How Michigan can be Big Ten Co-Champs

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November 9th, 2010 at 10:59 PM
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Jeremy
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How Michigan can be Big Ten Co-Champs

This scenario is very unlikely to happen but you never know with college football!

 

AFAIK all the records are correct. Illinois plays Fresno State in Week 14 and I picked Illinois to win that.

 

Chart:

Team Current Week 11 Week 12 Week 13 Final Record
Ill 5-4 (3-3) Minnesota Northwestern Bye 8-4 (5-3) * #
Ind 4-5 (0-5) Wisconsin Penn State Purdue 6-6 (2-6)
Iowa 7-2 (4-1) Northwestern Ohio State Minnesota 8-4 (5-3) * #
Mich 6-3 (2-3) Purdue Wisconsin Ohio State 9-3 (5-3) *
MSU 9-1 (5-1) Bye Purdue Penn State 9-3 (5-3) *
Minn 1-9 (0-6) Illinois Bye Iowa 2-10 (1-7)
NW 6-3 (2-3) Iowa Illinois Wisconsin 7-5 (3-5)
OSU 8-1 (4-1) Penn State Iowa Michigan 9-3 (5-3) *
PSU 6-3 (3-2) Ohio State Indiana Michigan State 8-4 (5-3) * #
Pur 4-5 (2-3) Michigan Michigan State Indiana 5-7 (3-5)
Wisc 8-1 (4-1) Indiana Michigan Northwestern 9-3 (5-3) *

 

The Team listed in Bold for each week is the winner of the game, so if your teams row shows two bolded teams you will have lost two games. If you have no bolded games you won the rest of your games.

 

* Denotes Co-Champion of Big Ten based on Big Ten Record

# Denotes eliminated from Rose Bowl Selection by Tie Breaker rules.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:04 PM | So (Score:1)
UMAmaizinBlue
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You're saying there's a chance?!

 

[Sorry, I've never done that before and I couldn't resist.]

 

Anyway, Minn beating Iowa would be upset of the year in the Big 10, and probably has a 0.01% chance of happening in and of itself. I'm just happy to be bowling this year,and having the chance to get into a better bowl with each win. We can focus on a Big 10 Championship next year, IMO.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:08 PM | Cue embedded Dumb and Dumber (Score:1)
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Cue embedded Dumb and Dumber clip for anything giving Michigan a chance...

November 9th, 2010 at 11:25 PM | A couple years ago (Score:1)
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Michigan lost to App St and 90% of "fans" gave up the season as lost. A couple months later UM was playing for the Big Ten championship. I'm not saying I'd put money on the above scenario to play out like that, but I wouldn't be shocked for UM to win two more games. Michigan winning out wouldn't be the weirdest thing to happen in college football.

November 10th, 2010 at 12:05 AM | I'd be shocked if they won 2 (Score:1)
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I'd be shocked if they won 2 more games.  Nothing has changed with UM.  They still have a road game against a team that RR hasn't beaten yet followed by back to back games against top 10 teams.  

It's true - they have to play the games and UM has a chance, but, it would truly be shocking if they won either of their last 2 games on the schedule.  In fact, given the history of this team for the past 2.5 seasons, even beating Purdue on the road would be breaking new ground.

Man - the mood swings around here are crazy.  After losses, UM can't beat anyone.  After wins (even by the slimmest of margins) all of a sudden UM could win out.

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November 10th, 2010 at 7:38 AM | And I'd be shocked if you (Score:1)
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And I'd be shocked if you truly don't understand the dynamics of a fan blog.  The mood swings happen because we, as a fan base, live and die (not literally, mind you) with each win/loss.  It's the nature of the beast. 

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November 10th, 2010 at 8:31 AM | Walking out of Beaver Stadium (Score:1)
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Walking out of Beaver Stadium a week and a half ago, death seemed like a welcome option.

(1/2 kidding)

Athens, GA

November 10th, 2010 at 10:12 AM | Chevy needs a hug (Score:1)
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Talk about Debbie Downer.

"Bend over and I'll show you."  Perfect answer to nearly any question.

November 10th, 2010 at 10:36 AM | Seems to me that Michigan (Score:1)
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Seems to me that Michigan beat a better Wisconsin team a couple of years back...

November 10th, 2010 at 11:26 AM | beating Purdue on the road would be breaking new ground. (Score:1)
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Yep. It's amazing how far ahead of themselves people can get after one close win at home.

There's an old clinical term that's applicable to the Michigan fanbase: manic-depressive. I think it's been replaced by the more modern "bi-polar" but the old term more accurately captures the crazy swings in emotion around these parts.

If we lose to Purdue, the emotional high that resulted from the Illinois win will be instantly replaced by the crushing sense of doom that was present after the PSU game, with renewed howls for RR's/GERG's/Gibson's/etc's head to be planted on a pike outside the gates of Michigan Stadium.

If we win, we will have fans absolutely confident that we'll be in next year's NC game. Doubters will be labeled "pussies" and "Debbie Downers."


November 10th, 2010 at 11:45 AM | I agree with the general (Score:1)
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I agree with the general sense of what you are saying, but I don't think we'd be back to PSU. The difference would be that after PSU, we were seriously questioning whether we would make a bowl game or not. Now that we have our 6th win, losing to Purdue would be upsetting, but it wouldn't be as bad as after PSU.

November 10th, 2010 at 2:43 PM | Maybe for you, but not for (Score:1)
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Maybe for you, but not for me. The thought of no bowl game was what got to me.

November 10th, 2010 at 12:59 PM | Isn't that stating the obvious? (Score:1)
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I don't mean to sound dismissive, but isn't that simply stating the obvious?  People get excited about a win and down after a loss.  Excitement feeds optimism, depression feeds pessimism.  Some people ride the high of excitement even through a subsequent loss, others ride the depression even through a subsequent win.

EDIT:  Then again, reading what I just typed, I just stated the obvious too.  Touche to myself!

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November 10th, 2010 at 1:07 PM | I think his point is that (Score:1)
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I think his point is that after the PSU loss we were talking about losing the rest of our games. After the Illinois win, we are now talking about winning the rest of our games. If we lose to Purdue, we will be back to 0% chance at winning either of our last 2. Then, we beat Wisconsin, and all of a sudden people think we are going to beat OSU on the road? Those doing this are just setting themselves up for heartbreak when we lose to a team that is better than us.

Optimistic would be that we roll Purdue and compete against Wisconsin and OSU. Bi-polar is talking about possibly winning our last 3 games, when last week no one gave us a chance in any of them except maybe Purdue.

November 10th, 2010 at 10:10 AM | But it would be awesome (Score:1)
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Completely awesome.

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November 10th, 2010 at 9:46 AM | Hahaha that was actually on (Score:1)
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Hahaha that was actually on this weekend

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

November 10th, 2010 at 9:46 AM | Hahaha that was actually on (Score:1)
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Hahaha that was actually on this weekend

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:08 PM | . (Score:1)
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November 9th, 2010 at 11:14 PM | Well done -- knew it was (Score:1)
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Well done -- knew it was coming.

November 10th, 2010 at 9:08 AM | It's like... (Score:1)
MGoShoe
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...taking candy from a baby.

BTW, I'd like to congratulate MGoUser Jeremy for grabbing the vaunted position of Most Incredibly Optimistic Michigan Fan on the Interwebs (MIOMFOTI) with both hands and running with it.  This was an especially high quality effort.

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November 10th, 2010 at 9:27 AM | Pfft... (Score:1)
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Gimme a few hours and I'll figure out how M can become national champs this year.

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November 10th, 2010 at 9:55 AM | Hey if you want... (Score:1)
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...to be MIOMFOTI, you have to come with a Hard Edge.  I believe the challenge flag has been thrown.  Looking forward to reading your scenario. I assume it will have something to do with piles of cash being uncovered in one of Cecil Newton's churches, Boise State's blue camo field being ruled illegal, TCU losing to New Mexico State and Oregon losing its play call cards in a freak wind storm.

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November 10th, 2010 at 11:59 AM | No problem... (Score:1)
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There are currently two 9-win teams and two 10-win teams. TCU doesn't have a championship game to play, so their worst outcome is 10-2. Hello BCS championship, where they lose to 9-3 Oregon, so both finish 10-3 -- the game is full of mistakes and both teams look terrible.

Auburn wins the SEC West at 10-2, despite losing to Alabama, who finish 9-3. Auburn then loses to Florida in the SEC championship game to finish at 10-3. Florida wins the SEC East despite losing to both Appalachian State and Florida State, finishing at 9-4.

The other current 9-win team is Michigan State, which is covered by the OP. Boise State loses three of its last four games to finish at 9-3 and out of the running. Utah loses to Notre Dame. Stanford finishes at 9-3. None of the other current 8-win teams do terribly well, with none finishing at better than 9-3 or 9-4 (including conference championship game).

Michigan beats Stanford/Florida in convincing fashion while Denard Robinson has NCAA football's first 300-300 game. Auburn (10-4) and Alabama (9-4) both lose their bowl games, and Michigan State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Nebraska and Stanford/Florida all lose their bowl games or play terribly in beating one of the others.

The final AP poll has 10-3 Michigan at #1.

November 10th, 2010 at 12:24 PM | Wow, I'm a believer. (Score:1)
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So, we're in the Rose Bowl?  I need to buy some plane tickets!

November 10th, 2010 at 12:28 PM | Please direct... (Score:1)
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...your attention to this.  You sir, have outdone MGoUser Jeremy and now hold the title of MIOMFOTI.

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November 10th, 2010 at 1:47 PM | Iowa can beat Minnesota I think (Score:1)
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I think Iowa can beat Minnesota and it still works out.  Iowa would then have to lose to OSU who would have to pick up an extra loss vs. PSU who would have to pick up an extra loss vs. Indiana.

Might still be 1,000,000 to 1 though.  Yes, I'm saying there's a chance.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:09 PM | That's not out of the realm (Score:1)
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That's not out of the realm for possibility. Us winning out will be the least likely part, followed closely by Purdue beating MSU.

 

Edit: I missed Minn/NW pulling upsets.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:14 PM | Least likely (Score:1)
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I think the least likely occurence is Indiana beating Wisconsin.  Sure, Iowa nearly coughed it away against the Hoosiers, but I'd shocked if IU comes within 21 points of the Badgers.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:22 PM | Switch Indiana beating (Score:1)
Jeremy
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Switch Indiana beating Wisconsin with Northwestern beating Wisconsin and it still fits with the same 7 Co Champions... just Indiana doesn't go bowling.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:08 PM | 7 co-Big Ten Champions? (Score:1)
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7 co-Big Ten Champions? What's the point of even calling us champions? Maybe that could be the BCS's way of declaring a National Championship: win your BCS bowl, you're co-Champions...

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:10 PM | Wouldn't that be an epic (Score:1)
Jeremy
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Wouldn't that be an epic sendoff on the last season before the Big Ten has a championship game though?

November 10th, 2010 at 12:15 PM | It could still be an epic (Score:1)
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It could still be an epic sendoff if OSU and MSU win out because they didn't play each other, transitive property says that MSU > OSU, but BCS says OSU > MSU, so MSU gets screwed out of the Rose Bowl.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:12 PM | That's the way it used to work (Score:1)
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Kinda. But that would be a pretty great/funny way to end this era of Big Ten Football before the Championship Game era. Everyone is Champ! (Except for those poor few teams left out).

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:45 PM | Well, if this were to happen, (Score:1)
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Well, if this were to happen, we would likely be the highest ranked in the BCS poll for winning our last 4 games and would be the ones to go to the Rose Bowl. I don't know if that makes it worth it for you though.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:10 PM | ...so you're tellin me (Score:1)
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...so you're tellin me there's a chance! 

November 9th, 2010 at 11:10 PM | Are the Championship shirts (Score:1)
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In the MGoStore yet? I'm convinced, and ready to order!



Heh, nice work, I like the positivity.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:14 PM | if I look at the chart long enough (Score:1)
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does it make it more likely?

November 9th, 2010 at 11:16 PM | I have been thinking about this since Saturday night. (Score:1)
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I got a good feeling friends.

All in for some manball.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:19 PM | How I say Michigan wins Big Ten (Score:1)
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The Horseshit collapses this saturday on two despicable teams eliminating osu. Danny Hope surprises little brother by showing up with state troopers and msu's roster is decimated. 75% of Iowa's team stays home from eating bad corn and Minnesota squeaks it out 3-2.  Michigan wins Rose Bowl against TCU 76-74.

November 10th, 2010 at 1:07 PM | I completely agree with (Score:1)
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I completely agree with everything you said. Except I think we all know that with a month to prepare Michigan would win 116 - 114 in regulation.

November 9th, 2010 at 11:19 PM | There are easier, and more plausible, scenarios (Score:1)
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We'd have better luck relying on a plan involving an Acme Rocket, a pair of roller skates, a giant rubber band strung between trees as a sling shot, and a canyon wall painted to look like a train tunnel.

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November 10th, 2010 at 8:23 AM | I wouldn't bother (Score:1)
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November 10th, 2010 at 1:03 PM | Outstanding (Score:1)
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Outstanding.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:23 PM | I like it... (Score:1)
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That's my kind of optimism.  Like people have said above, three games jump out as highly unlikely.

 

1. Indiana over Wisconsin

2. Purdue over MSU.

3. Minnesota over Iowa.

 

One can dream...

November 9th, 2010 at 11:24 PM | This all sounds well and great (Score:1)
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This all sounds spectacular, but can we beat Purdue first? One game at a time with this team, one game at a time.

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November 9th, 2010 at 11:26 PM | If my friend, who is god (Score:1)
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If my friend, who is god awful at golf, can get a hole in one when the odds have to be astronomical we can pull this off.

November 10th, 2010 at 12:28 PM | Well? (Score:1)
tubauberalles
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Did your friend get a hole in one?  Don't leave us hanging like that!  For this scenario to really work, we can't even leave rhetorical questions unanswered, man!

November 9th, 2010 at 11:43 PM | Can we (Score:1)
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just beat Purdue first, please?

 

kthxbai

November 9th, 2010 at 11:47 PM | Unfortunately, there's a (Score:1)
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Unfortunately, there's a better chance of one of those Byes winning than of Minnesota beating Iowa.

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November 10th, 2010 at 9:40 AM | Hey, it could happen... (Score:1)
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November 10th, 2010 at 1:04 PM | Random Question (Score:1)
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