You only live once....
How safe are Michigan football games?
You're James Bond.
Or a cat.
in fear is a life half lived. I'll be damned if I'm not going to UTL part deux because I "think" there might be a chance I get blown up. And hey, what better way to go than in the Big House?
agree the stadium may be secure but the large areas around the stadium are not possible to secure.
be vigilent but choose to live free and not in fear.
True, but I don't like the op sharing stories about his weirdo uncle sneaking stuff through the gate. you never know what kind of weirdo is reading this blog getting ideas. for all j know the op could be a terrorist plotting
If it alleviates any concern, I'm not? And if I was, sharing my secrets would make me the worst terrorist in the world. As would spending so much time here.
I think about that when crossing at Main And Stadium where there can be several thousand people at the busiest times. But its not going to make me go a different route now.
I really don't understand the irrational fear people have of terrorists / crazy gunmen. The chances of you being hurt by either of those is miniscule. Obviously, preventative measures should be used to try to prevent terrorism, but I hate that people actually change their lives to suit their stupid fears. Buying your children bulletproof backpacks? I'm amazed by the idiocy.
How many people die driving to college football games every year? Five, ten, twenty? How many Americans have been killed by terrorists in the US from 2001 to now? Twenty? If everyone wore their seatbelts while driving, more lives would probably be saved than implementing every safety measure possible.
Don't let the media scare you. They're doing as good a job, if not better, than the terrorists of convincing Americans to be afraid of everything.
at the Big House at UTL. Thank God the police was there to stop anyone from seriously being injured.
Apparently, someone dressed in ND gear injested large amounts of a toxic drug and tried to smuggle this into the stadium. I was directly behind this guy and his girl.
The guy was stopped before entering so he unleased his posion and sprayed as many people as he could. There were large objects being hurled through the air. I could have been killed myself. There was some bits of corn, chucks of potatoe chips, and gallons of the poision the was made from barely and hopps, then topped off with yeast.
I was so lucky not to get hit by shrapnel. However, I was a hero to my woman and saved her from any harm. This caused a chain reaction and other terrorists started to hurl their poison as well. The smell was aweful.
I will not be detered. I will not allow terrorist to win. I will sacrifice myself if I have to. This is Michigan. I am MgoSoftball and I am Michigan Man. I will protect everyone.
No, because if someone wants to kill hundreds, thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of people, it wouldn't be hard to do.
The world isn't offering any more risks than in the past, crime has been dropping for centuries, you're fabulously safe, and life expectancies are at record highs.
TL;DR - You're about a million times more likely to die from a car accident our your own self-inflicted diet than any type of attack or murder, so stop worrying.
Seriously, if you are not risk-averse enough to get in a car and drive to the stadium, then you should not care about whether or not the stadium is safe. Hell, there is a greater chance that you are going to get hit by a lightning than dying from a terrorist attack. Worrying about it is pretty pointless. It is almost like worrying about Kate Upton asking you out.
(1) Why would you worry about, as opposed to hoping that Kate Upton will ask you out? (2) I guess I should be really worried about my safety at games because Kate Upton is totally going to ask me out in the future, and nothing you can say or do will convince me otherwise.
Listen, if someone wants to blow up a ton of people, they can find a way to do it. Security is a good thing, don't get me wrong, but terrorism isn't hard if you have all the materials.
Or, you know, a Hummer with a brush guard to drive down any crowded street/shopping area/outdoor mall/football game.
Why anyone thinks that making things a hassle will prevent a criminal from doing criminal things is beyond me.
It's increased awareness of a minimal threat. How many sports events have had a problem? Or public gatherings in general?
Ehh if im gonna die better to die at the big house on a saturday afternoon watchin the wolverines than doing anything else!
No but seriously i do feel safe. Security is on every gate plus they do look at you and everything your carrying and they check your bags if u bring one into the stadium same with Crisler
I think you had it right the first time. You have to go sometime. What better way?
banging a babe during a game?
There's no need for a topic like this on the board. Regardless, there is plenty of security and even snipers at the stadium and you can't so much as carry a purse into the game. The stadium has been safe and secure for a very very long time and will continue to be. We can't let on unfortunate event create irrational paranoia.
Did you forget to get laid today?
Snipers on the roof of the press boxes have always made me more nervous. They have them there for some if not all of the games though.
here a minute. Is this common knowledge? There are snipers at every game? I've been to a bajillion games (round number) and I've never seen/heard/known this. This isn't some urban legend? I feel I've used my ? key too much in this post.
Confirmed: there are always snipers on roof of the press box/suites at each corner. They've been posted there since the new structures went up.
that about 3 years ago, a national guardsman who didn't want to pay to get in showed up in uniform with an M-16 and was allowed on the field before anyone figured out he wasn't supposed to be there.
Well, hypothetically, no you couldn't say that. I guess someone else could say it for you, though.
If I stop going to Michigan games, the terrorists most certainly and completely have won.
Just like Kyle Broflovski convincing the Family Guy staff to air the episode showing Muhammad
Always thought this was a ridiculous movie until I sat down and watched it once. Pretty good. All about the buildup to the event really.
Notre Dame Stadium, or Ohio Stadium, or Beaver Stadium, or .......
Security is pretty darn good at all these stadiums, but it's not perfect. Unfortunately, it's tough to bat 100% in this respect (something could have happened at the K-State @ Oklahoma game on October 1st, 2005).
(I'll see myself out.)
"Stadiums" is more common in English. When I hear "stadia" I think unit of measurement.
I dunno man, Ohio Stadium and Spartan Stadium don't look very safe in this video:
Will take your tickets.
To be fair, I am not concerned enough to even debate not going. Just posing a question, one that has been answered pretty resoundingly. I still stick by my speculation, as I won't walk back my thoughts because they are unpopular. I also won't play the martyr and post about this topic in every thread from here to eternity, either. Never knew about the snipers though, that is pretty cool.
On second thought, martyr was a poor choice of words...
There's lots of securety, both visible and tucked away. If someone was diabolical enough they could find a way to make it into an ugly scene, but that's true anywhere that isn't a layered military fortress. While you could turn Michigan Standium into one of those (probably) it would be ugly and it would take all of Friday to get the fans in there and all of Sunday to get them out.
Ultimately I must just default to Benjamin Franklin who once said "those who sacrific liberty for security deserve neither". While that's a bit severe, I think the moral of the story is to seize the day. If fear can drag you away from what you love, you've already lost it.
...one of American's finest Libertarians! Always did love that quote.
Why do people consistently fail to examine probabilities when evaluating risk? It's annoying. Even if you were at the Boston Marathon when the explosion happened, your chances of being killed or injured were pretty damn small. This is a silly concern.
One time, I saw someone get tackled.
Your visit must've been during the GERG years.
Naturally you're going to take a risk by going to big sporting events, whether that risk comes in the form of drunken idiots running their mouth off at you or, God forbid, an attack much like we saw in Boston. But you can't let that fear drive you away from going to the games. Honestly, the odds of something happening within the stadium are minimal. You can't even bring a purse into the stadium. Outside the stadium, though, anything goes.
This phrase gets thrown around jokingly a lot, but it truly applies here. If you let something as simple as this prevent you from going to football games and cheering on your team, the terrorists win. Sick freaks like that want you to live in fear. But if you don't want your tickets anymore, let me know. I'll be happy to take them off your hands. If I'm going to die, I'll die happy watching a Michigan football game.
In a camelbak, on my back, then anything is possible. But really, it's the last thing I worry about, especially with the snipers on the towers during the games.
Eh the snipers are mostly for show. If anyone actually tried to carry out an attack, there is no way the snipers would have enough time to react.
Terrorism is intended to scare you. If you let it scare you away from doing things you love, then you let them win.
I've been on Boylston Street at the Boston Marathon before (2 years ago) cheering on a family member. I'm not going to let the terrorists scare me away from going back. In fact, I'm more motivated to go back to prove the terrorists wrong (and hopefully some day I can run the damn thing myself).
Not safe at all. You shouldn't go to another Michigan game and should give me your tickets instead.
But seriously, anyone who worries about terrorism has no grasp of statistics. Your chances of dying due to terrorism pales in comparison to the chance of dying from a car accident, or drowning, or foodborn illness. Worrying about terrorism is pointless and is giving in. The media blows so many things out of proportion for viewership and money that stupid people buy into. Children are probably safer today if they are allowed to leave their house alone than they were 50 years ago, yet today no one lets their children out of their sight. Stop falling for this shit, no need to live life always looking over your shoulder.
Whoops, meant to reply to OP
There is nothing in life that IS safe. The only time I feared for my life at a game was when a commercial plane flew over The Big House in 2011. That scared the hell out of me seeing a random plane fly over it.
Asperger's Syndrome will be eliminated as a separate clinical disorder in DSM-5 and merged under the autism spectrum disorders. Just thought the OP should know.
As for security at Michigan Stadium, I have on multiple occasions seen women not allowed to enter Michigan Stadium with large purses. After 9/11, security inside the Big House has been beefed up especially compared to other sporting venues. There are always going to be people who slip through the cracks, but compared to pre-9/11, the difference is night and day.
...when I die, I would want my ashes spread across the Michigan Stadium field. If some terrorist or lone wolf wack job wants start some shit, so be it. They will likely help accomplish my one dying wish. That way, the terrorist definitely do NOT win.
Bane's gone, shouldn't have to worry about football stadiums
More night games means a higher likelihood that Batman is patrolling our shadows.
A couple years ago there was this freak occurrence. Hopefully, stadium security has stiffened since then.
However, I'm not one to live in fear. I won't let those cowards dictate what I do and where I go.
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....about 12 years ago. Right after 911, all eyes were on Michigan Stadium since it would be housing the largest event since the 911 attacks. IIRC, we didn't even postpone the game. We walked on the field 5 days after 911, played Western, beat them like we would have done any other Saturday, and life goes on.
Is right; that was much more concerning.
But the game was postponed; we didn't play Western till the 22nd. An emotional day at that game.
when I think of michigan stadium I first think of how crazy it was when woodson returned the punt against OSU.
The second thing i think of is the moment of silence for the game after 9/11. I doubt anyone who was there that day doesn't think about it at least during the season every year...
And maybe the loudest national anthem I've ever heard too.
But aside from the sub-human spartan trash that overran campus during the Rodriguez years,...It's there or the bathtub man. If its my time, I guess I'd rather go out in the big house.
OP, First off, it's Asperger's Syndrome, named after Dr. Hans Asperger who discovered the diagnosis and most recently folded into the diagnostic criteria for Autism in the most recent revision of the DSM. It used to be it's own illness. I'm sure your relative is an interesting individual with a series of unique, sterotypical special interests and perhaps some social interactive difficulties.
Regardless of illness status, however, you probably should support the guy not to be smuggling items into the stadium. It's dangerous and if he gets caught you'll lose your seat access. Given the situation at Boston and the fact that we all know Dave Brandon creeps the MGoBlog threads then you know this sort of thing will somehow be monitored over the coming year.
FWIW, I find downtowns in most big cities a more immediate threat than showing up in Ann Arbor, parking, eating breakfast at Zingerman's and then walking down to the stadium.
It's only unsafe when people ask questions like this.
but why worry.
Get a good buzz going and there's nothing to fear. Not even fear itself.
The terrorists won the day they banned marshmallows.
You win the thread.
If I'm gonna die and it's not from having sex, let it be watching Michigan football. Preferably the last seconds of a blowout national championship game in 40-50 years
Why not die from both at the same time?
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Woa I had no idea there were snipers on top of the stadium. There has to be some times they get totally enthralled with watching the game and not security though right? I mean come on, I dare you to find one person that didn't have their eyes glued in the fourth quarter of the UTL game
at every home game as they walk past me in the hallway of the 5th floor suites on the east side (i'm a server in the suites) to get to the stair well to get up to the top.
every friday night during the season the ann arbor cops show up with the dogs to do a complete sweep of the stadium for bombs. The dogs are also back in the morning of the games.
also home land security has been trying to get the universtiy and ann arbor to shut down stadium and main on game days since 9-11 happened and its only happened once and that was for the UTL game.
There is risk everywhere. You either assume it or you don't. I'm way more concerned about drunk drivers on game day than I am an act of terror, but if someone wants to commit a heinous act, particularly if they are willing to die in its commission, it is very hard to stop.
Michigan Stadium is as vulnerable as any other facility where thousands congregate. How many food trucks come into the stadium? How far is the Big House from Ann Arbor Airport, to say nothing of the planes that fly around all day with banners trailing behind them? How dense are the crowds trying to get into the stadium shortly before a game starts?
I worry way more about someone tearing an ACL.
The OP's reaction equals a win for the terrorists.
It's ok, I have several Horcrux's just in case of this very thing.
If it did happen, I would hope that all who died got a special place in Football Valhalla next to Bo and Ufe.
Must you be a Viking to go to Valhalla?
Also I wish I could bring my purse :(
Statistically, you have a higher risk of having a stroke while masturbating,(1:125,000) than from a terrorist attack, (1:1,700,000). But, I doubt that will stopp anyone.
Also, 87% of all statistics are made up.
Maybe I suck at statistics but one out of every 125,000 time you masturbate you SHOULD die? I don't believe it. I have to have wacked off at least 375,000 times and I'm still here...
Damn, why did you have to state that? I've got a date with Miss Michigan tonight and now I'm getting nervous.
I'm part irish, hell a lot of people are irish. just doesnt make sense to me, lets mock the fighting irish because of a famine that happened in ireland and people suffered from.
In spite of his condition, he is a racist fuck. His family should be ashamed for not controlling that.
Your uncle really did that? The Irish Potato Famine? Creative taunt, I'll give him that.
because it's a very legitimate question. Michigan stadium is the largest stadium in the US for a sport that sees millions of people attend around the country every Saturday. I think it's a fairly obvious target for terrorists, don't you?
There's security there sure, but I've snuck a potbelly's sandwich in before and I know people get water bottles, fifths, etc in. It wouldn't be that hard to get some kind of IED in there. I am decently concerned
I agree Red, this is a legit conversation. I understand that the odds of dying in a terrorist attack are miniscule, but these stats are talking about day-to-day life. If you try to think like a terrorist (which is impossible for us Americans) a major sporting event seems like an obvious target. High concentration of people, likely national television, and would have a major impact on our lives if we no longer felt safe at sporting events. I feel fairly confident about security during the games, but what's to prevent someone from placing some sort of bomb the night before? I'd hope they'd do a sweep of the stadium the morning of the games, but I have no idea if they do. I do think there are other stadiums that are better targets because 75% of Michigan stadium in underground.
I don't think the OP should just be brushed aside as a tin foil hat paranoid. It is a legit issue that is hopefully being taken very seriously (and it appears it is). I rather enjoy my life and hope to have a lot of it left and don't want to consistently put myself in perilious situations for the sake of "YOLO." All that being said, I certainly plan to be at every game this fall, so YOLO it is.
you can't stand on top of a lightning rod in a thunderstorm and say "There's a 1 in a million chance of dying in a thunderstorm! Whats the big deal?!"
Likewise, you cant go to the largest stadium in America and say "Theres a 1 in a million chance of being killed by a terrorist! Whats the big deal?!" because the odds aren't even everywhere. You're more likely to get killed by a terrorist at nationally recognizable places and Michigan Stadium is one of those places
You and I are on the same page
Are still dwarfed by the odds of getting killed driving to the stadium. My recommendation is to stay home and wrap yourself in bubble wrap, since the odds of getting killed in an accident in your house also far outweigh the odds of getting killed by a terrorist.
This could once again hinder intragame drinking, with the idea that there will possibly be tighter pat downs.
I think the security is interesting to think about. On the one hand, there are lots of rules - no bags, etc. - but it's really really easy to get around those rules. I've been with multiple people who have put sizable bags under their coats and gone in a busy gate, and there is no second look. If you wanted to get something in, it's pretty easy. On the other hand, last year I was in the student section behind a guy that was sitting with his head in his hands for the 3rd quarter, while the rest of us stood, and he appeared to be alone. He wasn't noteable for any other reason. Midway through the quarter, two police officers came to talk to him, ask for his ID, etc. How he was identified among the thousands of people, I have no idea, but they have some way of detecting abberant behavior. FWIW, I think he had a fight with his girlfriend, and wasn't a terrorist - I saw him at a later game, standing and cheering with her.
It is interesting to put this in contrast to going to any concert where you can expect the full pat down.
I get that people are nervous, but just for perspective far more people will likely be killed by a fertilizer plant's explosion in the west of Texas than will this attack. I am not making light of either tragedy, but I just want to point out that horrible things can happen anywhere, at any time, for any reason. Going to a football game is a very safe event, but obviously there are risks beyond terrorism and accidents. You can't live your life in a bubble.
If you are too worried to go to a football game, a baseball game, a concert..etc the bad people win.
We win from not letting these attacks change the way we live.
How safe is the Super Bowl? It's the most-watched event in the United States every year. If terrorists are going to target a sporting event, I'm sure it's high on their list. But that's also why it has crazy levels of security. Terrorists, as a rule, go for "soft" targets.
As others have pointed out, it would be easier for a terrorist to kill people outside than inside a stadium, though if a terrorist were able to get people to panic, with say several small explosives, there would be a possibility of death and injuries due to people stampeding.
There was a case at the Universit of Oklahoma in 2005 where a guy suffering from depression and mental illness set off a bomb and killed himself outside the OU football stadium just before halftime at the Kansas football game. Spectators weren't allowed to leave the stadium at half time and latert there were announcements over the PA that advised people that certain exits to the stadium were closed, and to avoid the area of campus where the guy killed himself but no mention about a bomb was made, out of fear of creating panic.