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You said it best-
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Don't worry I upvoted you. I don't know what happened the first time I posted.
Hey it's ok, because next year is our year!
It's just a friendly disagreement based on optimistic expectations.
I AM optimistic for next season. Based on my own personal expectations, this staff exceeded expectations in 2011, fell short in 2012, and this year either treaded water (or fell just short). 2014 is still a make or break year, but I'm willing to say that I had unrealistic expectations for the o line after Lewan announced his return. We were young, we struggled, and the bowl game was bad, and I've got serious doubts about all of the coaches after last night.
But I can't say I'm too surprised - I figured we were in for a rough offensive output sans Denard and four OL. I personally reset my expectations because of Lewan's return and that was silly.
I have high expectations for 2014. I reserve the right to pick up a torch and pitchfork at the conclusion of next season. But I'm not pulling them out just yet.
I'm okay saying "see ya."
I wouldn't disagree with your anticipated outcomes if I thought that all was well between players and coaches, and if I thought our coaches were competent, which I don't in Borgess' case and which I am starting to question with Mattison, although the jury is still out on that one.
I was looking at Lowe's today, and they are fresh out of pitchforks, and torches are on back order thanks to Sparty
It's always two years.
However if this time last season you told me the line would struggle and we'd be 7-6, I'd shrug my shoulders and say "well they are young."
Been a rough stretch but we can't change the past. I still have some belief that the future is bright.
"damn, that's the worst possible outcome i was reasonably expecting. thanks for bringing out the pessimist in me, michigan."
I would of said to shut your dirty whorish mouth.
Though technically, we didn't get the black president until a little more than two years later...
I'm tired of looking back.
Agreed, and what in his coaching record would lead anyone to believe otherwise? He's a career mediocre coach!
Hoke is clearly in over his head. He can recruit, but has no ability to manage his coaching staff or Gameplan. I'm for consistency and giving more time in general, but it's hard to see someone so lost moving the program forward in the next 1-2 years.
Hoke's hiring was completely reactionary. We need to go out and find a proactive new coach to move this program into the future.
We did that in 2008 and it didn't turn out so well.
needs to be learned before people will axcept a non-Michigan Man at the helm.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The whole "Fire Hoke" contingent seems to yearn for Harbaugh to swoop in and take over. I don't see the lesson getting learned anytime soon.
I'm just waiting until the day when we can say "Remember when we sucked at football?" This may take a few years/decades if the coaching staff isn't changed.
Remember early 2k's in basketball?
I just hope it's not the same kind of ten year spread given it's been the better part of 7 now.
I've tried to have forgotten those years, but those were absolutely awful. Here's to a better 2014 and beyond.
If it is a ten year kind of thing then we only have what, three more years, to go?
The closest stretch in modern history - i know, depends on when you peg that - is the latter Oosterbaan-Bump Elliott period, which saw Michigan eclipsed by Ohio State coached by Woody Hayes and Michigan State coached by Duffy Dougherty. That ran for 13 years if you count Oosterbaan's final two years.
Looking back, that seemed like a long stretch. We're close to matching it right now.
So what that means to me, is that the ship ought to be righting itself pretty soon. Question is how this could happen.
There's much to be said for maturity. Sometimes you go through a rough patch and think "my best days are behind me," and then all of a sudden you see things open up in front of you.
Michigan is different, the B1G is no longer the Big11Ten, and CFB is getting a playoff. And yet I still think our best days are in front if us. We've just been through a rough patch.
Ya, it's not gonna happen
Hasn't been a "does Morris start next year thread" and fwiw I think he will
You think Morris is going to start next year based on an above average performance in a 31-14 loss? Gardner had 75% of our offensive yards this season. He played out of his mind against OSU. He had a broken foot for half of that game. I usually try to be nice when I disagree with someone, but you are either under the age of 16, old enough to remember segregation, or watched very little of our season if you think Morris starts over Gardner next year.
And I watched every game this year. One game can be the difference in seeing a player develop. I will not throw a bone to Gardner when he played one good game against a rival. Gardner is inaccurate and makes bad decisions and holds on to the ball far too long. And age has nothing to do with a point and I'm neither. But it's funny that you point Morris lose when the defense didn't give him a chance to win.
The Notre Dame game? Minnesota? Indiana? Also, both Gardner and Morris will have a hard time appearing successful when there is absolutely no threat from the run game. This is another reason we need Gardner to start, he actually adds the threat of possibly running the ball for positive yardage. Also, Gardner had more yards passing this season than any other Michigan QB save for Navarre in 2003. With Al Borges as his coordinator.
Our offensive gameplanning for most of the year was poor to average, something completely out of Gardner's control. Can you count how many times this year Gardner miraculously pulled a long run for a first down or improvised his way for a TD, largely saving our bacon? I'm not blaming Morris for the loss whatsoever, but we only scored one TD and that was after the game was decided. Like I said, he had an above average game, but if you think that performance justifies benching Gardner, you're crazy.
Say. he did play well against nd Indiana and Minnesota and yes he can run. I just think Morris fits this offense better. And I'm not saying bench him, I honestly think if it will be an open competition, which they preach, I think rMorris could very well win the job. And if you do get a run game going by chance I think Morris doesn't seem to panic as much and goes through his reads quicker but I can only go by one game. No I'm not saying bench Gardner at all I want him to earn the job. I don't want it given to him because he is a senior.
I just don't get the doom and gloom. The future is bright in my opinion and a coaching change would stunt our growth yet again. Next year will be my basis for evaluation on the coaching staff as it should be for most level headed fans.
We just lost 5 of 6 games. We just regressed again year over year. Our defensive genius got torched yet again. And, you think the future is bright?
Why do you think next year will be any better? Because our team is one year older? Gonna take more than that to do the trick.
For some reason age is a big deal to some people. Ironically the last 2 Heisman winners have been freshman and Auburn ran all over real teams with a young O line this year.
You're singling out exceptions. They were also redshirt freshman and quarterbacks who were surrounded with weapons and veteran offensive lines and players on both sides of the ball.
It has also been well documented (even on the front page of this site) that oline experience is extremely valuable and correlates to the success of the oline. Auburn is the most exceptiony exception you could have made. Is not the norm good sir.
When 2014 comes and goes and we're still getting rolled by MSU and OSU, what will the excuse be?
It's one thing to have a few Rs Freshmen and Sophomores peppered in and being good. In our case they not only start but are our depth. How some fail to realize that is not ideal is beyond me. This year we will finally be where a normal young talented top tier team should be. Anyone want to argue this?
why defense sucked so much with a lot of 2nd and 3rd year players and a few 4th year players? And please do not tell me that our DL was light. They were no lighter than KSU. It is coaching, something that we do not have.
Exactly how I feel. I agree with this 100%. Most fans seem to think winning immediately with an immense amount of underclassman is the normal path to success for some reason.
Completely agree. The lack of patience is too common in our society.
"Trust in the process" - the underclassman who has the number 1 ranked veteran help in the country at the moment
But expected to see improvement. Look at KSU. They started 2-4 lost to a non-BSC team, but they steadily improved. Look at MSU's offense. Their QB was terrible at the beginning and now is a 2nd BIG selection. I would have been OK if we started 2-5, but finished 5-1. Then there would be hope for next year. I think we are going to be worse next year. This is a below average coaching staff and this is going to be an average team next year as well.
"Holy Crap, they hired Mike Debord!!"
AppSt changed everything. There is no denying it.
App State was a symptom.
Good thing we get to play them in 2014 to reverse the curse!
App State was the first big leak to be sprung. It continued to erode from there but we were about to trend down whether we won that game or not. Oregon was still going to murder us
My hope after RR was Harbough and after we missed out on him, I knew it we would be on for a long ride again until we start winning again..and here we are at year 3 with Hoke...
We were 11-2 with a Sugar Bowl win in Hoke's first year. That's about as short as you can get.
Awesome, another "Guess what guys, we're actually not good at football right now" post.
Position coach? Hoke sucks as a dline coach
If you had told Alabama 7 years ago they'd be perennial contenders who won three titles and lead the SEC to an unprecedented national championship streak - while in the midst of a five game losing streak to Auburn and while in the midst of another coaching search - well I think they'd be as shocked as I would've been if you told me what the next seven years held for us.
Position coach? Hoke sucks as a dline coach
i just think of brian's "we are nd"post in the wake of hoke's hiring and think, damn, this brian guy was on to something!
If you had told me seven years ago, that we would be this bad in 2013 I would probably have punched you in the face. This s*** is depressing
Well 14 years ago (on the eve of 2000) I was thoroughly convinced that Michigan was going to find itself behind the times, and petrified of slipping into mediocrity because of it.
I didn't yet know that Brady and co. would be able to stand up to Alabama. I was writing emails (an early form of blogging) between fraternity brothers to voice concerns that the SEC was rampantly cheating, that the NCAA was powerless to stop it, and that the northern powers needed to take drastic action, no matter how strong they looked (Penn State, Michigan, and Ohio State were all national title contenders, MSU was very strong at the end of Saban's reign, Wisconsin kept going to Rose Bowls anyway, and even Purdue (had Drew Brees) and Illinois (beat us) and Northwestern ('95 and '96 were in recent memory) and Minnesota (beat PSU that year) were capable of beating just about anybody). Jesus even that new guy at Iowa seemed to know what he's doing, and the only hopeless cause in the conference, Indiana, had Randle El to make up for it.
I felt that Michigan's offensive strategy was wasting its talent, and that the NFL factory strategy wasn't a very good fit for a school hampered by caring about academics. I feared Carr would retire soon since he was already pretty old, and that there were no longer any obvious successors.
Seven years ago I would have told you I would marry my then gf, have kids and a house by now and probably would have thought I'd still be living in Michigan. None of those things happened either. And I'm fine with it. You never know what is going to happen, and that's what makes life and sports so great.
Your sanity has no place in this discussion.
Honestly, I wouldn't have believed it like a lot of other folks... And I don't see any sign of it getting any better. This staff has shown no sign of any significant player development and have not proven that they can make significant adjustments during games. I don't think I said one positive thing that wasn't about Shane during the game last night.
"I guess it's our turn to have a down period, just like every other major historical college football power."
So when is it osu's turn? You know, the program we're supposed to be competing with? Oh, they have been smart with their head coaching hires and we haven't.
|1987||6–4–1||4–4 Big Ten||5th||Earle Bruce||Win|
|1988||4–6–1||2–5–1 Big Ten||T–7th||John Cooper||Loss|
|1989||8–4||6–2 Big Ten||T–3rd||L Hall of Fame||24||John Cooper||Loss|
|1990||7–4–1||5–2–1 Big Ten||5th||L Liberty||John Cooper||Loss|
|1991||8–4||5–3 Big Ten||T–3rd||L Hall of Fame||John Cooper||Loss|
|1992||8–3–1||5–2–1 Big Ten||2nd||L Citrus||18||18||John Cooper||Tie|
Looks pretty similar, hmm? Our 6-year record: 41-34. Ohio's 6-year record: 41-25-4.
Wins in The Game during the stretch: 1
We at least have a top 10 finish (#9 coaches poll, 2011) in our stretch.
And before you go saying that 1987-1992 was a long time ago, recall that we had a 40-year stretch of non-losing seasons and would've been 40 straight bowl games were it not for the B1G "Rose Bowl or No Bowl" rule.
I wouldn't have wasted over 300 hours watching shitty football, including 9 trips halfway across the fucking country to AA.
Early 2000s is when I really got into Michigan football and I definitely wouldn't have thought this was going to happen. I was so young and used to seeing Michigan win all the time and it's been mostly downhlll from there, save 2011.
One of those OSU victories was vacated, I'll have you know!
/continues panicking and screaming
Looking back at the end of '06, when Carr reportedly told Martin he wanted to retire after that season but was talked out of it, Martin should have had a short list of people ready to go and not assumed he could get anyone he wanted. His belief that Ferentz would come here (vetoed by Mary Sue) gave him a false sense of security.
I think the coaching search debacle at the end of 2007 season still impacts this program today. ND went through the same stuff beginning with the botched George O'Leary hiring in 2002, which led them to Ty and Big Charley. They finally have a pretty good (but not great) coach in Kelly.
My only hope right now is that the PUBLIC Brandon isn't the same guy talking with Brady privately. I mean 15-11 over the last two seasons?
I view Hoke in a similar, but more visible place, that Beilein was in during the 2010-11 season when we were started 1-6 in the B1G and UM traveled to MSU. That win was the turning point in his program and led to 3 darn good seasons.
Hoke's turning point next year needs to be at MSU as well. Saturday October 25th in E.L. is his chance to have his Beilein moment and put a dagger into this season.
Jeez, except Bill Martin didn't think AD was his most important job,,even when he was AD. Dude was still running First Martin, Casey's and Bank of Ann Arbor when he was AD. Plus, sailing, flying and hanging out at the family compound in the UP and lots of other travel. He was pretty checked out.
Brandon has no problems telling coaches that they need to make the playoffs or they are fired. He'll, two years ago he put so much pressure on the woman's BBall coach, he quit even though he made the playoffs! He went back to some tiny Wisconsin school cause he couldn't take the pressure. That said, Brandon has too much of his reputation wrapped up in Hoke.
were Kevin Borseth's demon
Out of all of it, the 1-6 against Ohio and the 2-5 against MSU are the most painful things to bare. Ohio certifiably owns the rivalry now, so much so that it has lessened the relavance of that rivalry. That's bad enough, but what's just as bad is all the damn MSU fans around the state right now, it's insufferable.
I would have said, "we should get one of them run and gun style coaches, really open things up."
I can take that. What I can't take is an offensive minded coach forcing a BS defense (3-3-5) on a coach who has never ran it.
I wouldn't have been that surprised. The team was scuttling a bit under Carr, and when you throw in two transitions that is about the outcome you'd expect. And just for reference, before this year Auburn was 58 and 32 in the past 4 seasons, buttressed immensely by going 14-0 in 2010. The era of dominant football teams season-over-season are probably over, but I expect 7-6 to be the nadir of the Hoke era.
Jesus Christ people step away from the ledge.
So I can have room out there
Too late I've already jumped
Lumping the RichRod disaster in with the Hoke years to make the state of the program look worse. I love MGoBlog.
and is regressing against much easier schedules than Rodriguez played against. In fact, nearly all of Hoke's success came from Denard, a Rich Rod player. He was 17-4 with Denard at the helm. Then Denard got hurt and he's gone 10-9.
That's crazy. It's going to be tough to be a fan until things turn around. Now, how do you turn this future forcastter into a lotto number predictor?
Now's a good time to review Michigan football predictions from The Borat Files:
It's sad to see so much wasted talent come an go
Maybe Les Miles needs to go.
I dont see why next year will be any different. We have a super-soft team, and I truly don't see why next year will be better. After 3 years, our offense has absolutely ZERO identity. The defense has played f*cking horrifically, and our coaches seemingly find ways to muzzle young talent. The worst thing.... I honestly havent seen any players get substantially better outside of maybe Desmond Morgan and Frank Clark (sometimes?)....It's absolutely embarassing.
I have no confidence next season. Why should we? Tell me a bright spot on this team the defense got worse and the offense never developed what us there to look forward to?
Last year and it looks like they did just fine this year.
Probably because they fired the dipshit Chizik and hired the guy that was an even bigger part of their national title than Cam Newtonm
I miss bo.
I don't think he could save this team times have changed so much since he was coaching
Some of the younger posters here have been questioning our reverence to Bo.
At first, I was shocked, but next year will be the 25th season after Bo.
In his 21 seasons, we only had one injury-riddled 1984 season like this one.
How were we injury riddled this season?? Offensively noone got injured from Sept 1-nov 30. U can't use injuries as an excuse for the poor offensive development
People that didn't see it couldn't understand the security the program had while Bo was coach. Ten wins a year was the standard. I was a kid growing up in the heart of Ann Arbor and my Saturday's during the fall were unforgettable.
I look at it this way:
We have a marketing guy as AD. He's going to do what likes to do best, namely, use marketing techniques to build a brand.
For a guy like that, the affable and magnetic Brady Hoke is an excellent choice as the face of the program. His recruiting ability adds sizzle to the marketing possibilities.
I don't know whether Brandon is a "product" guy, or not. I know that he tried to make small improvements to the pizza product, but it still was pretty awful, yet he seemed quite content with that. According to his Blog, he's very content with the trajectory of the Michigan coaching staff, despite the evidence of the product on the field.
Our eyeballs didn't lie last night. We all realized that we were not seeing the savior of Michigan Football in Brady Hoke, even if we like him very much as a person (as I do).
It reminds me of GM not so many years ago. I was asked to create a music identity for a GM brand, Buick. The then-marketing director (who was the nicest guy) said to me at a meeting around a large conference table, "We want Buick to go back to being the brand that doctors drive." There was much agreement and head-nodding among his minions. "We want people to aspire to drive a Buick, and the music has to say that."
As Brady Hoke would say, "Weeeeeeelllllll..."
I said, "You know that they're been driving Mercedes, BMW, and Lexus for the last 40 years, and they know the difference, right?"
Ten faces turned and glared at me in unison across the table. A Marketing Department hell-bent on self-delusion does not appreciate the intrusion of truth or reality.
GM has changed the marketing director of that brand, and all of its brands. It has been through a bankruptcy. There has been a bit more concentration on actual product, and the company is doing better. Oh, they still engage in marketing, and always will, but there is at least a glimmer of reality poking through in the form of better product as of late.
Michigan Football doesn't need better marketing. It needs better product on the field. Better results. That is what builds a football brand, not guys flying in or out of the stadium in jet packs.
I have no faith in so-called marketing gurus like Dave Brandon. Product sells football, not promises. Not image. Product and tradition fill that stadium.
So if you had said to me, "Dave Brandon from Domino's is going to be the AD," I'd have said, "We're going to be in trouble on the field." And I'd have been right.
I'll give you the affable, but I would never put "magnetic" and "Brady Hoke" together in the same sentence, except as an illustration of opposites.
This doesn't mean that Hoke can't have a very successful career here, but he's as magnetic as a lukewarm bowl of plain oatmeal.
He seems to attract a lot of recruits, and attracts lots of friends. Everyone I know that has met him has wonderfully complimentary things to say.
That's why I used that word. But, heck, you may be right.
and charismatic personality, such as Schembechler or Bryant or Jimmy Johnson. It's absolutely true that Hoke is a warm, affable person who has a significant ability to connect with people on a personal level. That's a big factor in his recruiting prowess, but sometimes I wonder if that's actually a handicap as a head coach.
Ultimately, magnetism or charisma, however it's defined is not a prerequisite for high-level success, since Nick Saban has the charisma of a fence post.
That's a fantastic story.
That was a good read.
...the one thing every good marketer knows is that the most important thing you need to build a brand is a quality product (or, more accurately, a perception of quality).
And DB's head coaches throughout the dept. know that if they don't get to a point where they're in the hunt for B1G titles almost every year, they're gone.
Downhill since Bo died the day before the '06 Ohio game.
Our basketball team was in the national title game, the big chill, Hunwick, under the lights, Denard Robinson - all of that has been pretty unexpected too, and in a positive way.
Other unexpected negatives: uniformzzzz, Special K
What happened to Those who stay will be champions? How did we fall so far away people including me complained about Lloyd but hell even he had his ups after a disappointing season. 1996, 2001, 2005 were disappointments but u always had the feeln that we'd bounce back I don't have that feeling anymore. Even those disappointing seasons still had some good wins against ranked teams. How many ranked teams have we beaten in the last 6 years??
We could see it coming 7 years ago. Carr was not recruiting anybody and his teams were horrible. Played the most boring football ever. Then he sabatoged Rodriguez and we know what happened from there. Brandon though he needed a Michigan man but there were none avail so he hired Hoke.
Just left the barbershop, my barber is a Michigan fan also and in the middle of my haircut I say; I'm sick of being a laughing stock when is this going to change. He went into how all we need is a receiver or two to step up next year things will get better but I fear it's much deeper than that. Bottom line is this: if we go into next season with the same coaching staff things will only get worse. And what really pisses me off about the state of affairs when it comes to our football team is I know sparty and ohio are just tickled pink by our misfortune.
Would've gone to grad school somewhere else
This is michigan
I would have said, "wow, yiu mean instead of trying to get back on an even footing with osu we now have slightly worse records and are still losing to them in heartbreaking ways?"
Bama was in bad shape then too. They just came off of probation and missed out on coach Rich Rod who turned them down for a better job. Funny what a difference a few years can make.
Lloyd Carr's team made 4 appearances at the Rose Bowl during his tenure. Their last appearance was in 2007. How long will it take for Michigan to return to the Rose Bowl?
Carr had one great team and some good teams and a few nice bowl wins but largely we were 8-4 and 9-3. Fans were in uproar over his porous defenses at the end. Made it to Rose Bowls but embarrassed against USC twice if I recall and throttled by Tenn in the Citrus. It's been the exception vs rule that we have had truly great national contending teams since the 70's and Harbaugh teams of mid 80s. Of course the Big 10 was weaker in the 70s than now.
Fire Hoke? Borges, et al? Hire hot-coach-of-the-moment, and go through yet another transition period, only to find that hot-coach-of-the-moment isn't the second coming of Bo... wash, rinse, repeat ... Congrats, we're Notre Dame!
yup. 4 of the worst years in michigan history have been in the last seven, i'd say. 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013. 2013 might have been the worst, all things considered. im a little nuts but i thought we'd be undefeated going against osu.
i want to see this regime succeed. i wish the previous regime hadnt been given the short end (imo). firing people is not a cure all, unless we're bringing in saban or harbaugh (we're not).
to play devil's advocate, maybe this was just a bad football team this year and not indicative of the coach's ability. maybe akron and uconn were fair representations of who this team is. maybe the coaches did well just to get a winning record out of this team. maybe the coaches have the foundations for a successful program, but couldnt overcome the short term mistakes of the last guy (especially an awful 2010 recruiting class).
im pissed at hoke and co too. but i want winnnig football again. it can happen with them. i dont agree with that last paragraph entirely (the psu loss was their fault. they overreacted to our best playmaker turning the ball over), but i think people are just (rightfully) pissed right now.
the team less excited about the bowl game is usually the one that loses. last ngiht was fairly predictable.
To be honest, I thought as far back as 10 years ago, during the 2003 season that Michigan was on the verge of being a mediocre program. There were brief glimpes of hope (almost getting to the National Championship in 2006, hiring Rich Rodriguez before we knew it wasn't going to work). However overall, none of this is the least bit surprising to me.
But right after the game. . . reeling from the loss of the game and of Bo. I would have agreed with you this was coming.
I often get mocked on this board about the significance of losing Bo. He dominated the culture of the program the moment he set foot on campus. And when he died the cult of personality went with him. We were no longer a united front, Lloyd lost his edge (and four games in a row including App state.) We had the bungled coaching search. The destructive infighting and so on and so forth. History is riddled examples, with governments, with corporations, with football teams, any organization that was led by a domineering force who dictated the culture would crumble after that force left the scent. . . how many times have you heard this team is trying to find an identity? Our identity died with Bo. We always harken back to "those who stay." but those are just empty words now. Not until someone can come in and fill the void and create a culture that everyone will buy into. Perhaps that's why everyone wants Harbaugh to be here so badly. He can coach obviously, but he has the connection with Bo that the old timers would want and he has the character to define a culture and identity that can lead Michigan back to greatness again.
I have real concerns about the football team. Other sports in the athletic department are flourishing and facility improvement has been wonderful. But the bottom line is that football is king at Michigan. For two years I have been feeling the football team has been ill prepared. It appears to me that we are getting decent players but they aren't playing to their potential. That falls squarely on the coaching staff. I don't want to hear about young teams this and young team that. There are plenty of other young teams and many teams with players that are not as talented (by ratings) as Michigan is. It starts with coaching. Hoke recruits very well but if this staff can't coach then it's not going to work. No assistant coach is guaranteed a job at this point and that includes both coordinators. If Hoke can't fix the disconnect that is going on with this team then he has to go also. The disconnect is this team being unprepared to play. Lack of effort, penalties, line play and anything else you can come up with. We as fans are being told to stay supportive of these 19 to 23 year old young men. I agree in part. But when I have to pay the heavy price for 4 seats and the others fees then I expect to see a decent product. I'm not upset at the student athlete as much as I am upset at the AD and the coaching staff. Get it fixed soon or Michigan will turn into an all so ran. Forget about the Michigan Man ideals. Bo wasn't a Michigan Man. He created the Michigan Man thing. It's time to stop yakking Michigan Man and time to start getting a staff together that will coach these kids up and make them better than they think they can be. The result will be football wins. Then I'll be happy.
Makes me sick, motherfucker, how far we done fell.
I would say they are lucky they have fans like me and others here who are wolverines for life and plan to stick it out. There will be better seasons and I look forward to them.
I wasn't surprised to see the Rose Bowl loss to USC, but even I was flabbergasted at how badly Michigan played. I just thought that the program would continue its pattern: have great potential and preseason top ten ranking but find a way to lose 3 or 4 games, depending on the strength of the bowl opponent.
The Appy State game was bad, but the Oregon debacle was the worst indication that MIchigan couldn't defend elite teams, especially those that run spread offenses. They are still having trouble, unless giving up 42 points to Ohio constitutes a "good" performance.
I am looking forward to the next two years, when we will truly see what Hoke and Co. are capable of doing.
I think the brand has been diminished, certainly in the eyes of many key recruits. We may be relegated to middle-of-the-pack status for years to come.
The luster has worn off the coaching staff, too. Hoke, Mattison and Borges had tremendous momentum and gravitas coming in, but I think the staff is showing signs of the Peter Principle and recruits are questioning the direction of the program.
Sadly, I objectively see the trend toward mediocrity continuing for the foreseeable future.