I wish him the best. I hope he does well.
...but he doesn't play for Michigan and he didn't commit to play for Michigan, therefore - MOVING ON.
I wish him the best. I hope he does well.
...but he doesn't play for Michigan and he didn't commit to play for Michigan, therefore - MOVING ON.
Do you think this will have any effect on Diamond's decision since that will be one less OT on the depth chart?
Good luck to Josh Garnett, family is important.
Garnett projects more to offensive guard, so I don't think it affects Diamond much.
You were quicker. I like how rivals projects him at OG, but then says that he reminds them most of Michael Oher.
Me too I'm fat and far past my playing days and that's what I can put up right now and I'm like 90 pounds lighter than him.
So you used a Nautilus machine and were on steroids...but you're disappointed that a (hopefully) clean kid who's 6'5" or 6'6" with long arms can't bench as much as you did?
As most of us probably know, it's tougher for people with long arms to build bulk/strength in their upper bodies. It's a longer process and one of the reasons why linemen get better with age and maturity. He has plenty of time to build up his bench press, and bench press is an overrated exercise, anyway, because it's not really functional strength that's being measured.
I'm not making the argument that 270 is a good bench press, and I've heard elsewhere that his commitment in the weight room is in question. But it's just kind of odd to me that someone who was using 'roids and a Nautilus machine is ragging on a high school kid for his weightlifting capabilities...
I'm not sure what "chemically enhanced" means other than 'roids...unless you mean something like HGH, which is essentially the same thing. Still, you were chemically enhanced and I'm assuming/hoping he's not, so we're kind of comparing apples and oranges.
I know the Nautilus machines don't lift the weight for the lifter, but they help. If they weren't advantageous, people wouldn't use them. And if you didn't have it, the implication was that you wouldn't have been able to bench 300 lbs.
Yes, the bench press has been the measure of upper body strength for a long time. The world used to be flat, too.
One time I ran faster than Denard Robinson. Except I was in a car. And the car was going downhill.
Not Aqua, but the general thoughts from the same folks that said Garnett to Stanford (aka the "insiders") is YES. This definitely helps. And with Kozan too, just not as much.
The biggest reason I wanted Garnett was that he is both athletic and intelligent, which is an often overlooked ability (SEC). Although we didn't get him I wish him luck at Stanford. He could have done much worse.
Hope his position coach leaves so he can reconsider...but in seriousness, this sucks. Good luck to him and hope he has a successful career on the field and in the classroom
Pretty much how Webb called it on the radio yesterday morning . He said that under the presumed criteria that Michigan would be the school of choice. If he ends up at Stanford than distance was more of a factor than he was letting on.
West Coast guy stayed on west coast, which is understandable. Thanks for following up Aquaman, you are a great and classy source of recruiting information!
Now, how about those guys that are still interested in Michigan????
As much as I would have liked to get Garnett to Ann Arbor, it seems like we're pretty solid at the guard positions for a few years. I've always been high on Chris Barnett, and he has earned solid reviews from his freshman season. I also think Kyle Kalis projects to guard, and he's obviously an elite-level recruit. Garnett would give us options and flexibility, but he probably won't make or break the class.
I think you mean Chris Bryant. Good to hear he played well in practice this year, I hadn't heard much about him.
Duh. Stupid me. I meant Chris Bryant.
Besides aren't they buds (Diamond and Bryant), I thought they both played on the same line at Simeon HS in IL? Then they will enjoy playing the next few years alongside each other.
Yeah, they were linemates at Simeon.
You provide solid information Magnus, so I am not even going to bust your balls about you confusing our former fat TE for our current offensive guard.
Chris Bryant...for those confused.
And this is right, this whole class wasn't going to play together anyway...some guys from previous years, just like guys from the next class will play.
Great insight Mangus.
Edit: I obviously changed what I wrote because by the time I hit submit, I was the third jackass to correct him on Bryant.
you mean Chris Bryant not Barnett. I agree with you 100% we really need OTs and a center more than another guard.
Nope. I meant Chris Barnett. He's coming back to play offensive guard. Haven't you heard?
I agree. Garnett is a really good prospect, but college football teams aren't made or broken by a single recruit at offensive guard. If we had put all of our eggs into one QB basket and missed, that could have been trouble, but there are more important positions on the field than OG and positions where the correlation between star rating and college performance is much higher.
Can't fault the kid for wanting to stay near home. Best of luck to Josh. I hope he murders Pac-12 D-linemen for the next four years.
I wish him the best at Stanford. I would much rather have him commit there than have him come to Michigan and transfer there anyway because he's homesick. Time to move on to the next guy.
I wish I didn't follow him on Twitter, and thats my own fault for picking up on a vibe he was committing to Michigan. I don't blame him on wanting to stay closer to home. If that is his only reason that is a good enough reason for me. I can't say I will be rooting for the guy because to be honest, hes not at Michigan. I won't root against him, but I have never been interested in how a recruit does after he doesn't pick Michigan unless he goes to a rival and I want him to break his leg (Terrel Pryor).
This eighteen-year old's life-changing decisions are adversely affecting the fortunes of the team I follow in an indirect way! How DARE he??!!
Honestly it's pretty idiotic to be upset with the kid over this choice. It'd be one thing if it were Columbus or -gasp- East Lansing, but he's going to a pretty good football team right now with an exceptional community of learning and support. And all along we knew how interested he was in an elite education, so congratulations.
If there's any school on the West Coast that we shouldn't feel bad about losing a good kid to, Stanford is certainly it. Good luck, Josh.
Really wanted this kid. Yeah, he projected at Guard, which we are probably ok at, but still this was an elite recruit, smart and personable. Wish him the best.
I am glad you proceeded with your interview (even if informal) and posted this even thought JG chose to go to Stanford. The fact that he also made himself available to you also shows his level of maturity. To me, this kid did everything the proper way, and in the end made a selfless decision so his family could see him play more often. If my son is fortunate enough to have the opportunity Josh had, I hope he handles it with half the grace Josh has.
Now, moving on...
If Stanford is able to land Kyle Murphy and Aziz Shittu, Shaw put together a really nice class in his first go-round at the helm.
But this need to rehab his image seems to be getting overly excessive. He's a recruit who loved another school more than us. Not the first, not the last. A lot of them are nice guys, and a lot of them choose schools a lot more objectionable than Stanford. But the fact of the matter is in a week no one on these boards is ever going to care about Garnett or what he does again, because he doesn't play for Michigan, and likely will never play against Michigan. I'm not sure he needs a pat on the back from the base he just rejected. Bye.
He made an important, difficult decision and did what he thought was best for himself. For us the fan base to show we understand and to wish him well only reflects that much better on us.
This a a fan blog board. It hardly reflects on anything other than to other super intense fan boards. No one is writing any columns in west coast newspapers saying "wow, isn't Michigan handling this kid going elsewhere classy?" Likewise, no one is wishing him ill will. He reject the school, the football team, and all those affliated with it, because another place was a better fit and choice for him (duh, other than dirty schools, is there any other reason a guy picks a school? Does he pick one that's not what he thinks is the best fit for him?). That is his right. But this need to over and over again make him feel good because he didn't come here isn't only going kinda overboard, but it's also completely fake. The amount of people who will actually be "rooting for him" are about on the level of those who actually, truly hope "he blows an ACL" or whatever. Practically none. Maybe guys like Aquaman who have actually talked to him, but the rest of us won't give him a second thought after signing day.
Just like he won't ever give Michigan a second thought. As it should be. People can say false platitudes, and neg posts because it makes them feel better about themselves, but they're just putting up disingenuous false faces for the public. Because come September, no one is going to be posting "how is Garnett doing threads?" (That would only happen if he committed to Arizona). I'm just not sure what makes this guy any different than the literally hundreds of guys we offer every year who choose to go someplace else, because it's a better fit for them. Good for each of them. But don't expect every fan base to say "Good luck", then "oh, it's ok he told our other recruits something different", then "oh, he had his reasons" and then "oh, good luck" again.
People are going overboard, and sounding like they got dumped by their girlfriend, and are trying way too hard to show it doesn't hurt. Great, good luck, Stanford's a great school and program. But if you don't want to come to Michigan, you're off my radar, and we'll worry about who wants to play for Michigan. Don't expect a parting gift.
There's no point in "wishing him well". It's silly to wish him harm, but we don't need to be a bunch of gracious grand-standers.
He chose not to go here. He's irrelevant, to me, unless we play him in the future or my Lions draft him. Out of sight, out of mind.
I salute you, mr. garnett. Cherish your time at Stanford, it'll go faster than you think.
wrong choice. Thats the kinda kids we need. Good, solid, mature individuals. Ones that are half way there, and we can bring them full circle, and mold them into amazing people. We'll be fine, and im happy our class is as kickass as it is. I follow the kid on twitter and while im still very commited he made the wrong choice solely on football reasons (they have no qb and arent going to be near as prosperous as they have been).. the kid is out of luck! (cheesy neg me whatever haha).. All in all a good dude, and when he said earlier his sister would pick up the hat for him (no hats this time) i kinda knew he would stay close to home.
Moving on.. making room... still kicking ass!
And then chooses Stanford? Okay, buddy, whatever you say.
Nice and short, good sarcasm worked in.
That's quality posting right there.
Damn, more fuel for DB's misguided mascot obsession.
The problem is he chose the right school for him for the right reasons. We can't help our proximitiy to the kid's parents. That sort of class and decision making makes me want the kid even more. Oh well...Kalis will still cause blood to flow from ohio linbackers. Best of luck to young Mr. Garnett. Maybe our med school will get him someday.
Good Luck!!! You have a great school to help you in life after football. I never get that upset when a kid looks to his future. Best to your family.
Bummer we didn't get him....and I thought getting my car stolen would be the worst thing to happen to me this week.
Still should have seen it coming whenever its close between two schools distance is often the decider. Of course I think Michigan has a brighter future than Stanford but if in his mind he thought they were about equal then I can't blame him for wanting to stay close to home.
Easy trap to fall into.... very dangerous.
Quick, someone send him this image. It will change his life for the bettar
I forgot to give you a serious shoutout! Josh tweeted you were his favorite guy to talk too, and he hated most. You rock brother and are my main recrutiing resource, scooping people at an amazing pace.. love the interviews.. keep it going. Love TomVH and all his connections, but i also love a dude who doesnt try and sell subs and gives great info!
Not getting him will hurt in the far more important recruiting class rankings than on the field. I think that's the true tragedy here that must be remembered. Gloating rights.
Best of luck to Josh. Anytime you decide to go to school somewhere like Stanford, you made a great call.
Garnett's reasons for staying on the West Coast are exactly why Michigan, Ohio and the rest of the Upper Midwest HAVE to be 80% of the basis of every Michigan recruiting class. No matter the region, it is difficult in general to get a kid to leave that area unless there is no choice. And with the caliber of player that Michigan is going after, those kids will have the choice.
While certainly the chances of pulling an out of region kid is higher where the kid ha ties to Michigan (or at least midwest - Lewan, Wile, Pipkins), or for whom distance is not a factor, I think you are overstating the limitations on Michigan's national recruiting profile.
While it is true that the backbone of just about every school (maybe save Notre Dame) comes from within a 4 hour drive of the school, as Rich Rod said when he took the job, Michigan is a national brand that will attract kids from throughout the country.
We will continue to pull kids from California, Texas and hopefully Florida who "have a choice."
While Michigan is not for every out of region kid, to characterize it as a safety school for kids from out or region like you have done gets it exactly backwards.
Elite HS OL prospects have a relatively high athletic wash out rate (i.e. not starting and not going Pro) and this kid was smart enough to focus a lot on academics and picked a great school and almost picked another great school.
How can you fault the kid for wanting his folks to be able to see him play more than once a year?
Good Luck young man.
I don't see anybody faulting him for his choice.
I do see countless people going out of their way to be gracious losers in the recruitment game and commending him on simply making a choice. The kid's going to play college football at a premier academic institution!
He has it made regardless of MGoBloggers respecting his "difficult" decision. M-Wolverine already said it better than I will, but Jesus, nobody needs to be high-fived for picking 1A over 1B.
I should clarify too, I'm not ragging on you for posting this. You said you'd follow up, you DID follow up, and you let us know. You are doing a service for the rest of us. Your post was fine.
It's more the back and forth commentary (that I've mostly avoided) where he's an angel who just went to a different heaven when he first commits, to a devil because he LIED!!!! to OP, back to oh, well, he just wanted to stay close to home, isn't he swell? He's a kid who picked another school. He made a pretty good choice. He'll do well. But there are hundreds of those guys every year. And a LOT of them are good kids. You are covering them for us. That's appreciated. Everyone else just needs to get over him.
He was my everything.
So hopefully this is the end of all the JG comments forever because I dont care anymore but i can't stop clicking on new entries when they come up. but I don't really care. But i can't stop.
who gives a fu*k. unless u git him to decommit and come to michigan. its not worth posting.
i will if u delete yours
Also, your sig definitetly violates the strict "No Relgion" policy here. Just saying.
come close to picking us then going elsewhere. But it's part of the recruiting game and always will be. It's painful to lose these battles for really good players, but I think Hoke and staff will be more successful in the future as they start building relationships with kids earlier in the process and they build a record of success at Michigan. Also, I do think the 3 years under RR damaged our reputation a little and that will make it harder for the short term with some of the elite kids. And West Coast kids are going to be harder in general to get to come to Michigan. So, the "batting average" in signing these players is always going to be lower.
Going forward, the Garnett decision puts some pressure on the coaches to find a couple quality O-linemen in this class.
You meant to say "a couple MORE quality linemen," right?
With as much indecisiveness as he went into it, I just hope the decision was his and his alone. I grew up with mothers guilt and as good as her intentions were, sometimes boys need to leave home to become men. Either way he's great kid and he'll do well.
Sam Webb's numerous statements that distance won't be a factor for Garnett, which seemed to put UM on an equal footing with Stanford. Josh's father had wanted to play for Bo, but Michigan was too far away for his parents; supposedly Josh's father had said or implied that proximity would not be an issue for his son. As Sam said this morning, it appears that distance was in fact an issue. I wonder if this is a case of the father and mother disagreeing, and mom won.
Mother always wins!
So do girlfriends.
He elects to go to Stanford and his parents can more easily travel to see him play. that works for me.