How you would feel if Michigan and Michigan St stopped playing?

Submitted by althegreat23 on

Watching the halftime segment of the Texas-Texas A&M got me thinking about our own little brother. So I wanted to know how would everyone feel if we stopped playing State.

dennisblundon

November 24th, 2011 at 10:11 PM ^

Not at all. They pretty much annoy the shit out of me at this point. It's like picking a fight with someone smaller than you. Win and you were supposed to anyway, lose and you will never hear the end of it. 

Tater

November 25th, 2011 at 12:08 AM ^

I think you need a cold shower.  Funny how Sparty fans don't want to "live in the past" when they are 32-67-5 all time against Michigan.  Your comments prove that Sparty will never "grow up."  They will always be little brother, always have a massive inferiority complex, and will always get more mileage out of any victory over Michigan than most teams get out of a National Championship.

MGoSoftball

November 25th, 2011 at 12:13 AM ^

M dominates them in acedemics.  Each of our colleges are in the top 10.  Every graduate program is in the top 5.  Moo U isnt even close.

They have to resort to giving away tickets to their home games when they only hold 80,000.  We hold 30,000 more and we have to fight to get one of those.

There is only one recruit that chose Moo U over M only because he didnt have the grades. 

USN&WR reported that over 50% of the Moo U students applied to M and were rejected.  So it confirms the old addage "If you cant get into college, go to state".

We hold a 2 to 1 lead in football wins lifetime.  Our basketball team is back and we smoke them in Hockey.

In the entire history of the NCAA there is only one school that won NC in all 4 major men's sports.  Can you name that school?   HINT:  Its not Moo U.

The data is clear.  The debate is over.  Moo U is not and will never be anything like M.  It is not arrogance, its the facts.

Oscar

November 25th, 2011 at 1:27 AM ^

I think you got neg'd b/c someone thought you were either being sarcastic or talking bad about UM.  You know, I really like this board (and yes I am a UM fan), but the homerism is starting to get a little too much lately.

Dezzy

November 24th, 2011 at 10:13 PM ^

This would infuriate Sparty way more than us.  I would be a little bit sad that the rivalry went away, but would much rather stop playing MSU than ohio.

Yostbound and Down

November 24th, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^

You would think that, but MSU has such a big inferiority complex that that's not even enough. Who's the program that still gets all the national attention? Who's the better school? Who has at least one better rival to play (two if you put ND ahead of them)?

It sure as hell isn't State. 

I do want us to beat the snot out of them next year though.

Yostbound and Down

November 24th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^

It was. They're in our schedule for the conceivable future. We should beat them in those matchups. Ideally though, I'm not really sure where they fit in. I expect to beat them in football every year, and it sucks when we don't. I can't really say I expect to beat Ohio every year but they are a much better rival. 

Dezzy

November 24th, 2011 at 10:51 PM ^

Think of them as reacting to this situation the same way we would be if ohio were taken off the schedule.  When Michigan kicked their asses in the 90's, would anyone want to have taken them off the schedule since Michigan was so dominat?  How about now?  No one in ohio wants to take Michigan off the schedule even though they have won the past 7 (well technically 6 due to forfeit). 

I am not denying that it would be great for a team to end a rivalry winning the last four.  Hell, coaches do that kind of thing all the time.  You just never want your biggest rivalry to ever end, regardless of how lopsided it has been in recent years.

Oscar

November 24th, 2011 at 11:27 PM ^

your comparison of OSU and MSU seems to me like you view them as equal...  UM - OSU is a true rivaly, UM - MSU is a rivaly b/c we share the same state and they think they can consistently compete with us (with the exception of the last few years).  MSU knows their run is over (as their success depended on our recruiting failure).  OSU on the other hand has always had talent, and will continue to have talent.  So if it was actually possible for MSU to break off the matchup, this would be their perfect time to do it.

Here is a better example, think Texas and Texas A&M, I'll let you decide who is who...

Yostbound and Down

November 24th, 2011 at 10:14 PM ^

Now that I think about it, what would probably be best is to beat State about ten years in a row by gawdy point totals...I'm talking Fielding Yost levels here...and destroy their will to even have a Big Ten football team. How awesome would it be to have the dump that is Spartan Stadium razed to the ground.

RowoneEndzone

November 24th, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^

Yeah pretty much would ruin their season but be unnoticed by national media.  People outside of Michigan call the University of Michigan, Michigan and Michigan State, and don't even know there is a team that wears green.  They do not exist outside of the B1G.

M-Dog

November 25th, 2011 at 11:11 AM ^

This is true.  Nobody who does not live in Michigan would care.

I am not from Michigan.  I knew almost nothing about Michigan State until I attended school at Michigan.  When I told people back home where I went to school, they would think that Michigan and Michigan State were the same thing . . .  "That's that school with the big stadium and the cool helmets, right?"  I would just smile and say "Right" to save time. 

If MSU left for another conference and we did not play them anymore, I would not care.  As long as that slot in the schedule was filled by another B1G team.  

They are just another school.  It's only within Michigan that they mean anything, and that is just because of proximity and the annoyance factor.

That's life, kids.  You are where you are in the food chain.  Would Duke care if they never played Michigan again in hoops?  Not really.  Is what it is.

 

billybrown

November 24th, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^

why do people act like the rivalry with state isn't  a big deal? it's not as big as the rivalry with ohio but it's pretty damn big. if it's not that big of a deal ive sure seen a lot of rage over something that doesn't matter that much the last 4 years. it's the 2nd most important game all year in my eyes and i felt that way even when michigan won 6 seasons in a row. you always want to beat those guys and it fucking stings like hell when michigan loses. personally id be pretty mad if we stopped playing them. 

Dezzy

November 24th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^

It isn't that the rivalry isn't a big deal, it is just that it isn't the biggest deal.  Of course you want to beat an in-state school and typically compete with them, but in comparison with ohio, elminating MSU from the schedule would be a far less unfavored move than removing ohio.

Sac Fly

November 24th, 2011 at 10:30 PM ^

Texas just has an AD who happens to be a huge douche. I feel like losing the MSU game would mean more to them than us. Not only is it the biggest game for them every season, but it is one of the few chances they get for National recognition each year. They don't get very many chances in primetime.

MGoNOLA

November 24th, 2011 at 10:26 PM ^

I cant post topics yet put I saw this free flowing idiocy from Drew Sharp tonight. 

"Meyer won't have as much pressure at Ohio State, though the Buckeyes are the only program -- repeat, THE ONLY Midwestern-based football program -- remotely capable of regularly contending for national championships."

Basically  Sharp is full SEC rox and B1G can't run with the big boys. 

Look Up_See Blue

November 24th, 2011 at 10:38 PM ^

I think we should continue to play them. What are the scenarios that we would stop playing them? more B1G expansion? Schools split from NCAA? I don't see a scenario that would result in this game being taken off the schedule.

cp4three2

November 24th, 2011 at 10:38 PM ^

Though Dantonio has done a good job raising the rivalry in importance by making them a quality program and Delaney has made it more important than OSU by putting them in our division without OSU. 

 

In Basketball it'd be horrible.  Michigan is one of the best basketball recruiting areas around and the basketball games are great.

 

Raback Omaba

November 24th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^

Michigan State is 1B to OSU's 1A of our biggest rivals. There's no way around it. Yes, the OSU game annually is huge and our biggest of the year - can't stand their fans and love driving through Ohio rocking Michigan shit. But anyone who say's that we don't care about MSU, they only care about us etc. doesn't really know what they are talking about.

MSU is our rival. Bottom line. MSU is one of our biggest rivals. While we have owned them in Football historically and even in the not so distant past, this game is still big to the players and the program. Add to the fact that most of the Michigan based students and Alumni (which is a good portion of our base) live and work with MSU Alums, this game is huge and IS indeed a true rivalry.

I would care a great deal and no TRUE Michigan football fan would say otherwise. That game is huge.