without researching, has Michigan ever had a basketball National Player of the year?
Hypo: Burke leaves. Where does he rank in a list of M's all time greats?
In 1966. Also won 3 Big Ten Championships and played in two Final Fours (and one championship game).
We have a winner. Case closed.
You can add; Big Ten player of the Year (superfluous, to national player of the year), and first pick overall in the 1966 NBA draft. The number I particularly like is 30.8 points a game, before the 3-point era. And Cazzie earned an NBA championship ring with the Knicks in 1970.
Incomparable. We live in the House that Cazzie Built.
None of which would have happened if Cazzie had departed school in 1965, as say a second round NBA pick.
Oh, we'd have gotten a new multipurpose indoor arena in any event. Of course Cazzie didn't "build" the arena. Yost could no longer properly host basketball and everything else. And we could more accurately say that Fritz Crisler really built the house that bears his name. But no one doubts the meaning of "the house that Cazzie built."
Mike McGee was the man and led the team in scoring for 4 years. Pretty sure he was also a first round draft choice. For those who have questions about Gary Grant's impact, I remember guys wearing "Grant is God" t-shirts around the dorm when he was a freshman. Time also makes it hard to recall how good certain guys were, but Ricky Green (still the fastest guy I"ve ever seen play) has to be in the conversaiton. Phil Hubbard also helped take the team (with Green) to the championship game and made the Olympic team as a freshman. Burke, however, certainly rates as one of the best.
I was flipping between OKC vs. LAC yesterday, but I didn't hear a Jared Sullinger reference...hopefully he's risen above "that guy" label.
This year's Michigan team is easily top 10 in the country. How many wins do you guys think we'd have this year without Trey?
He'll probably go down somewhere in the 8-15 range when it's all said and done. Michigan has had some amazing past players.
Interesting. Burke is a possible POY winner. If he wins, are we saying he isn't as good as past PGs? That would be an odd statement, though still possible.
As a point gaurd, I think the only competition he has is Gary Grant and Jalen Rose. However, if we are talking one year comparisons, it goes to Burke. Unless Burke takes us to at least the Final Four, then he would be 3rd on that list.