I knew it! MSU is in fact the root of all evil in the world!

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March 8th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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James Burrill Angell
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I knew it! MSU is in fact the root of all evil in the world!

Love it! As if our friends at Michigan's Secondbest University don't have enough of a complex being called the younger sibling and featuring a student body loaded with Michigan rejection letters, there's now this:

http://www.freep.com/article/20110308/NEWS06/103080381/After-attacks-MSU-s-Libya-program-under-scrutiny?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Apparently MSU, in an effort to find someone's top students who will come to their school, have started a program in cahoots with Moammar Gadhafi to train Libya's "future leaders" as picked by Gadhafi's government. AWESOME!!!! Maybe the football team learned its ski-mask enhanced student group suppression tactics during some idea exchange sessions with the Future Libyan Leadership club.

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March 8th, 2011 at 12:39 PM | When your school is broke, (Score:1)
aaamichfan
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When your school is broke, you've gotta find a way to get donation money somehow.........

March 8th, 2011 at 12:46 PM | Surprised? Not so much. (Score:1)
Soulfire21
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Surprised?

Not so much.

HAIL.

March 8th, 2011 at 12:56 PM | Please don't refer to them as (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
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Please don't refer to them as the second-best school in the state....at least qualify it by saying  second-best "public" school in the state.

March 8th, 2011 at 2:20 PM | Prey tell me...what private (Score:1)
MGoRob
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Prey tell me...what private school in MI is better?

March 8th, 2011 at 2:29 PM | Hillsdale (Score:1)
bringthewood
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Hillsdale, maybe Hope.  Hillsdale is much tougher to get into these days than MSU.  Grand Valley is not far behind.  Don't know about Michigan Tech.

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March 8th, 2011 at 2:46 PM | Just because it's tougher to get in to (Score:1)
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Doesn't mean it's a better school.  I got into Michigan grad school.  I didn't get in to Penn St.  Penn St. has a very good grad program for engineering, but Michigan's is perceived to be better.  MSU is a better school than all the schools you listed.  The closest is probably Tech.

I'm not going to bash smaller schools, I think they serve a good purpose and realize big schools aren't for everyone, so Hope and Hillsdale are probably good schools.  But the resources, research, etc. that MSU brings in far outweighs what those schools can offer.  Name recognition also plays a huge roll in getting jobs.  That's why sports actually can be important for representing Universities.  MSU is a better school overall for some of the same reasons Michigan is a better school overall than MSU.  Also, obviously, I think it depends greatly on what your major is.

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March 8th, 2011 at 3:16 PM | I went to Tech.  Tech is one (Score:1)
blacknblue
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I went to Tech.  Tech is one of the best engineering schools in the country.  If you're going into Engineering Michigan Tech is easily on par with Michigan.  The problem with Tech is that if you're not going into Engineering, Computer Science, or surprsingly Technincal Communication, you're better off going anywhere else.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:25 PM | I agree Tech is a good Engineering school. (Score:1)
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Being an engineering major, I see that.  I was speaking about overall in my comment above. I think even in engineering it can get into specifics.  I'm sure there are aspects in engineering that are better at UM, some that are better at MSU, and some that are better at tech, depending on what you want to do with whatever type of engineering degree you get.

I think a lot of arguments can be made about what "better" means as well.  Does better mean how well profs teach undergrads.  If that's the case, I'll flat out say Michigan isn't one of the "best" because they do tend to focus on grad students.  That's not what I believe "better" to mean, but it could be argued as much.  I tend to think it's a mix of a lot of things personally, including how much it helps you get a job.  I think one important thing to realize as well is that any school is as good as you make it.  I don't care if it's UM, MSU, CMU, Tech, Northern, Hope, etc., a college education is what you get out of it.  If you want to work harder, study more, challenge yourself, those challenges can be had at any school.  I think the fact that Michigan is naturally challenging gives it the perception of being "better", which is nice for a lot of us on here, but I do think that challenge can be had at almost any school.

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March 8th, 2011 at 2:31 PM | Buttwipe College, it's (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
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Buttwipe College, it's located in a quaint U.P. town., you've probably never heard of it.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:31 PM | For the sake of your argument (Score:1)
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I would refrain from using such unwitty and unclever jokes as calling "Buttwipe College" a better school than MSU.  It makes you seem uncredible and any school you are actually claiming to be better uncredible simply because you used a joke that a 5 year old could think up.

I say this because, in a debate, I tend to agree with the Joker when he says "why so serious?"  I like agood,  clever joke.  But damn dude, that joke was lame.  That was like some serious Krusty the Clown stand up material.

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March 8th, 2011 at 5:18 PM | Yes, or I could have just (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
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Yes, or I could have just repeated the comment below mine that proved my original point.  My mistake for using what I clearly thought was high-end comedy. Sorry for offending your delicate comedic taste.

March 8th, 2011 at 2:44 PM | Calvin College and Hope (Score:1)
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Calvin College and Hope College.

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March 8th, 2011 at 2:53 PM | I guess it depends on your (Score:1)
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I guess it depends on your point of view.  I think of it in terms of research in natural science.  MSU blows both of those out of the water.  And Michigan blows MSU out of the water (except in plant research).

For liberal arts studies though, you definitely may have a point, but I don't know enough of either departments to make an accurate statement.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:38 PM | Don't forget (Score:1)
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Albion College and Kalamazoo College.

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March 8th, 2011 at 4:14 PM | Kalamazoo College....and by a (Score:1)
Bb011
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Kalamazoo College....and by a long shot.

March 8th, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Just fyi, you are linking to (Score:1)
david from wyoming
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Just fyi, you are linking to a print page which can be slightly annoying.

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March 8th, 2011 at 1:19 PM | Dem's da breaks (Score:1)
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Slightly annoying but a reasonable way of taking hits away from Rosenberg's employer.

March 8th, 2011 at 1:24 PM | I'm pretty sure Brian (Score:1)
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I'm pretty sure Brian jerry-rigged (Is that really a term?) the system so freep links automatically reformat to the print link.  I don't know if this is still functional, but it was at one point.

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March 8th, 2011 at 1:35 PM | let's find out (Score:1)
octal9
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http://www.freep.com/article/this-is-not-an-article

edit: still functional.

double edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_rig#Etymology

March 8th, 2011 at 1:14 PM | Uhm (Score:1)
DrImp607
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So by preparing a country's leaders to be culturally sound and have good diplomatic skills, MSU is doing a bad thing? 

I think this is more political than sports bashing...

March 8th, 2011 at 1:19 PM | “There is no state with (Score:1)
jhackney
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“There is no state with a democracy except Libya on the whole planet.”

 

Muammar Gaddafi

 

Way to go State. Now I know why Gaddafi chose an all green flag.

March 8th, 2011 at 1:21 PM | so MSU is being funded by (Score:1)
umichzach
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so MSU is being funded by terrorists????

March 8th, 2011 at 1:25 PM | Who knew... (Score:1)
4godkingandwolv...
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... the MSU football team thugs were Lybian.  Seems like their training is paying dividends back home.

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March 8th, 2011 at 1:41 PM | Cue the mashup of the Libyans (Score:1)
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Cue the mashup of the Libyans from Back to the Future, sporting new Sparty ski masks, chasing Doc Brown, Marty and the Libyan opposition around the parking lot in a VW van.

March 8th, 2011 at 4:54 PM | Please... (Score:1)
4godkingandwolv...
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... for the love all things, somebody make this happen. 

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

March 8th, 2011 at 1:49 PM | ...and featuring a student (Score:1)
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...and featuring a student body loaded with Michigan rejection letters...

Not according to some of the posts I've seen on the RCMB. The claim that, "I applied to Michigan just to turn them down" occurs with surprising frequency with a close second being, "Michigan was my safety school".

 

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March 8th, 2011 at 2:21 PM | yep, because all of the (Score:1)
double blue
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yep, because all of the statistics point to michigan being easier to get into than msu.  oh, i forgot they don't understand statistics and therefore, this rationalizations is exactly that- a rationalization. 

 

god, i am so happy things are starting to return to normal with our dominance of them.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:14 PM | See and here I thought it was (Score:1)
saveferris
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See and here I thought it was because they were all just a bunch of gratuitous liars.

It's a ridiculous lie at that, as if an 18 year old high school student is going to piss away a $100 application fee (or whatever it is these days) just to have the satisfation of telling that institution to "piss off".  Ludicrous.

 

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"Fix the cigarette lighter."

March 8th, 2011 at 2:39 PM | "I applied to Michigan just to turn them down" (Score:1)
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This sounds suspisciously like "I dated Brooklyn Decker just so I could jilt her and marry the bovine I'm with now."

Gotta love those RCMB posters.

 

 

 

March 8th, 2011 at 3:29 PM | Which shows (Score:1)
James Burrill Angell
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Which shows how stupid they really are.

Why the hell would you voluntarily go to a school to get a sheepskin that is considered inferior to another one you could have received if you went elsewhere. Just stupid.

I someday hope my kids go to Michigan BUT if they get into an Ivy League school, I'll get a second and third job to send them there if I must and they WILL go regardless of my or their sports allegiances.

March 8th, 2011 at 5:28 PM | Make sure you save up so they (Score:1)
MGoChippewa
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Make sure you save up so they can afford to go to UofM and aren't forced to go with their second choice....

March 8th, 2011 at 3:35 PM | There are very few reasons I can say going to MSU in this case (Score:1)
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The most obvious is if you have some sort of funding at MSU that you don't at Michigan.  There are some other possibilities, but for the most part, 95% of those that get into Michigan and MSU are going to Michigan (assuming they are picking between those two schools).

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March 8th, 2011 at 3:43 PM | MSU can be randomly and (Score:1)
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MSU can be randomly and perplexingly selective. Somebody I know was applying to medical schools. She got rejected to both of MSU's programs, but got in to UofMs. Go figure.

 

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

March 8th, 2011 at 4:03 PM | I think all schools have that random perplexity (Score:1)
Space Coyote
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I used my Penn St. story above, but that is understandable based on the fact that Penn St. funds something like 95% of the graduate students themselves.  These weird things do happen on occassion though, no matter the school.  The only thing I question is the number of people that claim it to happen and, even more so, the reasons they give for picking MSU over Michigan.

4/23/13 - Denard Robinson's NFL Future, Part II

March 8th, 2011 at 1:53 PM | Bin Laden is also the new (Score:1)
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Bin Laden is also the new water boy, so this doesn't surprise me.

March 8th, 2011 at 2:19 PM | I wouldn't consider (Score:1)
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I wouldn't consider Misdemeanor State University the second best University in our great state. Wouldn't even say it is the third...

March 8th, 2011 at 2:31 PM | I resent that they are second best... (Score:1)
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I can think of at least 2 private schools that are better academically than MSU...

David Cone is my homeboy...

March 8th, 2011 at 2:35 PM | While I see you are trying to (Score:1)
Mgobowl
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While I see you are trying to be humorous, lets separate out the Libyan people from Moammar Gadhafi. Just because he's off his rocker doesn't mean all the people from Libya are too.

Many countries (Iraq and Iran included) will pay for their citizens to go to school in foreign countries so long as they are willing to return to the country when their program is done. Regardless of how the 35 students were chosen, this is a good thing because it exposes those students to western culture, gives them an education, and hopefully when they return to Libya they have a more positive view of the US.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:31 PM | Stop with... (Score:1)
James Burrill Angell
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Stop with the first sentence man. Its a joke.

March 8th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | I too think it's a stretch to (Score:1)
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I too think it's a stretch to call Sparty Michigan's "Second Best University."  Kalamazoo College, Michigan Tech, and Calvin College could all make good arguments for being number two. 

 

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March 8th, 2011 at 3:17 PM | Dantonio used the Player's Council on Gaddafi (Score:1)
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Expect to see him playing in next week's game. The crimes against humanity deserved a second chance so he will be traveling with the team and sitting out the first series... to teach him a lesson.

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