I hate to see him go this way, if the previous posts are true.
Maybe we can have a MgoBlog poll.
Notice I didn't mention RR....oops...just did. Well we know that ain't happening.
I say Urban Meyer.
Been a lot of Urban Meyer talk heating up. Rather he go to PSU than eventually end up at OSU.
Urban Meyer is going to be mentioned for every high end opening.
I wonder if Schiano is still a candidate for them?
Also, I have to wonder if Al Golden will abandon the U ship while he can. Remember, he brought the sinking ship that was Temple back to the national football conversation. Obviously Temple is the same recruiting turf for Penn State. While he was reviving Temple, I know some people mentioned him for the PSU whenever JoePa left. In the interim he took the Miami job.
Golden would make the most sense. He didn't sign up for the drama going on in Miami, and he doesn't seem like a Miami coach. He's also one of the coaches out there that actually believes in Penn State and would want to bring it back up from this low point in its history.
The allegations didn't really surface until 2002 though right? How can you blame a guy who most likely had no idea what was going on?
Stuff started to come out in 1998... read the Tribune article linked in Brian's piece. Not saying Golden knew or didn't know... just that things were out well before 2002.
The allegations dated back to 1998, and were most likely the reason Sandusky "retired" in 1999 at the age of 55.
i like Meyer for an un-opened job at this moment...Alabama. If the chatter is true, that Saban may be in line for an NFL coaching job next year (40-60 he goes off of limited data), than I think that is perfect for Urban...If not something big in the SEC, I don't see him coming back....esp for the BIG
Why would Saban do that again?
And why would an NFL team do that again? His tenure in Miami was a total trainwreck.
Thought it was much worse than that. I guess the embarassing pressers can go a long way to coloring impressions...
And the fact that he screwed the team over after flatly denying that he would be the next Alabama head coach.
I would love to see where you're hearing this one. I've got a TON of Alabama fans and no one seems to be hearing anything about him leaving anytime soon.
Though I wouldn't be too surprised. Saban is the most Prideful guy and he did not do well in the NFL. That's always been his goal, so wouldn't surprise me if the right situation popped up. But, I just have not heard anything from the Alabama camps.
I'm just curious.
Great call. If I recall, Schiano always said PSU was his dream job. He has a long term K with Rutgers but you know how those buy outs go.
I don't know which program disaster I'd want to walk into between those two. Urban generally strikes me as an all right, if wierd, guy and I imagine him not having great feeling about either of the two athletic departments right about now.
He was one of the guys I wanted Michigan to pursue during the coaching search, and has been JoePa's heir apparent if it's not Schiano.
PSU would be committing football suicide to have any Paterno folk within 100 miles of State College.
The taint even touches the innocent over there in Happy Valley.
If it turns out that he knew nothing about what Sandusky was doing, he shouldn't be blackballed. Being able to continue the same system should help them over the next few years. Paterno's handling of this case was inexcusable but it doesn't follow that they have to rip out his entire program at the roots and start over from scratch.
It's unfair if he wasn't involved/didn't know anything, but dem's the breaks. There's no way PSU would take the inevitably huge PR hit for hiring him, which it would, unless it could demonstrably prove that he didn't know (which they can't, because you can't prove a negative like that).
Bradley may not deserve that, but that's what happens when you hitch your wagon to someone who comes crashing down to Earth in a well-deserved meteoric fall from grace.
joepa should step down for not reporting
it doesn't mean they have to burn down happy valley
why aren't more people talking about Twin City Socks??? They are awesome, best part of 3&Out.
Cool. I just read that chapter 30 minutes ago.
I want me some of those. I walk around the house in my socks because it's comfy. But my socks get holes in them after about a week.
Where can I get some?
I would love to see them hire Matt Millen.
Matt Millan and PSU - what goes around, comes around. Payback for PSU for sending Millen out into the football world.
in his coaching debut, Matt Millen and the PSU Nitty Lions take the field on offense......Not sure what is going on, but they appear to be lining up in some sort of 11 player, all WR formation?
Bill Bellichick as HC
Matt Millen as OC
Rich Rod as DC
Maurice Clarrett as RB coach
Jim Tressel as Compliance Office Director
And we can't forget, Gordon "I hope Tressel doesn't fire me" Gee, as their new athletic director.
My guess is they both pursue Urban Meyer hard, who is still technically on the fence, and both fail to get him. I think he is out of coaching and just likes the attention. Al Golden, by this time, will have realized that even with the sanctions, Miami is a sleeping giant and fertile recruiting ground. Why leave and follow a coach like Joe Paterno (who's legacy has just been recently tarnished, but hey that statue ain't goin anywhere) when you can rebuild Miami and become a legend in your own right. I don't think he leaves The U unless sanctions are that bad.
Basically, I think OSU could potentially stick with Fickell or maybe steal Toledo's coach. Penn State? Who knows.
and plays in a shitty off-campus stadium with less than 40,000 in attendance. this is not the 90s anymore.
I really can't imagine Meyer or these big names going to PSU right now. With this big of a black eye, no AD, etc the program is nuclear.
Maybe they'll hire their version of Ellerbe, someone who can dink around for a couple of years until things pass over, and then go after Meyer or Schiano. I just can't imagine those guys even wanting to be associated with this mess right now.
Alabama - Shula before Saban
and is happening at USC. Kiffin before ...
Someone to get then through the controversial years before they settle into their next big time HC.
If the OSU stuff drags out, it could be interesting to see two of the most storried football programs (OSU and PSU) trying to lure elite coaches in the face of some of the biggest football scandals ever.
RR before Hoke.
We had a major controversey leading to Lloyd Carr's dismissal?
I don't think RR follows the analogy. He/She means that there will be an intermediary coach, like Kiffin who came in after Carroll, and presumably there will be a a legendary type coach to come in after Kiffin to restore the glory, like Saban did for Bama. Could be misreading it though.
I get the point, but don't think Kiffin is a good example. If you're hiring someone to be a bridge through the controvesial years, then that person should not be controvesial themself. Otherwise you get compound controvesy growth, which is never good.
the new HC will come from within.
I would have agreed with that before and it might still be true but now that the scandal, although not an NCAA based scandal, involves several people within the program, will PSU feel like they have to take an outsider to cut the stink off?
just have to see how it all plays out. they could bring in an outsider and clean house. Not the first time its every happened.
It is not likely that there will be a trial within the next few months, and it may well be closer to a year before the trial occurs. They can't wait that long to act. As a result, I agree with those who say they will have to clean house. Further, there is no guarantee that a trial will let everyone know who was involved or that there will be a trial at all. It seems pretty likely to me that Sandusky's lawyers will try to get a plea deal that keeps him out of a maximum security prison.
I agree with you only if the internal candidate has no knowledge or experience with the situation that caused all of this turmoil. If they all were part of it, or knew about it and did nothing, then they may completely clean house IMO...
You mean kind of like Fickell? He is an upstanding coach that had no knowledge of the situation..
inappropriate behavior with a minor in the football locker room are a little different. Last time I checked Fickell is the Interim coach... I dont think you can draw conclusion from two totally different situations.
Is that a really really really really bad pun, given the context of all of this... or has all of this just warped my brain so that's all I see.
That wasn't a double entendre'.
Didn't Meyer stop coaching because of health reasons? Has his health gotten better or will he do the same thing in a couple of years?
Stress related health problems if I recall correctly. That's why I don't understand why his name is still being tossed around by every college looking for a head coach.
that the dirty UF boosters had too much control and Urban didn't like that.
In his radio interview shorly after his "retirement" he mentioned the shadiness of the SEC coaches and ADs. I don't think he had any real health issues, he was burnt out of coaching in the SEC trying to keep up with all the other dirty programs. His heart has always been in the Big Ten, but I don't think he'd go to PSU. Not close enough to home and he doesn't want to go somewhere where he has to put up with more BS that he didn't have Anything to do with.
I'd be surprised if he even considered the job, but who knows......