If I ever learned anything from Mick, it's that to gain speed, you've got to chase chickens in the yard.
How MSU is prepping for Denard
Odoms and the rest of Pahokee nation says you gain speed by catching jackrabbits
chicken in the yard or a jackrabbit in the field, the key is to CATCH it--then you know you're fast.
All of our animals are fast. Armadillos, opossums, rabbits; hell, even our turtles have dredlocks and haul ass... BTW, catching a jackrabbit is damn impressive. Anyone from the muck who catches 1 should be instantly mailed a scholarship from UM.
Provided they meet the academic requirements
I'm from Florida and I've caught an armadillo before... I will be the first to say that I should not be on scholarship for football at U of M.
The Kansas City Chiefs once prepared for Barry Sanders by bringing live Chickens to practice to catch.
Although it tends to make you feel like a Kentucky fried idiot.....
i was sure that Keshawn (sp?) Martin (?) was by far their fastest player. On that kickoff return for a TD, he actually did look really fast. Maybe not Denard fast, but he sure doesn't give up much.
EDIT: 6'0", 180 coming out of HS. A FAKE 40 time of 4.4 per rivals. Either way, he is fast.
They're not going to risk injuring him on the scout team.
Who would ever sacrafice one player for the good of the team?
Sarcasm Meter. Hopefully High.
but they aren't going to have a starter sacrifice time with the 1's to go with the scout team. If there ever was an exception though, it would be this.
Sucks that this guy was in class of 2008 and not 2009. Carr didn't recruit him for the pre-RR portion of the 2008 class b/c he didn't fit the pro-style offense.
Due to his low recruiting profile (2 star recruit, Illinois only other offer) and the new staff's relative lack of familiarity with Michigan HS football they would not have known about him. Plus they were busy going after Pryor, Shaw, Roundtree, Odoms, Barnum, etc.
It would have been nice if the staff had known about this guy though; he would be a perfect addition to our stable of slot receivers. He seems very tough and hard to bring down; I almost want to say he's a faster version of Odoms. He would've definitely been another uncut diamond that this staff was able to uncover. Instead, he is stuck being misused in MSU's pro-style offense.
I'm very happy with our WRs btw. I just like being greedy.
is that martin didn't start to get looked at by schools until his coach sent tape out to every coach in the big ten and mac... plus his HS team his senior year wasn't very good so he didn't put up crazy numbers... i also believe that grades could have been a big issue with him at one point so that would scare schools off also...
Denard is one in a million and cannot be replicated !!! Think you can stop him ... think again !! Total QB - can beat you with his legs or his arm, and he doesn't care which he uses !!!
Go Blue !
You don't prepare for Denard.
You *can't* prepare for denard
You CAN NOT simulate speed.
You get Denarded
is like trying to prepare for surgery by playing operation...
No matter how realistic it might seem, theres no such thing as the real deal.
I would love to see Denard rip off a 60+ yard run in the first half against Sparty. I agree with you they cannot fully prep for him. But I do wonder if defenses can adjust as the game goes on to his speed to stop the big run. If he continues to gash defenses early (like IU and ND), I would stick with this theory. Hopefully they don't! Or if they do, more deep passes to our stellar WRs.
Im guessing that the only real way to "adjust" to denards speed is to have either a S or a Mike shadow him.. either way, your taking a player out of th middle of your defense.
Now what this effectively does, at least with our current H-back set and 3 wide (assuming Z is left) is in man coverage, you have.
2 WRs: 1CB/S or 2CB
1 WR: 1CB
That effectively leaves 1 deep safety to cover 3 reciever threats, and there is still a hat for a hat in the box (6 blockers: 4 DL and 2 LBs)
So, from here, the quesiton is "play action or zone read"
Ill take shaw running with 6 blockers for 6 tacklers in the box all day every day.
Ill take our WRs 1v1 with no deep help all day every day.
and a wizard hat.
You got that straight!
Wonder if they are practicing take cheap shots on him too. You know, to fully prepare.
They don't need to practice cheap shots, they've got that down already. Zing!
But now, at this moment I am reminded of this:
Ohio State's Reynolds on bench after Badger choke
They can do what ever the hell they want to mimic denard, nothing they do is gonna mimic his speed, or agility sorry.. It's the reason why denard is breaking records no one else ever has, cause there is NO one like him to ever play QB in the nation
This always makes me laugh - I remember when the Lakers used Tyronn Lue to "simulate" Allen Iverson in practice before they met in the Finals, as if having a guy with approximate size and in-the-ballpark speed really prepares a team for the leading rusher AND yard gainer in the NCAA. I'm sure that MSU will say they are ready for Denard, but the first time he flies past a LB on the way to a 40-yard gain, they'll realize how impossible it is to prepare for a player like Denard. Of course, if "preparation" is just a code word for practicing taking shots at Denard and stepping on his ankle, then I see why they chose a little-used backup.
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Denard's speed and agility isn't what makes him so incredibly effective and impossible to prepare for. He had both of those attributes last year. What makes him impossible to prepare for is his speed at making correct reads and decisions--his understanding of the system. Denard makes it looks so easy because right now, if you cheat even just a little bit, he'll quickly see it and execute another option. Those plays where he runs towards the line of scrimmage and decides to throw at the last second are prime examples. Unless you can mimic the entire offense of all 11 men being exactly where they are supposed to be to exploit a weakness... you can't prepare.
Oppenent's cheating punishment: facing a fiery death of consistently getting demolished 50+ yards at a time.
It would probably be downright comical watching this WR and his scout-team buds trying to run an offense that requires the QB to make multiple reads at every snap. I'm sure they'll get it down in one week's time.
I thought they'd search for their own Dilithium...
onto a picture of helpless Spartans
The Spartans pictured look concerned/confused...was there a cop car siren blaring when this was taken?
Their LB's are practicing "Repeat after me, 'Holy !%$, is that guy fast!!'. Let's hope Denard's practicing how to avoid their cheapshots.
But you're not fooling us Keshawn
that Martin is not being the Denard decoy
Well looks like you got the attention of the RCMB
Honestly it doesn't take much more than a shiny object to get their attention.
Same with fish and women.
Maybe they have just sucked for so long that they forgot what it's like to actually have success.
when did MSU last win a Big 10 championship? when was the last time MSU went to the rose bowl? when was the last time MSU actually won more than 2 in a row against us? oh yeah it was 1988, 1990, and 1965-1967 respectively. and for us? it was 2004, 2006, and 2005-2007 so i mean who has
...sucked for so long that they forgot what it's like to actually have success
that would be MSU, because now they think success is winning 7 games and beating Michigan. keep livin the dream state
They were 6-7 last year. A losing record. And they're on top of the world. AbFab
when did MSU last win a Big 10 championship? when was the last time MSU went to the rose bowl? when was the last time MSU actually won more than 2 in a row against us? oh yeah it was 1988, 1990
You're too kind - their last trip to the Rose Bowl was in 1987.
According to them, we are little brother now. Someone should tell them to win a big ten title in my lifetime. I'm in grad school now. I guess they are just waiting for the right moment.
Everytime I read RCMB I have a hard time reminding myself that I'm not on the ESPN message boards. That blog (or whatever you want to call it) is atrocious.
Ow. I read some. My IQ plummeted like the temperature when the dead would visit Haley Joel Osment in the Sixth Sense.
Chuck Norris couldn't stop Denard
Nice Chuck Norris reference! That made my day!
No way a scout team can simulate game speed of Robinson. I love the way he sucks up safeties and hits Roundtree in the slot for an easy TD or sprints for 70 yd. TDs. Which poison does Sparty want to drink?
Trying to prepare for Denard is like trying to stop the sun from rising. It's just not happening.
I say let them focus on stopping Denard. Last I checked, football was a team sport and if you focus too much on one player there are other players that will burn you just as easy. I mean they focus on stopping his running game, it opens up his passing game or other players for the run. It also opens up having him do fake runs to get the defense to bite.
I think they are making labatomy appts for monday morning so they can forget about this coming saturday.
You don't prepare for Denard, Denard prepares for you.
That Denard was from former Soviet Union.
They haven't faced an offensive line as agile,skilled, tough and pissed off as Michigan's either. Another element they didn't have to deal with last year either. That's a lot of prep work for one week.
They could just get an F-16 to fly around the field.
Not fast enough...Maybe an SR-71...:)
I was expecting something like this:
I hear Dantonio is already having the timekeeper practice for when Denard plays there next year. The clock will run at ludicrous speed to ensure #16 has only a few possessions.
Who wants to bet that MSU gets a personal foul for late hitting Denard after a run? I will offer 5:1 odds.
I would take it if you can assure me that the MAC officials that showed up for the BG game won't be here. Man, those officials were awful.
MSU will hit late and twist ankles on every play, just like they always do against Michigan, until they are called for it a few times.
They might find the thirteen man defense some help, but I doubt it.
UPDATE: ESPN Bottom line is reporting Dantonio is going to be at the game, but in the Press Box.
I'm guessing if he can find away on that sideline, he'll sneak down.
Good luck with that, fellas.
If I was Dantonio, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near Denard Robinson in the condition he's in.
I'm pretty sure that everybody on the opposing team shits their pants when Denard crosses the line of scrimmage.
I bet his doctor strongly advised that he stay the hell away from The Big House on Saturday.
The number of teams that prepared for Denard...
How'd that work out?
"Denard is one in a million and cannot be replicated !!! Think you can stop him ... think again !! Total QB - can beat you with his legs or his arm, and he doesn't care which he uses !!!"
Response: "Oh really. So Michael Vick, Vince Young, and Pat White were just figments of our imaginations? gotcha, keep on with this whole act slappies."
They've got a point. You guys remember Michael Vick, Vince Young, and Pat White all played MSU and were held in check? Yeah, me neither. I will admit that MSU does a pretty good job of beating up on strawmen, though.
you can catch Denard!
You're as useless as a poopy flavored lollipop!
I saw one of the super genius's* on ESPN College Football describe how everyone can easily stop Denard by coming to him instead of waiting for him - the same way ND stopped him in the 2nd half. How will we survive?
In other related news, The Experts might be the worst sports show I've ever seen, but I happened to tune in when they were talking about MSU-UoM so I watched. Its amazing what a great father figure and clean program Dantonio has been running, according to The Experts Not to be callous, but I don't recall much media attention outside Mich for all the arrests, but I'm sure there will be less to none now that he had a heart attack. Furthermore, these experts suggested another way to stop DRob that I'm sure no one has tried - shadow him with a linebacker. Good luck there fellas!
I don't care about strength of schedule or any of that crap. I ALWAYS root against MSU, all season. OSU may be our biggest rivalry, but I hate MSU and their fans the most by far!
* Indicates sarcasm.
Michigan State is using wide reciever Tony Lippett (who?) to emulate Denard Robinson in practice this week.
Does he has dreads? If not, he cannot emulate Denard.
Does he have that PRedator cloaking device too?
the segment on BigTen Network about how MSU can stop Denard?
It wasn't a bad bit of analysis (as if I'd recognize it).
Talked about Notre Dame sending blitzers to pressure Denard to accomplish 2 things:
1. Make him evade tacklers in the backfield where his lateral movement is limited, which will keep him from getting up to speed by the time he's at the line of scrimmage (allowing pursuit to catch him).
2. Pressure him on throws to make him throw either too soon, or off balance.
It all sounded very insightful; except nowhere did they mention exactly how to avoid/overcome Michigan's blockers?
Which would leave our WR's one on one on bubble screens. I'll take that match-up (providing Roundtree doesn't get tackled on the 1, Do'h)
Edvard munch and a mirror
Denard is quantum. He exhibits both particle and wave properties. In fact, trying to tackle Denard is similar to Schrodinger's cat; the tackle "opens" the box and resolves Denard into either a tackled Denard or an untackled, not-present Denard. This of course means that Denard can be said to exist, in part, in an always untackled state.
about 4 times a game he exists in an untackled state in the end zone.
"Yes coach?" (in a feeble Sean Astin / Rudy voice)
"How would you like to be 1st string quarterback this week!"
"Sure! What do you want me to do first?"
"Put on this #16 blue jersey..."
"... and drink 5 red bulls, 4 cups of microwaved instant coffee, and shoot up some heroin."
Coach (to himself): we are soooo screwed.
MSU's prep involves playing film of Denard in slow motion so that he appears to be going at a normal speed. MSU also is preparing for Denard by sucking their thumbs and rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
they're preparing like this: Kirk Cousins is on a motorcycle... still not quite fast enough, but its the best they can do.
I know this is just hearsay, and far from actual, substantial "reporting" but my gf goes to msu and a football player in her class (one whom she could not identify, unfortunately) said (and this may or may not come as a surprise to anyone -- it just made my stomach churn when I heard it) "Denard is their only good player (ha), our goal for the game is to injure him" I lost sleep the night she told me this...It just makes me hate them so much more...he proceeded to say: "I'm gonna call it right now, msu is gonna win all 4 years that I'm here" ...fuck this guy...I hope we beat them so fucking badly -- It's humorous to me how good that they think they are...Soooooooo overconfident -- but what else is new? Even in the years that they go 2-10 they still think they are the shit, for some reason...
I know this is probably a stupid post, but I had to say it...I feel much better now
Denard cannot be prepared for or stopped without opening up other aspects of our offense. Anyone proposing a magic bullet theory is an idiot. Denard is a balanced offense in and of himself. A single spy would never work to contain his run--no one matches his speed and we have excellent lineman who can block downfield. All you could really do is blitz contain with a couple guys...leaving them 11 on 9 or opening up a run up the middle, which Denard has no problem going for 6. Stopping Denard's running ability just means he will throw for 300-400 yards and murder you downfield. He's not one dimensional and simple theories to stop him are absurd.
The offense only sputters when he makes a poor read or makes an errant throw. That's all opposing defenses can hope for. When he runs the offense correctly it cannot be stopped.
We have two more years of this. He will only get better, playing faster mentally and physically. Picture Denard, next year, with our schedule and veteran OL, WR, TE and RBs. It's going to be ridiculous.
I saw an X-Files episode where these teenagers would go in a cave and step into this light and it would make them have the ability to go faster than a bullet. They couldn't catch Denard.
I heard that they are working on controlling the clock too.
Two more thoughts:
- I can't wait to see Taylor Lewan in this game. His natural game hate + Sparty hate will have him road-grading people, and, unfortunately, probably getting flagged a few times.
- I think the full RR playbook comes out now. We've always heard it's been deployed only partially; if I had a guess, I would say he believes this is the most important game of his career, that this one dwarfs OSU at the end of the year. He's got two mandates: get Sparty back in their place this year and OSU next year in Ann Arbor. The kitchen sink will come out on Saturday.
The Spartans can prepare for Denard by getting out the record books so they can be rewritten. Otherwise, not much else they can do.