Been a lot of Urban Meyer
URb
Urban Meyer is going to be mentioned for every high end opening.
I wonder if Schiano is still a candidate for them?
Also, I have to wonder if Al Golden will abandon the U ship while he can. Remember, he brought the sinking ship that was Temple back to the national football conversation. Obviously Temple is the same recruiting turf for Penn State. While he was reviving Temple, I know some people mentioned him for the PSU whenever JoePa left. In the interim he took the Miami job.
Golden would make the most
Golden would make the most sense. He didn't sign up for the drama going on in Miami, and he doesn't seem like a Miami coach. He's also one of the coaches out there that actually believes in Penn State and would want to bring it back up from this low point in its history.
Golden coached at PSU (2000)
Golden coached at PSU (2000) when Sandusky was allegedly assaulting minors. He might have been part of the cover-up, and should not be allowed to be considered for the HC position until he is officially cleared. PSU needs to go WAY outside of the family so they recruit or sell tickets again. Money is on Urban Meyer.
"I would hope that understanding and reconciliation are not limited to the 19th hole alone." - President Gerald R Ford, Michigan '35
The allegations didn't really
The allegations didn't really surface until 2002 though right? How can you blame a guy who most likely had no idea what was going on?
Stuff started to come out in
Stuff started to come out in 1998... read the Tribune article linked in Brian's piece. Not saying Golden knew or didn't know... just that things were out well before 2002.
The allegations dated back to
The allegations dated back to 1998, and were most likely the reason Sandusky "retired" in 1999 at the age of 55.
i like Meyer for an un-opened
i like Meyer for an un-opened job at this moment...Alabama. If the chatter is true, that Saban may be in line for an NFL coaching job next year (40-60 he goes off of limited data), than I think that is perfect for Urban...If not something big in the SEC, I don't see him coming back....esp for the BIG
Why would Saban do that again?
Why would Saban do that again?
LSA, Class of 2009
And why would an NFL team do
And why would an NFL team do that again? His tenure in Miami was a total trainwreck.
Thought it was much worse
Thought it was much worse than that. I guess the embarassing pressers can go a long way to coloring impressions...
And the fact that he screwed
And the fact that he screwed the team over after flatly denying that he would be the next Alabama head coach.
LSA, Class of 2009
Not sure about this one
I would love to see where you're hearing this one. I've got a TON of Alabama fans and no one seems to be hearing anything about him leaving anytime soon.
Though I wouldn't be too surprised. Saban is the most Prideful guy and he did not do well in the NFL. That's always been his goal, so wouldn't surprise me if the right situation popped up. But, I just have not heard anything from the Alabama camps.
I'm just curious.
Great call. If I recall,
Great call. If I recall, Schiano always said PSU was his dream job. He has a long term K with Rutgers but you know how those buy outs go.
I don't know which program
I don't know which program disaster I'd want to walk into between those two. Urban generally strikes me as an all right, if wierd, guy and I imagine him not having great feeling about either of the two athletic departments right about now.
Tom Bradley.
He was one of
Tom Bradley.
He was one of the guys I wanted Michigan to pursue during the coaching search, and has been JoePa's heir apparent if it's not Schiano.
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No way Bradley.
PSU would be committing football suicide to have any Paterno folk within 100 miles of State College.
The taint even touches the innocent over there in Happy Valley.
taint...touches...innocent...
taint...touches...innocent...
too soon.
Bradley
If it turns out that he knew nothing about what Sandusky was doing, he shouldn't be blackballed. Being able to continue the same system should help them over the next few years. Paterno's handling of this case was inexcusable but it doesn't follow that they have to rip out his entire program at the roots and start over from scratch.
It's Unfair
It's unfair if he wasn't involved/didn't know anything, but dem's the breaks. There's no way PSU would take the inevitably huge PR hit for hiring him, which it would, unless it could demonstrably prove that he didn't know (which they can't, because you can't prove a negative like that).
Bradley may not deserve that, but that's what happens when you hitch your wagon to someone who comes crashing down to Earth in a well-deserved meteoric fall from grace.
"Nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours."
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater
joepa should step down for not reporting
it doesn't mean they have to burn down happy valley
Obligatory List
John Gruden
Urban Meyer
Bill Cower
Brian Billick
Matt Millen
Formerly akron_wolverine and columbus_wolverine. New home, new name. A year in Columbus was enough.
Forgot
Dungy.
Nice...
why aren't more people talking about Twin City Socks??? They are awesome, best part of 3&Out.
Cool. I just read that chapter 30 minutes ago.
Cool. I just read that chapter 30 minutes ago.
I want me some of those. I walk around the house in my socks because it's comfy. But my socks get holes in them after about a week.
Where can I get some?
M'Dog
I would love to see them hire
I would love to see them hire Matt Millen.
"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"
Matt Millen and PSU
Matt Millan and PSU - what goes around, comes around. Payback for PSU for sending Millen out into the football world.
And now..
in his coaching debut, Matt Millen and the PSU Nitty Lions take the field on offense......Not sure what is going on, but they appear to be lining up in some sort of 11 player, all WR formation?
“Oh Yeah, what he said forgodsakes...” - -
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Bill Bellichick as HC Matt
Bill Bellichick as HC
Matt Millen as OC
Rich Rod as DC
Maurice Clarrett as RB coach
Jim Tressel as Compliance Office Director
And we can't forget, Gordon "I hope Tressel doesn't fire me" Gee, as their new athletic director.
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
My guess is they both pursue
My guess is they both pursue Urban Meyer hard, who is still technically on the fence, and both fail to get him. I think he is out of coaching and just likes the attention. Al Golden, by this time, will have realized that even with the sanctions, Miami is a sleeping giant and fertile recruiting ground. Why leave and follow a coach like Joe Paterno (who's legacy has just been recently tarnished, but hey that statue ain't goin anywhere) when you can rebuild Miami and become a legend in your own right. I don't think he leaves The U unless sanctions are that bad.
Basically, I think OSU could potentially stick with Fickell or maybe steal Toledo's coach. Penn State? Who knows.
Miami is going to get hammered
and plays in a shitty off-campus stadium with less than 40,000 in attendance. this is not the 90s anymore.
I really can't imagine Meyer
I really can't imagine Meyer or these big names going to PSU right now. With this big of a black eye, no AD, etc the program is nuclear.
Maybe they'll hire their version of Ellerbe, someone who can dink around for a couple of years until things pass over, and then go after Meyer or Schiano. I just can't imagine those guys even wanting to be associated with this mess right now.
This is exactly what happen with
Alabama - Shula before Saban
and is happening at USC. Kiffin before ...
Someone to get then through the controversial years before they settle into their next big time HC.
Fickel before...
If the OSU
Fickel before...
If the OSU stuff drags out, it could be interesting to see two of the most storried football programs (OSU and PSU) trying to lure elite coaches in the face of some of the biggest football scandals ever.
Hopefully,
RR before Hoke.
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
We had a major controversey
We had a major controversey leading to Lloyd Carr's dismissal?
I don't think RR follows the
I don't think RR follows the analogy. He/She means that there will be an intermediary coach, like Kiffin who came in after Carroll, and presumably there will be a a legendary type coach to come in after Kiffin to restore the glory, like Saban did for Bama. Could be misreading it though.
Leaders and Best
I get the point, but don't
I get the point, but don't think Kiffin is a good example. If you're hiring someone to be a bridge through the controvesial years, then that person should not be controvesial themself. Otherwise you get compound controvesy growth, which is never good.
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
Good chance
the new HC will come from within.
Would have agreed before but...
I would have agreed with that before and it might still be true but now that the scandal, although not an NCAA based scandal, involves several people within the program, will PSU feel like they have to take an outsider to cut the stink off?
Maybe,
just have to see how it all plays out. they could bring in an outsider and clean house. Not the first time its every happened.
Too long
It is not likely that there will be a trial within the next few months, and it may well be closer to a year before the trial occurs. They can't wait that long to act. As a result, I agree with those who say they will have to clean house. Further, there is no guarantee that a trial will let everyone know who was involved or that there will be a trial at all. It seems pretty likely to me that Sandusky's lawyers will try to get a plea deal that keeps him out of a maximum security prison.
In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel.
Agreed if
I agree with you only if the internal candidate has no knowledge or experience with the situation that caused all of this turmoil. If they all were part of it, or knew about it and did nothing, then they may completely clean house IMO...
"It is better, of course, to know useless things than to know nothing."
"The world is given to me only once..."
You mean kind of like
You mean kind of like Fickell? He is an upstanding coach that had no knowledge of the situation..
riiight...
Tattoos and
inappropriate behavior with a minor in the football locker room are a little different. Last time I checked Fickell is the Interim coach... I dont think you can draw conclusion from two totally different situations.
"It is better, of course, to know useless things than to know nothing."
"The world is given to me only once..."
uhhhhh
Is that a really really really really bad pun, given the context of all of this... or has all of this just warped my brain so that's all I see.
I seriously hope
That wasn't a double entendre'.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
Didn't Meyer stop coaching
Didn't Meyer stop coaching because of health reasons? Has his health gotten better or will he do the same thing in a couple of years?
"Shiny. Let's be bad guys."
Stress related health
Stress related health problems if I recall correctly. That's why I don't understand why his name is still being tossed around by every college looking for a head coach.
Special Teams means special times!
Well, there is also the rumor
that the dirty UF boosters had too much control and Urban didn't like that.
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
Been a lot of Urban Meyer talk heating up. Rather he go to PSU than eventually end up at OSU.
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