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Hypothetical Discussion: Denard Robinson Playing QB (or Another Position) with Tebow at Denver
December 18th, 2011 at 10:27 PM
#1
Hypothetical Discussion: Denard Robinson Playing QB (or Another Position) with Tebow at Denver
It is late Sunday night and very slow. May be an interesting hypothetical to think about.
I just saw how Denver is miraculously leading their division thanks in part to Tim Tebow. Whatever one thinks about him he is a heck of a player and is providing some evidence that a non-traditional QB can succeed at the next level.
Enter Denard. They are different players and have different strengths but the similarity between them is that they have proved they can succeed at football at the highest levels while playing the position differently.
Of course another way to think about this is the possibility of Denard playing on the field at the same time. That would be a real thunder and lightning combo.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:31 PM
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(No subject)
December 18th, 2011 at 10:34 PM
#3
Everything makes so much more
sense now.....
December 18th, 2011 at 10:38 PM
#4
Question - would this picture
Question - would this picture be any less funny in ANY other thread on any other board on the internet?
The answer is C.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:33 PM
#5
Does Jesus love Denard as much as Tebow?
That's the real question.
December 19th, 2011 at 12:01 AM
#6
Trick question. Tebow IS
Trick question. Tebow IS Jesus.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:33 PM
#7
Who would throw?
Who would throw?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:40 AM
#8
Agreed. To a lesser extent
Agreed. To a lesser extent Cam Newton the same way Mike Vick was this year. NFL Defenses always seem to lag a year behind the players that are "revolutionizing the way NFL offenses operate"
December 19th, 2011 at 9:25 AM
#9
Maybe, but if there's only
1 team playing Tebow-ball, then how much time will NFL DC's dedicate to actually stopping it, and reduce practice time from traditional O's? Also, who's to say that Tebow doesn't improve his throwing and that Denver's O will evolve? It's not like the Wildcat, which many teams adopted, many players could run, and had no real opportunity at innovation.
I'm not sure the Vick comparison is a good one either, as the Eagles have a lot of other problems, and they do light people up, occasionally still.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:36 PM
#12
Those two on the field at the
Those two on the field at the same time would have to cause a double rainbow and possibly end world hunger.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:36 PM
#13
Let me say right now this is
Let me say right now this is NOT meant to be a "Denard should play another position" thread. It is purely meant to be a speculative and a good-natured discussion.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:39 PM
#14
One of them would end up
One of them would end up getting McGloined over whether it is Tebowing or Denarding. Would never work...
December 18th, 2011 at 10:40 PM
#15
Honestly, I think Tebow will
Honestly, I think Tebow will be a competent, if below-average, QB in the league for a couple of years, after which he'll move on to his next career in politics, religion, sportscasting, etc. I love Denard, and I think in college he should play QB, but if he expects to make it in the NFL he'll have to be in the Randle-El/Hines Ward style of changing his position. He has elite speed and that means something, but 6-foot QBs with okay mechanics and accuracy don't last that long in the NFL.
December 18th, 2011 at 10:49 PM
#16
Whoever negged this is really
Whoever negged this is really dumb. Doesn't everyone have fantasies of Denard returning kickoffs? He's so dangerous in space. I'd love to see him as a return man on the next level.
December 18th, 2011 at 11:14 PM
#17
posted from iPhone
Someone should notify CERN if Denard starts returning kicks because the impact of that tackle (full head of steam) may create the God particle
December 18th, 2011 at 10:58 PM
#18
I'm praying whatever he does
I'm praying whatever he does after the NFL is out of the public eye.
December 19th, 2011 at 4:03 PM
#19
Recurring segment on ESPN 2's
Recurring segment on ESPN 2's First Take it is then.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:06 AM
#20
Hines Ward was a WR at
Hines Ward was a WR at Georgia. Was he a HS QB or something?
December 19th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
#21
He started a few games at QB
He started a few games at QB for Georgia his sophomore year. Holds some bowl game records for them at QB too.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:37 PM
#22
As noted below, he was their
As noted below, he was their QB for at least half a season, and (I think) lined up for them as an early-style Wildcat QB later in his career. I'm just trying to think of college QBs who actually made a decent switch. I mean, Eric Crouch and Woody Dantzler tried, and both of them flamed out.
December 19th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
#23
probably correct
but, if denard continues and hones further the accuracy he displayed in the last 2-3 games on into next year, not only will he be unstoppable his senior season (hurray!), but would, with both great passing accuracy and great speed, be given a chance at qb in the nfl.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:41 PM
#24
I would be fine with him
I would be fine with him getting a chance, but he isn't a Drew Brees-style passer; he makes some good throws but his ability to hit the small windows you need to at the pro level just hasn't been there, and I don't see him being able to make that type of immense improvement in a season. That said, he could definitely be a solid change-of-pace all-purpose back and a good kick returner.
December 19th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
#25
Tebow isn't a QB
I agree with your assesment, except for the part where you call Tebow a QB. In reality, Tim Tebow is a RB that has the ball direct-snapped to him.
In terms of attempts-completions, the closet person listed as a QB is the oh-so-awesome Christian Ponder of the Minnesota Vikings. Ponder has played in three fewer games and has one fewer starts.
There is no "Tebow magic." There Denver playing with a decent defense, a solid O-line, and a weaksauce division.
| RK | PLAYER | TEAM | ATT | COMP | PCT | YDS | YDS/A | LONG | TD | INT | SACK | RATE | YDS/G |
| 21 | Tim Tebow, QB | DEN | 220 | 107 | 48.6 | 1,484 | 6.75 | 56 | 11 | 2 | 27 | 83.6 | 124 |
| 26 | MIN | 268 | 146 | 54.5 | 1,757 | 6.56 | 72 | 13 | 12 | 28 | 72.3 | 195 |
December 18th, 2011 at 10:47 PM
#26
One of these days someone's
One of these days someone's going to have to create a diary that contains everything that you could post that would get negged on MGoBlog, call it MGoProfanity or something. Putting "Denard" and "Another position" is sure to piss people off. Anyway, here's a start on the rest:
Denard another position QB controversy put Devin in Drew Sharp link Appalachian State Michael Rosenberg is right and awesome Urban Meyer dynasty The Ohio State University Dick Rod scUM O$U M$U Detroit Free Press bring back DeBord!
December 18th, 2011 at 10:49 PM
#27
Urge to kill rising
Urge to kill rising
December 19th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
#28
No mention of Mascot or new
No mention of Mascot or new uniforms? FAIL
December 18th, 2011 at 10:57 PM
#29
All I have to say on the matter...
December 18th, 2011 at 11:02 PM
#30
I've always been curious to
I've always been curious to see how a shotgun offense would work with 2 dual threat QBs. For example, you could run stretch plays or options with pass options automatically worked in, and you wouldn't have to worry about downfield blocking at all. So many possibilities...
December 18th, 2011 at 11:10 PM
#31
NFL coaches are sheep
Nobody would ever try something as creative as two QB's on the field at once in the NFL as anything more than an occasional gimmick play. They won't even try it in college yet, though Al Borges at least experimented with Devin and Denard.
Back to the NFL: everyone runs variations of two offenses, and anything else we ever get to see out of the NFL is a major bonus. The only time they get creative is in the "two minute drill," when they are desperate enough to do anything they can.
Still, though, as the criticism of the run and shoot would indicate, NFL management and coaches shoot down anything that is different than the status quo. It's really too bad; the game would be a lot more interesting if the NFL took the giant sticks out of their recti.
December 19th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
#32
So it's sheeplike to not put
So it's sheeplike to not put two QB's at risk of injury on the same play just because you have a hunch that a 2 QB system would be totally rad dude? Most of the time in situations like these nobody does these kinds of things because they're stupid.
December 18th, 2011 at 11:04 PM
#33
Brad Smith/Randel El
He will be the jack of all trades. Put him back to return kicks, play in the wildcat, and do a bunch of other stuff. I think we will see Denard in the NFL for a good 7 to 9 years terrorizing teams with speed/vision/and a decent capability to throw.
December 18th, 2011 at 11:23 PM
#34
Dilithium=Hester 2.0
Yep. It's science
December 18th, 2011 at 11:27 PM
#35
Denarding
Denarding > Tebowing
December 18th, 2011 at 11:28 PM
#36
Tebow and Robinson
tebow might turn out to be an above average qb in the NFL. but he has size on his side to take some big hits. denard does not have the build to sustain james harrison type hits. denard might be better off as a wr/pr/kr.
December 19th, 2011 at 12:30 AM
#37
Limited vision
Why do we assume that Denard cannot eventually make the transition into a pocket passing QB? Let's think about the guy who is in second place with most of the career passing marks at Michigan - John Navarre. He definitely didn't have Denard's ability to run, and prior to his senior year, his footwork was aweful and that led to some very inaccurate throws.
He still made it the NFL, started a few games, Denny Green had a man crush on him ...
Denard has the ability to move around, generating a few extra seconds that is the difference between an incomplete pass, a coverage pass, or a completion for a first down, in the NFL.
As for height, that short Drew Brees kid, he sure never amounted to much in the NFL. He has a full off season and next year to improve. Either way, we can enjoy one of the most amazing and humble college football players to come around in a long time (sans Tebow).
December 19th, 2011 at 2:04 AM
#38
the fact
that you brought up Navarre rules you out of any coherent QB discussion in the future.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:13 AM
#39
You have to be a
great passer like Drew Brees for the NFL to consider you as a viable qb prospect at his size. Too short.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:17 AM
#40
To further my thought
Brees was a great college qb, very accurate. Denard can improve a lot but I don't think he has the natural qb instincts needed to excel in the NFL. Loves me Denard but I don't see him being a successful qb in the league.
December 19th, 2011 at 5:17 AM
#41
Of Course...
....this would hinge on Denard Robinson actually being drafted by Denver when the time comes. That being said, I think the primary issue is that the NFL, being even more conservative on offensive formation than college, would be hesitant to even attempt a 2 QB play. If they were on the field at the same time on the same team, I'll put it like this - I have a pretty good idea who one of the people in the receiving corps would be in an NFL offense.
I'll go with what a few people said here - the idea of Denard Robinson returning kicks in the NFL is an interesting one. It's one of the few places where they WILL utilize someone as dangerous in space as he is.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:21 AM
#42
Denard is
a quarterback ..I think you'll see a hugh game against VT.. A healthy Denard = elite ..But that's the key,healthy ...Denard still has a year to grow in the new offense and a year to get some size and to get stronger physically ...
December 19th, 2011 at 8:43 AM
#43
Huge ...
God I hate this droid !!
December 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
#44
I Would Agree...
I think he is a QB as well and could probably be a serviceable one in the NFL at the present rate of growth. Will they think that ("they" being whatever team drafts him)? My fear is that they won't draft him to be that QB, and it is still a nagging fear I have.
December 19th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
#45
posted from iPhone
I hope they don't, Denver only still has Tebow healthy because he is a very large inhuman tank-beast. If they put Denard in the same position I fear he would be pulped. While his throwing abilities are non-trivial and hopefully will be continue to develop next year, I expect to see denard as a specialty return man a la devin Hester with maybe some reps at slot.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:42 AM
#46
Denard is a demi-god
and therefore can do what the fuck he wants. End of discussion.
December 19th, 2011 at 10:05 AM
#47
Bless you
Bless you for bringing up this topic. My buddy and I have debated this over the past few weeks.
I think they would be unstopabble in the Wildcat together. Not knowing who is getting the ball, etc, would be too hard to defend. And the trick plays I envision the two pulling off would be so fun to watch. Even running the option would be great. But I dont watch the NFL anymore, so Im not the best guy for this.
My buddy hates Denard (he is tosu fan) so he thinks Denard will never play on Sundays and Tebow is a joke and will be out of the NFL in under four yrs. And he loves the NFL like its his child.
