with prayer. Because that's pretty much all you can do.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
with prayer. Because that's pretty much all you can do.
Didn't that get blown up by a bunch of teenagers. I like our chances then.
Their scheme is to dress everyone on D with poorly made death star costumes? That sounds like something they'd do in Ohio.
Likewise, except, fistbump.
Notre Dame didn't have luck with this one...
bend over and take it. Thats all they can do.
Or snipers. Lots of snipers.
They key, IME, is to get pressure on the outside via the defensive line. If he's immediately forced to scramble, but can't get the edge, you've got a chance. Easier said than done though.
this is the only real solution. it boils down to winning 1-on-1 matchups all across the field. The DB's have to get off their block as well as the line. The improved blocking is the biggest reason we're seeing Denard make such great plays. That, my friends, is a result of great coaching.
In theory, pressure on the outside would work, but that assumes the D-line will be able to consistently beat the offensive tackles, and Huyge and Dorrestein have been too good so far for this to happen.
This is the genius with the spread style offense. It forces every player into 1-on-1 matchups in open space. Denard can see which matchup is won by the blocker and proceed accordingly. It's an offense that forces the defense to make the first tactical move.
offsides on every down. Think about it. You could make one drive last the entire game and end up with a 0-0 score. A moral victory at leats for umASS!
You're joking, but in all seriousness, the offense would eventually refuse the offside call and just run a play for the last yard, half yard, whatever for the TD.
I like how you seriously disected this genius battle plan only to expose the fatal flaw in its design. Thanks for the laugh this morning.
MGoBlog is serious business.
If you go offsides AND make contact with the O-Line, or have an unabated path to the QB, the refs have to call the play dead, I don't think you can run a play and decline the penalty in that situation.
The real problem comes when all your players are ejected one by one for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Against Denard, I'd probably resort to Tonya Hardings strategy against Nancy Kerrigan. That's right, figure skating smack on mgoblog.... Who'd a-thought?
first thoughts. I was thinking, barbed wire, land mines, heat seeking missles.... then I just came to the conclusion, all efforts are futile....
With my offense. I think you'd have to do a "bend, don't break" approach by eliminating or reducing the chances of big plays. Then when I am on offense I would try to keep the ball for as long as possible and work the clock to keep Denard off the field.
This is a diabolical scheme. I hope no opposing coaches pick up on it! :)
don't let the lineman get downfield. i'd probably press the WR's to disrupt some timing routes. and have 3 all american lb's.
As a coach on the sideline I would pray and drink.
Edit: I give up, I'm awful at putting in images.
But it's soooo easy. Once you click reply, or in the text box where you type your comment, there is a square picture looking button on the top right (near the Globe/link icon)
Click it, and paste the link you just provided and click OK.
That image you just provided might be bad though.
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Of course, this could easily bsckfire, because the delay between Denard stepping on one and it actually detonating is probably worth 20 yards.
knock over the Center before he snaps the ball. eventually it would be impossible to place the ball half the distance to the goal line. confusion would result.
Curl up in a ball
Matich is a joke saying that, but probably did it for the ratings. As someone said earlier, what makes him smarter than Edsell and Kelly. I think teams will try everything and anything until something slows him down. I think there may be only 1 option but like to hear what some of the experts on the board think, because I am not one. I would hit him and run blitz every play and play man to man. Hit him and hopefully you slow him down, because nothing else will. Stop the run and pray that you dont give up too many big plays. Stonum, Odoms and the rest of the WR's should have one on one's. IMHO, only way to stop Denard is blitz from everywhere and pray that he doesnt beat you deep.
Stopping the run might be tougher with that strategy than you think. When we go five-wide, we've got five receivers traipsing through their second level; if you go man to man (five hats on five receivers), the most you can blitz with is six.
With 5 OL, one of the blitzers will come unblocked. If Denard escapes the blitzer (not terribly unrealistic), and the OL holds its own at the point of attack, Denard could be gashing giant gains all day. Not to mention you have five receivers in man coverage with no deep safety and a quarterback who can buy precious seconds to throw in a scramble.
Yep, this pretty much tells you what you already know: stopping Denard can be done, but doing it consistently with any one strategy is nearly impossible at the college level.
Good point. The pressure on the D is enormous. Its that old line, you cant stop him, hope to contain him. You know you will give up some big plays, but maybe shut him down in the beginning and score alot and make him one dimensional.
Win the battle at the line consistently and keep the ball in front of you so you don't give up the big play.
Look, this is a great offense with a great player running it so not every team is going to be able to go out and stop it. The best part of this offense is that "tricks" or "scheme" aren't really going to beat it. You have to soundly win match-ups upfront to have a chance. If you blitz too heavily or drop too many in coverage, there are too many good options to take advantage. ND did a decent job, but came up short primarily with their safety play. I'll be interested to see how this offense does against Iowa, Wisconsin, PSU, and OSU since those defensive units might have the horsepower needed to stop Michigan.
Before every snap, the nose tackle should take the ball and throw it into the stands. Eventually, the umpire would run out of game balls. Although, that would merely delay the game, but if they kept calling that defensive play, they could delay it indefinitely. However, this strategy would only work for the home team - in Michigan Stadium the fans would catch on and start throwing the balls back to the field so the forfeit strategy would work best for visiting teams.
that even Einhorn would be proud of.
shriveled up, sorry excuse for a middle toe. Get that thing some moisturizer!
As long as I can match him score for score, I'd let him break a couple of 80+ runs and hope he gets tired. If he begins to slow down it will be easier to stop him late in the game. That being said if I can't match him or it doesn't slow him down late, he would have had a record day against me. When he plays fast not just runs fast and they all block like they should you can't stop or o.
Is that you?
It looked to me in the 2nd Half ND was blitzing its back side LB (#58 I think ) and then stunting their D-line toward the blitzing LB, thus trying to funnel D-Rob. Though UM didn't score until the last drive, this seemed to work OK for ND. Then, we UM did get yardage, they killed themselves with holding calls and other stupid penalties.
The main idea for any defense is contain, don't let anyone behind you, don't fall for tricks, and learn to tackle. I love the option pass plays - the Roy TD, and Odoms to the 1, just like TRob's catch on the pump fake vs. UConn.
Yes, Denard has a ton of offensive production, the key is his reads - we are simiply taking what a defense will give us and getting 5+ yards a play.
My biggest concern is are we giving away the snap count and cadance? At State last year they were on it, and ND kept shifting when Denard would lift his leg....
I think you are right, but what do I know. It seemed like he was slowed down. But, it seems like he has most of the short throws and reads down and can even get the intermediate throws as well. It seems the only thing Denard doesnt have down is the deep throw. Although, he didnt throw deep that much, there was a stretch that he threw deep and over threw, maybe the WR was well covered. You may give up a big play on the deep pass, but I rather that than him beating you on the ground, because he will. Once he develops the deep throw, I would think there is now way to stop him.
(which I do believe he does have, if he doesn't have a linebacker in his grill)....is that we methodically march down the field and eat the heck out of the timeclock. This keeps our Defense fresh and on the sidelines more of the game (unlike last year).
All we need is to average 4 ypc to keep moving the chains.
VS Uconn - first half passing yards = 7, 16, 5, 16, 4, 16, 4 = 68 (9.7 ypc ave)
VS ND - first half passing yards = 7, 31, 9, 10, 32, 21 = 110 (18.3 ypc ave)
This shows a good mix of positive yardage, and a nice improvement from week one to week two (against a better Defense as well).
The deep ball is coming. Be patient and.......wait for it.
Thanks, I also think the deep pass will come as he gains more experience. Still, the deep pass requires our WR to beat guys and this may give opposing teams the best chance. Thanks to COB further down the board, I read about the scrape exchange, which seems to work better, but nothing is full proof. I just think you blitz, fill the gaps with as many people as possible to take away the runs and pray that Denard over or under throws. You will get burned a couple of times, but hopefully not enough. Anyway you look at it, I dont think I have ever looked so forward to Saturdays. Even gave up golf to not miss any games.
The whole snap count thing was bothersome. The good news this year is that the MSU game is at home, so it should be quiet enough while Denard is calling plays, etc. that he shouldn't need the leg signal.
wait wait i see whats going on here. Nice try saban but you cant fool me and we're not telling. Someone close this thread.
Opposing Defensive Cordinator, "Can I use 12 men?"
Opposing DC, "Shit. That was the best thing I came up with."
Unless a team has big time personnel in the front seven to whip our line, I read that they almost have to give up on their normal base defense, go with more dbs, and do man on the outside. Leaves more guys to attack the line and create havoc.
I guess they would take everyone else and just try to overwhelm the running lanes along the line?
We'd annhilate teams that tried that through the air, but so far the ground is clearly our strength. Death by guillotine, lethal injection or hanging?
The teams that will really do better against us are the ones with butt kickers in the front 7.
Pray while listening to the M.C. Hammer song, "You've got to pray just to make it today". The combined forces may help. Or not.
the first time they get Denard on the ground, about 8 players pile on top and writhe around. that will provide cover for "stickers" to pull needles out and inject Denard with a dilithium neutralizer and sedative.....
All a scrape exchange is going to do this year is give Denard the option of cutting back into the mammoth holes the line has been producing or going one on one with a linebacker. I will take Denard on that matchup nine out of ten times. Teams are going to have to have their fastest nickel back in the game at all times to "spy" on Denard. That, of course, will help create other mismatches.
Personally, I think there is no stopping this offense with Denard. I recommend hoping for divine intervention, but on Saturday, Touchdown Jesus and the prayers of every Catholic in the country (except those from Ann Arbor or UM) couldn't stop Denard.
If the defense can find a way to become even average against the "big boys," there isn't any team on the schedule that Michigan can't beat this year. This is not a prediction of 13-0, but I think they will surprise a couple of teams this year. I hope one of them is in Columbus.
There is a counterpunch to the scrape exchange, which we've used already. Bring an H-back in the backfield and have him take the scraping LB.
the Waterboy. No other alternatives. Only a well disguised drop kick will slow him down, but that is all it will do.
Denard is playing ---na na na na na na Can't touch this.
Personally, I'd just change all my player ratings to 99's across the board and cross my fingers.
Your only hope.
If Trevor Matich knew how to stop Denard then he would probably have a different job other then sitting in a chair reading from a teleprompter stats that have been already been prepared for him by ESPN nerds. Matich -- You don't know anything, you have never done anything, therefore your opinions do not matter.
I wish I could set my television to automatically mute the more noxious of ESPN analyst and reporters.
if i had solid corners and safeties, i'd man up on the receivers, bring everyone else up and force him to throw the ball. i would never have my DE crack down on the tb and give denard a chance to blow up. i would take my chances that the tailbacks could be contained.
fortunately i don't know how many schools have this type of talent-tOSU probably but who else?