Title really says it all. Opinions or inside info on the situation??
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
If we dont get Kozan do we take another OL in 2013??
February 25th, 2012 at 10:38 PM
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If we dont get Kozan do we take another OL in 2013??
February 25th, 2012 at 10:59 PM | 
(In before a Yuri Wright or
(In before a Yuri Wright or
February 25th, 2012 at 10:42 PM |
Kozan who?
Kozan who?
Kozan who?
February 25th, 2012 at 10:42 PM |
No.
No.
Walk on city baby.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 25th, 2012 at 10:42 PM |
Jeeeeeeeeeez........
Jeeeeeeeeeez........
Jeeeeeeeeeez........
February 25th, 2012 at 10:42 PM |
No
No
I don't think we need a 6th lineman in the class.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:43 PM |
Kugler looks to be our option
Kugler looks to be our option
Kugler looks to be our option at Center. Really skilled, good size, and his dad is an O line coach with the Steelers. At this point not a big deal if we miss out on Kozan.
Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:45 PM |
Best to forget about Kozan, I
Best to forget about Kozan, I
Best to forget about Kozan, I don't think he even knows where he's going.
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:47 PM |
Do we know whether Kozan's
Do we know whether Kozan's
Do we know whether Kozan's offer is still committable?
February 25th, 2012 at 10:46 PM |
I think if Tunsil or Pocic
I think if Tunsil or Pocic
I think if Tunsil or Pocic come knocking we snap take either one.....other than that I think we are sitting pretty pretty good
February 25th, 2012 at 10:45 PM |
Personally, I'd continue
Personally, I'd continue
Personally, I'd continue recruiting in case anything unexpected happens with one of the current commits (decommitment, qualification issue, etc.), but I wouldn't plan to go higher than five - and I'd communicate that to the current commits. That's partly because I think the additional scholarship(s) is better used elsewhere but also because I think bringing in more guys in one class than there are OL positions might lead to someone getting cold feet. If I were the coaching staff, my primary goal with OL recruiting right now would be to get this group as close with one another, the coaches, and the university more generally as possible.
This is an amazing group that could do great things together, and I'd be thrilled if these are the guys we end up with on Signing Day.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
Cold feet
Cold feet
I agree that bringing in more guys than positions creates an odd situation (you pretty much know that half the guys in the group won't ever get a chance to start) but I don't know that it prevents you from landing commits. Stanford had 4 linemen in the fold (three 4-stars) and was still able to add Garnett late and two 5-stars on signing day. Who knows if taking that many guys at one position will end up being good business, but cold feet didn't seem to be an issue.
I'm guessing (much like with kids admitted to law school all thinking they will finish in the top 25% of their class) that most recruits think they will end up playing no matter how many other players are in the fold. Or at least they can be talked into thinking that way.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:33 PM |
Good point, but I think that
Good point, but I think that
Good point, but I think that part of the reason that it worked out for Stanford was that those guys committed so late that the existing commits didn't have much time to second-guess themselves.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:46 PM |
WTF?
WTF?
Is Kozan a 5* program changing left tackle or something? Why are we so enamored with him?
I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:48 PM |
He can play C.
He can play C.
He can play C.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:52 PM |
Khoury? Miller? And Krugler
Khoury? Miller? And Krugler
Khoury? Miller? And Krugler just committed for the 2013 class. I don't know the stats, but it seems that most players that wait this long to commit don't do well over their 4 years.
I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:07 AM |
Who is this Krugler everyone
Who is this Krugler everyone
Who is this Krugler everyone keeps mentioning?
"Dream Big, Work Hard"
February 26th, 2012 at 12:09 AM |
Personally, I'm worried most
Personally, I'm worried most
Personally, I'm worried most about 2013, when Khoury will be gone and Kugler will be a true frosh. We'll have no real back-up center, and very little OL depth at all, outside of the true frosh.
The fact that Kozan is a year older than these 2013 guys and would be here this fall makes him more valuable.
February 26th, 2012 at 9:35 AM |
Exactly
Exactly
It's like people didn't even watch the Sugar Bowl. Molk goes down, Khoury gets nervous. Since the next guy in the depth chart was Miller, a true freshman, we end up playing Molk for the game despite the fact he only has one good leg.
No C in 2012 means a depth chart of two for awhile. One injury or one guy not developing then means a problem.
February 26th, 2012 at 6:19 PM |
Not too worried.
Not too worried.
Kalis or Magnuson could play center if we needed them to. Their taller than would be ideal, but they would do fine.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:48 PM |
WTH
WTH
Kozan why do we care ...??
mwright900
February 25th, 2012 at 10:50 PM |
Probably take at least one more either way
Probably take at least one more either way
The coaches were clearly prepared to take 6-7 guys in the 2012 class but ended up with only 4 (so far). After next season we lose at least 4 offensive linemen to graduation (Lewan will definitely get NFL interest as well).
Just to tread water we need to take 4-5 and Coach Hoke has talked about wanting to lift the overall numbers to 14-16 (we'll have 12 in 2012). Considering the offers that are still out there, I'm pretty sure we'd take one or two more blue-chip guys if they wanted to commit.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
February 25th, 2012 at 10:50 PM |
Any Chance
Any Chance
We can flip Diggs or DGB? I also wonder if Reeves, Elmer, Wright, or Kiel want to come on board?
/s
When is "/s" repetively redundant?
February 25th, 2012 at 10:57 PM |
So if my post
So if my post
Is labeled redundant when I already said it was repetively redundant does that tear a whole in the fabric of the space time continum?
February 25th, 2012 at 10:59 PM |
repetitively*
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February 25th, 2012 at 11:02 PM |
So close
So close
I wuz shure i spelt moore wordz rong then dat.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:00 PM |
UHHHHH a little late to the
UHHHHH a little late to the
UHHHHH a little late to the show . . . . we are still trying to flip Elmer per Sam Webb.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:18 PM |
Not happening
Not happening
Not happening
I may be drunk, but you're ugly, and in the morning I'll be sober.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:21 PM |
Elmer's dad has subsequently
Elmer's dad has subsequently
Elmer's dad has subsequently put the kibosh on any chance of flipping. But who knows.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:13 AM |
Never say never.
Never say never.
We're just one "Brian Kelly meltdown on TV causing him to get suspended or fired" away from pouching Elmer.
Hey, it could happen.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
February 25th, 2012 at 10:58 PM |
I heard
I heard
through my sources, that kozan is going over his offers in an undisclosed location while having a tea party with his Teddy bear companion "Fred."
February 25th, 2012 at 10:58 PM |
At this point, do we really
At this point, do we really
At this point, do we really WANT Kozan? The commits that we are getting are great, in part, because they WANT to be Michigan Men. It seems to me that if Kozan really WANTED to be a Michigan Man that he would have committed to us shortly after not sending in his LOI to Iowa. Even if he decided tomorrow that he wanted to become a Wolverine, I don't know how I would feel about that. Is his heart going to be in it? Is he really going to buy into the team, or is he going to leave after a year if he isn't getting playing time?
I hate to say that I don't WANT a highly ranked prospect, but I am leaning towards saying I would prefer that he DIDN'T come to play here.
Having the number 1 recruiting class means nothing without good coaches to mold the players into champions!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:06 PM |
Totally agree. Even before
Totally agree. Even before
Totally agree. Even before the OL avalanche of the last week, I was thinking that I would not be to excited if I heard that Kozan had picked Michigan. Now, it's like who cares?
The only situation I can see being excited about having him is if his delay has been due to some kind of disagreement with his parents... like, he wanted Michigan all along, but they wanted Iowa. Otherwise, his prolonged indecision is nothing but concerning. And yes, he's only a kid, cut him some slack... but being a kid didn't stop hundreds of other 2012 recruits from making a decision.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:58 PM |
Diggs?
Diggs?
Diggs?
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get into a land war with Asia. But only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:08 PM |
any chance
any chance
We can still sign Nick Perry and Rojo?
February 26th, 2012 at 9:34 AM |
Love it...
Love it...
/winbutton
THE TEAM! THE TEAM! THE TEAM!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:18 PM |
Prefer we stick to 5 in this
Prefer we stick to 5 in this
Prefer we stick to 5 in this class and spread out the OL depth. Take another 4 guys in 2014, and another 4 in 2015. With some attrition and maybe a successful walk-on that should put us in the 15-16 range.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:21 PM |
Is Kozan respectively
Is Kozan respectively
Is Kozan respectively declining to talk to media? Just wondering there hasen't been anything regarding him anywhere. Time is running out.
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
February 26th, 2012 at 4:18 PM |
Time running out?
Time running out?
Kozan still has three months if someone is willing to wait that long.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:34 PM |
Wait, wait, wait
Wait, wait, wait
I thought we were all opperating on RDT's theory that Kozan is actually the Lindbergh Baby? That Kozan isn't going to school, because then they'd find out he's actually 107 years old.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:37 PM |
I stand by this
I stand by this
I dare someone to prove me wrong.
Roll Tide.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:44 PM |
Dare accepted
Dare accepted
You're wrong.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:09 AM |
Pfft
Pfft
To prove me wrong, you'd have to get in contact with Alex Kozan. No one can get in touch with him. Coincidence? I think not.
Roll Tide.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:06 AM |
I was under the impression
I was under the impression
I was under the impression that Kozan actually has Benjamin Button syndrome, I.e. he committed when he was 18, but then got too young and is now closing in on diapers
"Dream Big, Work Hard"
February 25th, 2012 at 11:41 PM |
hmmmmm.....
hmmmmm.....
Did someone mention a vision quest?
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
February 26th, 2012 at 3:18 AM |
Holy crap
Holy crap
we have the greatest wrestling movie ever showing up on the board. Thank you sir for this it made my day.
21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:45 PM |
We opened up three buttons,
We opened up three buttons,
We opened up three buttons, but all we saw was desert trash
"This is Michigan for God sakes" -Brady Hoke
February 25th, 2012 at 11:49 PM |
Kozan Larry?
Kozan Larry?
February 25th, 2012 at 11:50 PM |
We shouldn't, at this point,
We shouldn't, at this point,
We shouldn't, at this point, count on or even think about Kozan. If we had that in mind, we would take another this year, but I'm not sure if they even want one.
Ever notice how everytime ND upgrades their stadium, it still looks like the Big House? The 2015 artist rendering is no different...Go Blue
February 26th, 2012 at 12:27 AM |
Has anyone filed a missing
Has anyone filed a missing
Has anyone filed a missing persons report on him yet?
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
February 26th, 2012 at 1:34 AM |
If we don't get
If we don't get
Reggie Bush do you insiders think we take another RB this year? I really think it is between U of M and USC IMO.
21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.
(In before a Yuri Wright or Demar Dorsey joke.)
((or Diggs, damn you.))