Did Greg Shiano turn us down last time? My memory is a little fuzzy.
a vitally important recap of all the dumb tweets sent during the Harbaugh coaching search
Did Greg Shiano turn us down last time? My memory is a little fuzzy.
Millen or Marinelli.
But in all seriousness Pat Fitzgerald. He's a defensive minded Guy who runs the spread offense
A) Jim Harbaugh
B) Drew Sharp
C) Michael Rosenberg
D) Lynn Henning
E) Ron English
thought it was Lynne Henning...
Just to screw with ND
What I saw today was an experienced team playing an inexperienced team at home. Dropped passes, silly fumbles, poor special teams. It's painful to watch, but all young teams go through this. I expect to see a big jump next season, and I think we will. Our defense can not get any younger and our kicking can not get any worse. Most people had us pegged around 7-5 anyway.
I think we were all saying that EXACT same thing at this time last year
Erm, not really. Last year people were pissed because we were 5-7 and didn't meet expectations.
This year, people are pissed because.......we went 7-5 and met expectations.
Huh, how bout that. Makes one wonder if some people just enjoy being pissed.
It's not that we lost, its how we lost that has people pissed off. We were never threatening to win any of the games we lost. We got pantsed in every one of those five losses.
....shot themselves in the foot in every single one of them except maybe Wisky. If our offense had executed with more discipline(which comes with age and experience), we would have been in every single one of those games, even with the defense not playing well.
I might just copy this so I can paste it in wherever it's relevant:
Most people predicted 7 wins. If they thought those other games were all supposed to be tossups, they should have predicted 9-10 wins. I didn't see anyone predicting that. We won the close games this year, and that was an improvement over last year.
And eked by some crap teams in our wins. The difference between 7-5 and 5-7, or even 4-8, was a hair's breadth. The difference between this year and last year amounted to winning a coin flip game against Illinois at home, Purdue's offense imploding because of injuries (we beat them because they got worse, not because we got better), and Notre Dame's quarterback getting concussed.
I'm so sick of the "7-5, we met expectations" meme, as though only the record in a vacuum matters. Not all 7-5's are created equal.
Don't forget UMass and indiana. This was a year where we could have easily had 3 or 4 more losses. We got lucky this year where we were unlucky last year. We won every coinflip game.
But conversely, we were not close on a single game against an upper tier Big Ten team. We were blown out in all of them.
We have made almost no real improvement. Our "improvement" is an illusion based on a couple of lucky breaks.
This team has seen a lot of lucky breaks? It still feels like we have been getting the short end of the stick in the luck department. How many times have we seen teams fumble and have the ball bounce right back to them? How many times has our defense tipped passes only to see a different receiver catch them? It seems like other teams get the benefit of fluky plays (and poor officiating) more than we do.
The fact that a young team was able to win the close games does say something about what we will be capable of when we gain more experience. To gain two more wins with a team that is younger than all of our competition at nearly every position does speak well of the team going forward.
As has been pointed out repeatedly, the teams that beat us handily are the most experienced teams in the league. OSU loses 24 seniors this year, and about half of those are starters. MSU loses about 4-5 starters on each side of the ball, and so does Iowa. Wisconsin has an extraordinary number of seniors this year. What this means is that we will progress towards the mean in terms of player experience, while our top competition will regress towards the mean. This should help us a lot as well.
Most reasonable post I've read all day. Spot on and plus 1.
There shouldn't be a Plan B. If Brandon wants to make a change the only one that will appease the so-called traditionalists would be Harbaugh.
If we can't get Harbaugh, I'd take another year of Rich Rod easily. Taking a shot in the dark with Dan Mullen or some other spread coach would antagonize both people who want to give RR another year AND folks who want a return to a Michigan Man coaching. Give him another year, or M Go Harbaugh
They are going to go to a rotating "belligerent fan of the week" plan. The loudest, most obnoxious whiner will get to coach the program for a week and show everyone how much "better" he can do than the current coach.
Harbaugh IS Plan B.
Ditka doesn't allow people to make him a plan B.
Yeah this offense is awsome...lets see:
17 vs. MSU
30 vs. Iowa in junk time
30 vs. PSU in junk time
28 vs. Wisky in junk time
7 vs. OSU (you have had three years to build an offense and all you could manage is 7 points? Bye Bye Rich)
Since Michigan has a space program and the ability to launch rockets now I saw we just nuke the whole Big Ten from orbit.....thats MY plan B
........The point totals may not be much, but other than tOSU today, our offense put up quite a few yards. They also quite a few yards after the first quarter today.
If we hadn't shot ourselves in the foot so many times against all of those teams, the points would be much higher.
This is where the detractors only see the scores and say we got thumped, while the RR supporters look at the potential and see where we could be in the future.
that the second half is "junk time"? I think this insight would change the outcome of many games if we just stopped at halftime. Have you considered notifying the Commissioners? In fact, why don't you get to that right away.
"Junk Time" refers to when other teams are up by 20+ on your team and start to take their foot off the gas both on offense and defense.
If not Harbaugh then RR. If not either Harbaugh or RR then someone who will keep the spread. There's no-one other than Harbaugh who's worth the pain of two years running a power-offense with Denard/Roundree/Vincent Smith.
Plan B: Famer Fran
Plan C: Bob Green
I think that was a clip of JoePas younger years when dementia was just setting in.
With that said, it might be hard to get Coach Klein. He isn't a lock up. What if he says no?! What would it take to get him?
He's worn out his time at Georgia and is in need of a change of scenery.
We need someone who will bring a clear, schematic advantage to the college game.
Bud Foster is a guy who has thought about making the leap to a HC gig but hasn't yet. I think he may be ready.
Remember when they thought they would get Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops because "they're Notre Dame"
A lot of the names thrown around here have pretty good gigs right where they are. Many of the names have access to the BCS right where they are at if they win.
Here's a flyer...Jim Mora Jr. He's not busy right now.
urban meyer wasn't an option or a candidate despite his mouth
stoops would have been the HC had ND given into his academic stipulations
I don't remember all the names that were serious candidates at ND but Edsall was there
is keeping RR with a new defensive coordinator. It's the only move that makes any sense, and the move that would get us the most wins for next year. If we get harbaugh, don't expect more than 6 wins, with RR is probably 8. But Harbaugh is plan A for the long term fit.
If a change is made, the precedent for UM only giving a coach, at most, 3 years has been made. How many coaches, especially the ones in decent to good situations where they are, would accept the job knowing they have 3 years to make the fanbase happy?
Think of ND. After Holtz, Davies had 5 years, Willingham had 3, Weiss somehow finagled 5 years out of them, and now their fanbase, based on a 6-5 record at this point, is already calling for Kelly to be fired. Do we want to become like ND? Hell No, I don't!
Give RR another year, with or without Gerg. If UM is the same, or worse, then fire him. But IMO, UM with RR next year will win at least 9-10 games and be right back on or near the top of the B10. As well, we will be a consistently dominant force in the B10.
You're saying not to keep coaches around 5 years?
going to bcs bowl games 2 years in a row is a good way to "finagle" more years onto your coaching job
ND fans are always complaining, didn't hear any of it last night though. Weis's last 3 years at ND and RR's 3 years at UM are very similar, and the last 3 years are what ended Weis's career at ND.
Ive finally arrived at this conclusion. Rich Rod is not a good head coach. He is a great OC but I just dont see the qualities that make him a good Head Coach. Ive seen people on here defend him by saying the D and Special teams are not his fault and that he has nothing to do with those. I say bullshit. He is the head coach, he has everything to do with everything.
My only fear is that we dont land our #1 target again, and look desperate again.
Rodriguez had no track record of being successful as a head coach and we shouldn't have hired him. I hope this next time we scour the nation for a proven winner that can build a strong program that continues to succeed after he leaves. Maybe we should consider someone from another Big 6 conference that has won repeated conference titles and won multiple bowl games so we know they're good at gameplanning. Someone who's gained a reputation nationally for being a successful coach. The kind of guy that Bo would have recognized as an up an coming talent. We really screwed the pooch this time but next time we'll get someone with a proven track record of success...
We find out through channels of contact whether we can get Harbaugh, and get the deal in place. If it falls through, keep Rich.
That's the about the only beauty of this built-in dead time in FBS.
Let's make it happen and get our program back. Right now, we're a running joke. We need serious surgery and aggressive action. Rich doesn't get it and honestly looks over his head.
Still he is our second best choice in this situation.
if not Harbaugh then definitely Dan Mullen. Just ask Florida fans why they think they are not as good as they used to be.