55 PM
#103
TickerTape
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Im going to down vote you or

Im going to down vote you or give you negative points or whatever because im 16 years old and I guess that shits important and then im going to say constructive criticism is not allowed on here, and if you dont believe me then look at the very important comments people leave about my post. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:15 PM
(Reply to #80) #104
TIMMMAAY
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Um

You can't down vote anyone. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:07 PM
#105
TIMMMAAY
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You people. 

You people. 

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:08 PM
#106
falco_alba15
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Well for starters

Funk has coached NFL talent. Offensive linemen don't become first round picks overnight. Yes, youth is an issue. Inexperience is an issue. But Molk, Lewan, and Schofield aren't good just because they stepped onto the field. They got coached. Let's see what happens this year.



As for Borges, if any head coach is willing to bash their offensive coordinator mid season, that shows a lack of respect, commitment, and is very divisive. I wouldn't think that head coach should even be a head coach if he is willing to throw his OC under the bus like that mid-season. That's not fair to the players, the coaches, the athletic department, the students, and the fans. Borges got his chance and Hoke decided he wasn't the best fit for the program after Borges put together a body of work that proved it.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:16 PM
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If I was the head coach at

If I was the head coach at Michigan, I'll tell you what I'd do. Two chicks at the same time, man.

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February 9th, 2014 at 8:38 PM
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Hahaha

Hahahaha

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February 10th, 2014 at 8:03 AM
(Reply to #92) #109
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Awesome.

Just awesome

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February 9th, 2014 at 10:42 PM
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Fuckin

A

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:08 PM
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I would order a pizza, call

I would order a pizza, call up John to bring the subs and allow shit to get crazy.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:37 PM
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terrible thread title, you

terrible thread title, you can do better than that 

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:51 PM
#113
mishler3
Joined: 09/01/2009
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Yup

Now STFU.

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February 9th, 2014 at 9:53 PM
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mishler3
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My bad this got posted in the wrong section

I'm a knucklehead.

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February 9th, 2014 at 10:32 PM
#115
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Too nice of a guy

Hoke is everyone's best friend. He is very good friends with his entire staff, and moreso with Funk. Sometimes I think his loyalty is a hinderance.

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February 9th, 2014 at 11:26 PM
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We've heard this undocumented

We've heard this undocumented trope before. Then he went and fired his BFF xoxo.

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February 9th, 2014 at 11:36 PM
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Personally I don't think Hoke wanted Borges gone.

Personally I don't think Hoke wanted Borges gone. A few weeks before firing him he said every staff member would be back. That is until Big Dave had his say. Research before you claim stuff is undocumented.

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February 9th, 2014 at 11:46 PM
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marti221
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Link to "every staff member

Link to "every staff member will be back" statement?

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February 10th, 2014 at 12:32 AM
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Don
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A few weeks before firing him he said every staff member would b

On December 2 Hoke said, "I anticipate the staff (returning)..."

The word "anticipate" is frequently used in these situations specifically to give the speaker wiggle room. Hoke would have been crazy to tell the media before the bowl game that he was going to make changes to the staff.

If you don't want to see any nuance in what Hoke said, that's your business.

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February 10th, 2014 at 9:42 AM
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Welp

I think this username is dead.  Better start a new one and try again.

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February 10th, 2014 at 7:33 AM
#121
Cold War
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A "Fire Funk" post on MGoBlog

A "Fire Funk" post on MGoBlog is being downvoted 4-39 and people are defending Funk. Is today Upside Down Day? Should I wear my pajamas to work and eat my dinner for  breakfast?

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February 10th, 2014 at 9:34 AM
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Wait, wearing pajamas to work

Wait, wearing pajamas to work is weird?

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February 10th, 2014 at 1:01 PM
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MGoBlueFan90
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A "Fire Funk" post on MGoBlog

A "Fire Funk" post on MGoBlog is being downvoted 4-39

Not enough downvotes, and 4 too many upvotes

people are defending Funk

Hoke thinks he's good enough, and that's whose opinion matters to me.

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February 10th, 2014 at 10:06 AM
#124
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It means

Borges was responsible for OL and not Funk

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February 10th, 2014 at 1:08 PM
#125
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Uh...

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February 10th, 2014 at 7:17 PM
#126
raubuch
Joined: 12/18/2013
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Stability

A program cannot be built quickly without stability. I believe Hoke is trying to keep most of the coaching staff, because he doesn't want so many different coaches. Cam Gordon made it public that it was hard because he has had 7 different position coaches. Also, I don't know many teams in the top 25 that had extremely young offensive lines with no leader. Lewan was a great player, but we can tell from this rape incident he is in no way a team leader.

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February 11th, 2014 at 12:21 AM
#127
I dumped the Dope
Joined: 09/22/2013
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Balance & disguise

Recall how Nebraska's defense said they could tell the plays Michigan was going to run...

Recall how many times we tried to jam it up into a loaded box...

Recall how the bubble screen as a solution to defensive aggressiveness was laughed off...

It was pretty obvious we didn't have the OL in '13 to actually run teams over.  So when we did run (and I think there were some cues...I can't tell what specifically, but I bet Mattison could figure it out) it was a numerical mismatch.

Bubble screens as a solution were laughed off.  I saw some lightning slants but those were rarely caught...the timing has to be too perfect imho.  Chesson never really got any deep balls thrown at him.

I think this fits with the "no identity" as there was really none to speak of.  It was serviceable, but it lacked balance, or otherwise said, the play variety to keep the defense off-balance and guessing.  Ohio seemed to be sort of a turning point, but that was a little too late.

Trying to ignite the torches and ferret out Funk doesn't seem to be the right idea....yet.  Lets see what Nuss can do, I bet its going to be greater than the season prior.

And if Hoke thinks a change would help, then my guess is he will do it.

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