I hear El Paso is beautiful this time of year.
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I hear El Paso is beautiful this time of year.
It seems like Rungnado Stadium would be a pretty sweet site for a bowl game.
The crowd would be equally split for each team and it would be a sell out, or else. People would be so happy when "their" team won they would be in tears....
Well, North Korea is the best Korea.
A few years back, someone on this blog posted his picture wearing Michigan gear in front of the Pyongyang stadium.
the Big Ten has some pretty solid partnerships. I would like to see the Big Ten add another West Coast game (either Holiday Bowl in San Diego or Kraft Fight Hunger in San Francisco). But subbing out San Antonio, Nashville, & El Paso for Jacksonville, Houston, & Dallas was a win in my view.
but I would put San Antonio and Nashville above any of the other three.
Jacksonville is a skidmark on the underpants of society.
San Antonio is a blast. I haven't met anyone who hasn't said Jacksonville was the worst Michigan bowl destination ever. And that was before the game.
Yeah, I'll agree with that. I've been to San Antonio and it's a cool town, and although I've never been to Jacksonville, I've never heard anything good.
That said, Jacksonville might be better as a Big Ten bowl destination as it's closer to the schools and alumni bases. There are a lot of Big Ten alumni in Florida, and Jacksonville is driveable from many of the Big Ten states, whereas San Antonio is not.
But there are a lot of people from here in Texas and Arizona.
Might be more true with Maryland and Rutgers. Was less true when adding Nebraska to Iowa and such. Though really, venue, location, or fans have nothing to do with it as much as how big a check they offer Delaney.
How about the moes southwestern grill : eat so much you brown your shorts bowl?
Looking at the map, what other cities could host?
Denver seems like a missed opportunity. Yeah, it's a little cold, but it's usually warmer than people think. Highs in the next week range from 30 to 48.
If there are bowl games in Detroit and New York, why not Chicago and Boston. Weather, I know. But would you rather go to Orlando or Boston? It's not like Orlando is 85 degrees right now anyway.
Kansas City can be fun.
I'm not calling for new bowls to be started from scratch. As I said, I want the Holiday Bowl back. Our 3rd-place team used to go there. We played there in the 1984 and '94 seasons.
But if we were starting new bowls, I think Anaheim would be a good site. California seems underused as a bowl location.
Despite my obvious bias, I agree with this whole-heartedly. The Big Ten has tons of fans and alumni out here, and it's a more desirable place for young people to travel to than most cities in the Southeast.
As someone who live in Kansas City, I can't really see it as a bowl destination. But I like your Denver idea... fun town, and great winter sports not far away.
An outdoor bowl in the snow at Soldier Field? Hell yes. "Players don't like it"? Bah. Get a sweet sponsor with gift cards to the Palm Steakhouse or something, give it some pomp and circumstance that makes the snow prestigious, and players will love it.
Also, I think there should be at least 3 bowls in Las Vegas. Who doesn't like going there? Tons of lodging, tons of other things to do, close to a lot of population, great weather and a place everyone loves to visit.
Does Las Vegas even have three football stadiums big enough to host a bowl game?
Why do they need three stadiums? Play them all in the same stadium. Many stadiums have mulitple bowl games - off the top of my head Qualcomm in SD has the Poinsettia and Holiday Bowl, and the game going on right now is in the same stadium as the Capital One bowl.
As long as you have a day or two in between bowls, you're fine. In fact, you might get some fans to attend more than one of the bowls, which would help attendance.
Host minor bowls in the same stadiums as major bowls one or two days ahead of time. Work with hotels to create special discount weeklong packages. Offer tickets to both bowls for the same price as one (the more expensive one) when you book a weeklong stay. You can even sell tickets through hotel networks so the area tourism committee helps foot the bill for sales staff.
There certainly were a lot of Alabama fans at the Sugar Bowl last year. I think NO has three bowl games, all in the same stadium.
Hollis is working on a plan to play them simultaneously.
In Gambling Center, USA. Particularly college.
But there's already a bowl there, so obviously some do. There are big bowl games in New Orleans, Miami and LA where there is plenty of trouble to find, and we know this is all about money anyway.
Gambling in your sport and that's a freak out.
As I recall they had quite the fight to get that bowl game there. Great city though.
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
seems like the San Antonio PD cares about one of those on your list..
The only thing is Vegas can get really cold at night during bowl season.
Chicago and Boston would be great. Relatively easy to get to by air, lots of attractions, even in the winter, and fans of teams from the South probably would be into the possibility of seeing real live snow.
I've heard a lot of people saying that the last couple of days.
... would be cool. I live here and winters are rainy, but not horrible (40-45 degrees). Plus it's a great city for a 3-5 day visit and you could also bundle it with a trip to Vancouver and Whistler for skiing if you want to extend to 7+ days.
That being said, 40-45 degrees is not Orlando.
I can't blame them. One of my good friends is a Husker fan and he has no desire to go to the same bowl 2 years in a row, especially after a vicious beat down against Wisconsin.
And honestly, if they thought the Wisconsin game was bad, now they have to play a team with a far better defense and one that was one play away from getting to the national title game. Georgia will vent all of its frustration on Nebraska, and this game could be over by the half.
While I agree that the conference could use some new bowl sites, there's absolutely no sympathy for Husker fans. If the refs hadn't gift wrapped some games for them this year and the sports GODs given them 3 quarters against a Denardless Michigan team, they would currently be at a worse bowl game this holiday season.
Also, their embarrassment of the conference title game is on par with the endless times Tom Osborn ran up the score to 70+ points on opponents. The shoe is on the other foot now. Suck it up, cheer your team and enjoy a trip to Florida.
I don't hate Nebraska, but this is a gift for them. The reality of their season must be sinking in.
I hate Nebraska enough for both of us.
Yeah, but Osborne has been retired for fifteen years, and Nebraska got its comeuppance during the Callahan era. The Callahan era was arguably worse for them than the Rich Rod era was for us, so any dues they had to pay have been paid in full.
when he had his 2nd and 3rd stringers in and were running the ball every play? Tell them to fall down? Husker fans aren't pissed at Wisconsin for running up the score, they're pissed at the team for blowing.
They should have invited us to the game.
Unless they get a BCS bowl bid, I want Michigan down there EVERY year from now on!
"I'm moving to Florida in August."
Have fun with that.
As much as winter sucks in the Midwest, summer in Florida is absolutely brutal. FYI, summers last about 5 months in Florida.
While people were complaining to me about 100+ degree temps and high humidity in MI this Summer, it was never above 93 degrees here on the Gulf Coast with a daily shore breeze, moderate humidity (the sun burns it off), and no bugs. Those who complain about Florida Summers live too far from the beach.
I hope Nebraska keeps Pelini for a while
I say dump the Cap One, Outback & Gator and get the Cotton, Chick-fil-A & Liberty. I want Michigan to play in new bowl games, locations.
Way to set your hopes high for the future. Can't wait for all those Chik-fil-A bowls
Despite the name, the Chick-fil-A Bowl is a pretty good one. Probably above all of the Big Ten bowls save the Rose and Cap1.
The Cotton and Peach are going to be access bowls in the new playoff.
I never understood why Hawaii never hosted a big bowl game but I would like to see a game in Puerto Rico. I don't think there is a stadium there but PR is much more interesting than Jacksonville.
If everything goes through and LA builds a new stadium, I have to believe they will have a bowl game, unless the Rose Bowl moves there which I don't see happening. Because the stadium will be expensive and new, it probably won't be a lower-tier bowl, either.
From what I hear, there will almost certainly be a bowl game at Farmer's Field, but as for the Rose Bowl, that will never move. Farmer's Field won't be as big as the Rose Bowl most likely, but that stadium just has too much history. You don't move the Rose Bowl.
Will UCLA play its home games at Farmer's Field?
I don't see why they would - they already have one of the best stadiums in the country to play in, with a great tailgating spot. Why would they want to give that up?
But isn't it really far to go from Westwood to Pasadena? I'm assuming it's a shorter trip downtown.
Eh, not by much. Plus parking and everything else would be a huge pain for the students. Pasadena is a hike from Westwood, but downtown isn't a whole lot better. And for all of the other fans coming from primarily the San Fernando and San Gabriel valleys, it's a lot worse.
IMO, parking at that golf course is much better than finding a parking spot in downtown.
Parking at the golf course is great - it's one of the best built-in taligating spots at any stadium.
Have you ever seen the SNL "Californians" skit? Because this discussion is a LA freeway and stare into a mirror away from being spot on.
Yeah, that skit is actually pretty accurate, beyond the accents. Most days I take around 5 different freeways to get home, depending on traffic. My wife, for example, takes the 110 to the 5 to the 2 to the 210 to the 5 to get home from work. That's because there's too much traffic to take the 110 to the the 101 to the 170 to the 5.
The Cotton Bowl had a pretty storied history but it still got moved from...err, the Cotton Bowl to Jerry World. This is a brave new world, my friend. Not a better world, just a braver one.
games just don't sell out in Hawaii because of the expense to get and stay there. Very few of the bowl have a high demand for tickets in general. The Rose Bowl hasn't even sold out yet.
I'll take your Fight Hunger Bowl and raise you a Beef O'Brady's Bowl.
there are too many bowls, with too many crappy matchups.
Tough economy in a year Nebraska had long'ish trips to Columbus, State College, East Lansing and Los Angeles, plus the overpriced and depressing appearance in the Big Ten Title game.
But this isn't a crappy bowl - it's one of the best non-BCS games. And Georgia is a good matchup.
The problem is that it's a repeat destination and that they don't expect to have much of a chance. It's still a little surprising to see such low ticket demand from the school that has such a huge rep for traveling.
Come on! Have you been watching these games? No one is going to any of them. The fans have caught on and they are basically all crappy bowls.
It's the number 1 reason the playoff thing is happening. The TV ratings are starting to get as abysmal as the attendance to these games. The networks weren't going to give out the huge contract to show this stuff for a few more years and demanded more meaningful games. The public at large isn't buying in with this junk anymore. When Nebraska fans fail to show up, you know it's crappy.
I don't disagree that there are a lot of pointless bowl games, but that is a separate discussion. All the bowls that have taken place so far are crappy, third-tier ones. They'll never draw well except in extreme circumstances.
The Citrus/CapOne Bowl is actually pretty prestigious and generally draws a decent crowd, if not a sellout.
Nebraska comes into a completely new conference expecting to experience all sorts of new destinations....and gets stuck with the same place their first two years in the conference.
While it sucks to see this, it doesn't make sense for a lot of people to go to one location for a game when they can travel wherever they want or stay close to home and watch all of the games in HD. I am surprised that schools can't sell more than 2,000 tickets in some cases, but I think the people know that they will get cheap tickets at the games unless it is a huge matchup.
Also, I think the sponsors are shooting themselves in the foot by plastering their name across the bowl. It is hard to get excited about the "prestige" of the Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas or Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl.
Jacksonville does, indeed, suck, but Orlando and the Tampa Bay area are great bowl venues. Orlando probably has more tourist entertainment than any other city its size, and, while Tampa is a bit of a dump, it isn't all that bad. The players get to go to Busch Gardens and Clearwater Beach, and even the bowling outing is great, because Splitsville is an extremely upscale operation. It's more like a night club that happens to have a few lanes attached to it than traditional bowling centers like Colonial Lanes.
Tampa, and the Tampa Bay area, know how to put on their best face for events. They have hosted so many that the entire area seems like a very efficient hospitality machine. It's no accident that they are always in the mix for Super Bowls, NCAA Basketball Tournament regionals, conference championship games, and even hockey.